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Thanks for the links and feedback, we've been trawling through Facebook this morning and there's a bunch of local eco and community groups that we're going to get involved with once covid has calmed down a bit. Appreciate that there's still a lot of solid people involved in the Labour party and doing drat good work (I was being too judgy earlier), but signing up in the middle of a left-wing purge just sends all the wrong messages for us personally. Hopefully a decent alternative will emerge or the party will sort itself out. But until then maybe it's just:Pistol_Pete posted:No, I've genuinely sulked and done nothing.  Mebh posted:https://youtu.be/RP_Ycy9D3Hk
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From yospos: as a metaphor for EVs being a lovely solution to climate issues that actively harm real solutions it's a bit heavy-handed but it'll do
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goddamnedtwisto posted:From yospos: The gently caress was that idiot doing? Besides buying a Tesla I mean
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Aug 15, 2021 12:03
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a metaphor for EVs being a lovely solution to climate issues that actively harm real solutions it's a bit heavy-handed but it'll do lol what a load of bollocks. Why was someone filming this?
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Aug 15, 2021 12:23
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NotJustANumber99 posted:lol what a load of bollocks. Probably because the dude couldn't shut his door because Tesla cars are opened and closed electronically,filmed it because it looked funny and then caught him ramming into a bus. Everything gets filmed now.
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Pistol_Pete posted:No, I've genuinely sulked and done nothing. lol, sorry, just sounded uncannily like approximately half my posts in UKMT since Keith became leader. I definitely feel better since I abandoned hope in any Labour MPs, which might sound counterintuitive but it is freeing. For what its worth, if you have the time & energy, not really available to everyone I know, volunteering at a local food bank is...it's uplifting despite the fact that they are necessary is soul-crushing in itself. Or get involved with your work place union, it's a great chance to build connections & maybe even radicalise a couple people. The left in this country is almost entirely focused around parliamentary politics or covering up sexual abuse {for the Trots out there) but we'd do well to focus outside that imo. Which make no mistake, will be a long slog & probably not all that likely to succeed. But still think things like unions, where you can make an active & noticeable improvement in people's lives while also using the chance to propagandise an alternative to neoliberalism's road to feudalism. Gonzo McFee posted:Probably because the dude couldn't shut his door because Tesla cars are opened and closed electronically,filmed it because it looked funny and then caught him ramming into a bus. Hot take for that day but if you can't shut your car door don't drive the loving thing you selfish twat. Not you Gonzo, the Tesla owning oval office.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Probably because the dude couldn't shut his door because Tesla cars are opened and closed electronically,filmed it because it looked funny and then caught him ramming into a bus. He seems to manage to close it fine when it gets battered to gently caress.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:30
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He might have just broken the actuator by ramming it into the bus.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:32
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Everything Tesla makes is a buggy piece of crap that refuses to have a manual override because having a failsafe like that would imply that it's a buggy piece of crap. The really horrifying stories are the ones where they preinstalled DLC functions automatically charge your credit card tens of thousands for accidentally activating them, the emergency brakes randomly turn on while driving or worse when your battery overheats, the electronics fail and you're sat burning to death in a car because the only way your door opens is with the electronics.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:39
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OwlFancier posted:He might have just broken the actuator by ramming it into the bus. Possibly more than that. Actuator, hinges and if we’re *really* lucky a twisted frame.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:44
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Aug 15, 2021 12:47
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Tesla bugginess chat: the computer on the model S (I think, could be the 3) has a text log that dumps to internal storage because it's based on Linux and why not. Anyway. A surface mount memory chip was a few cents cheaper than an SD slot so these are non removable, but that's OK because to get at the thing you'd have to dismantle the center console anyway in all kinds of warranty voiding ways. Except they don't have it logging just essential events and diagnostics, it's the full spiel you get with Linux system console so the thing fills up and fills up and when it's full the car doesn't turn on, it just sits there with a black screen like a bricked phone. The repair for this involves getting Tesla to pick it up and swap out the motherboard which is a few thousand dollars of parts and labour. Aint planned obsolescence grand!
