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Well, the restaurant I work at catching fire pushed me to apply for a program director position that I interviewed for and crushed. Signed the contract for the position today so now I can take a step back from the industry when the resto opens back up. Holy poo poo it feels good to have a job I went to school for, with salary, and benefits again.
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Kitchen goons, do your restaurants season steaks before cooking? I don’t eat steak often but I feel like every steak I’ve had from a steakhouse, and even a bistro I went to recently, wasn’t seasoned at all. I can’t taste salt, pepper, anything. Is this common?
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Aug 7, 2021 15:19
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FishBowlRobot posted:Kitchen goons, do your restaurants season steaks before cooking? I don’t eat steak often but I feel like every steak I’ve had from a steakhouse, and even a bistro I went to recently, wasn’t seasoned at all. I can’t taste salt, pepper, anything. Is this common? You have covid. Real answer, depends on the cut, but generally it is always seasoned heavily before searing. Most of the time, the seasoning isn't to add or impart flavor, but to draw out moisture or liquid on the outer layers. The flavor is supposed to come from the mallard reaction that happens to the outer layer of a meat which the seasoning is supposed to help with. Most places go season - sear - cook to temp - rest. When it rests it releases alot of liquid which gets used to make the gravy or sauce. At the point of rest most of the slat is usually washed off, so a good cook should season it again after cutting and plating or use the gravy/sauce. ughhhh fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 7, 2021 |
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Aug 7, 2021 15:35
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Maillard reaction. Mallard reaction is when you throw bread in a pond and the ducks go apeshit.
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Aug 7, 2021 16:47
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The Maillard reaction is when you put a steak on a pan approximately the temperature of the sun and you drop a pat of butter just after putting the steak down. The quantum foam merges with the foaming butter allowing for microscopic mallards to manifest on the surface of your steak, which as you know: Duck is delicious.
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Aug 7, 2021 17:04
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Aug 7, 2021 17:23
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FishBowlRobot posted:Kitchen goons, do your restaurants season steaks before cooking? I don’t eat steak often but I feel like every steak I’ve had from a steakhouse, and even a bistro I went to recently, wasn’t seasoned at all. I can’t taste salt, pepper, anything. Is this common? Last couple places I've worked don't season the steak and just put compound butter over it at the end. You do get a much cleaner sear that way versus seasoning just before it goes on the broiler. Ideal would be to season them ahead of time enough that the salt dissolves into the meat and promotes a better sear but these are just standard individual vacpac steaks.
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Aug 7, 2021 18:24
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Alkydere posted:So basically how poo poo works at Amazon? Almost the same except I'm not even bothering to *read* the labels most of the time. I had a dude get pissy at me because I didn't know what was in all the generic brown sub 5-lb produce boxes I was bringing him. They all look the same I'm not opening the boxes to know what the gently caress I'm bringing in - just that it goes here.
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Aug 7, 2021 22:41
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My favorite was always when they would stack heavy stuff on top of cases of eggs. After I refused the delivery the 4th or 5th time they finally learned how to not