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I genuinely don't think you would get me in one of them, they seem like self propelled coffins.
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The fuel prices flashing in sequence at the end makes the video (even if it is just because of the camera shutter playing with the forecourt display mux).
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Aug 15, 2021 12:52
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It does put you in mind of a fruit machine when you hit the jackpot lol.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:56
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OwlFancier posted:I genuinely don't think you would get me in one of them, they seem like self propelled coffins. I suspect the car you drive is substantially less safe than a tesla.
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Aug 15, 2021 12:59
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Was the bus driver OK? He ducked, but it looks like he got showered in broken glass. New friends: volunteering is great but it's not as sociable as I'd expected. I used to run weekly meetings for one group I volunteered for in a very studenty area, and even the regular attendees weren't interested in putting down roots in the community because none of them expected to stay after graduation. Now I volunteer at the local foodbank and it's not uncommon for me to be working alone because there's a relatively small pool of volunteers and a fairly high demand. There is also the possibility that I am terrible at making friends.
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Isomermaid posted:Tesla bugginess chat: the computer on the model S (I think, could be the 3) has a text log that dumps to internal storage because it's based on Linux and why not. Anyway. A surface mount memory chip was a few cents cheaper than an SD slot so these are non removable, but that's OK because to get at the thing you'd have to dismantle the center console anyway in all kinds of warranty voiding ways. It was model S and X up to 2018. It didn't fill up and it didn't brick the car. As far as I know Tesla were forced to recall all the affected cars as the American safety people or whatever theyre called considered it a safety issue as it could cause you to lose camera views and things like the heating controls so you might not be able to clear frost off the windscreen or whatever. Car manufacturers are forever recalling vehicles because of dumb/lazy/cheap poo poo theyve done.
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Aug 15, 2021 13:08
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Gonzo McFee posted:or worse when your battery overheats, the electronics fail and you're sat burning to death in a car because the only way your door opens is with the electronics. E: Culturally I mean things like refusing to change or update rape /assault laws because then the stats go up. In game design, at least back in the PS2 era, Japanese games were notorious for making no concessions for failure - while western games were adding checkpoints or at least unlocking shortcuts as you go, Japanese games would make you redo the whole maze / jumping puzzle / level from the start because they absolutely refused to design systems to deal with failure. I don't know if I'm wording that right, but to me the reason Musk will not add manual door releases is because that would require admitting that the electronic systems fail randomly. So he'd rather pretend his cars are perfect while people burn to death. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Aug 15, 2021 |
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Aug 15, 2021 13:09
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I remember when he was advertising his amazing spaceship capsule that had no controls except a touchscreen and everyone was like "wow so brilliant" and I was like "lmao you're gonna try and fly a spaceship using a loving phone screen"
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Aug 15, 2021 13:14
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Lady Demelza posted:Was the bus driver OK? He ducked, but it looks like he got showered in broken glass. I think this probably depends on location. My town - population around 7-8000 - isn't 'studenty' and has quite a contingent of the sort of 'do goody well-meaning liberal (small l - sandal wearing, knit your own muesli) centrist' types in it. And it has to be said most of the volunteers are older - tending to be over 60 - and are very busily active in every sort of community group going on. Given the age demographic, the community side suffered quite a lot from the covid lockdowns. However, a number of local 'covid volunteer' groups with younger volunteers sprang up almost instantly to do stuff like get shopping, collect meds etc for the housebound, so younger people are there, just in normal times are busy going to work, raising families. And it's noticeable that once people started going back into workplaces, the number of people available to volunteer to go fetch dropped.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:A lot of jealous nonsense in here today. Lol of the tesla guy ramming a bus?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It reminds me of an anecdotal problem that historically crops up a lot in Japanese engineering, game design and Japanese culture, up to about ten or so years ago. Putting safety measures in place in case a thing fails requires acknowledging that the thing is flawed, and admitting that is seen as failure. This is complete bollocks.
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I don't think that has much to do with japanese vs not japanese as much as it is old vs new. Games from all over the world used to rely a lot on redoing things as a method of padding their length. If you're consciously trying to recreate the (S)NES era games you might end up doing that.
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There did used to be a lot of talk about medical disclosure in the context of medicine in Japan which often got framed as an individualism vs. paternalism matter but could just as much be framed as a personal autonomy vs. familial responsibility matter or a free market vs. national healthcare matter a personal interest vs. public health matter or the neverending medical ethics debate of what exactly counts as harm caused by a physician, rather than that Japan is unique in having unusual ideas about discussing medical problems.
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From my years in the rail industry, my memories of Japan are (i) if you commit suicide by jumping under a train, your family gets sent the bill (which can be absolutely humungous - whereas in the Uk, there's a bit of a tussle between whether responsibility is Network Rail or whichever train co was running the train - noone would dare suggest billing the family - and one or other sucks it up) and (ii) if there is a bolt failure in a fishplate, say, the Japanese go out with a complete set of neatly packaged new bolts and change all the bolts at that fishplate, not rummaging around in the box of bits in the back of a van and changing just the one. Of course, that was well over a decade ago now so things may have changed!
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I suspect the car you drive is substantially less safe than a tesla. The Elon defender has logged on
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Elon is handy very with the spaceships but appears to be shite at anything terrestrial... lithium batteries will only get you so far (pun intended). 
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I've had my car for nearly a decade now and it's not burst into flames yet, it's probably going to do that any minute annnnnnnnnnnnny minute now
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OwlFancier posted:I remember when he was advertising his amazing spaceship capsule that had no controls except a touchscreen and everyone was like "wow so brilliant" and I was like "lmao you're gonna try and fly a spaceship using a loving phone screen" In all fairness, (1) there were manual controls and (2) if you needed to take manual control of the spacecraft things are beyond hosed anyway and a phone screen is about as good as anything else. IIRC all spacecraft flight these days is computer controlled and all piloting is done on a keyboard 3 weeks beforehand. Real life space combat is going to be less star wars and more robot wars. Just Another Lurker posted:Elon is handy very with the spaceships but appears to be shite at anything terrestrial... lithium batteries will only get you so far (pun intended). According to the OSHA thread he isn't allowed anywhere near the space stuff for national security reasons and it shows.
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crispix posted:are there men on mumset? There are men on mumsnet. I occasionally browse their relationships subforum and it is....interesting the reaction men get posting about any given issue compared to women, sometimes.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Elon is handy very with the spaceships No he's not
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I bet I could build a rocket that explodes when you try to launch it. I'll do it for £50 plus parts and labour too. Way cheaper than muskie's offering.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I suspect the car you drive is substantially less safe than a tesla. My car which cost me £8k when I got it 5 years ago has the same 5/5 rating from the euro ncap as a tesla does. It has however never put me or anyone in danger due to a software miscalculation.
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If I inhereted an apartheid emerald mine I'd probably blow it all on weed and poo poo cars as well tbh.
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Failed Imagineer posted:No he's not Elon 'talks' a good spaceship?  Or is that Bezos? The Hyperloop does give me the giggles though, that's for sure.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Elon 'talks' a good spaceship? Tom Mueller is the actual rocket engineer at SpaceX, Musk just talks.
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Mega Comrade posted:My car which cost me £8k when I got it 5 years ago has the same 5/5 rating from the euro ncap as a tesla does. No, it doesn't. The euro ncap test in its current form only started in 2020, they havent even tested the model 3 against this standard, but if they did it would outperform your own vehicle. You can't conpare euro ncap tests between years, it says that on their site. They are kind of crap.
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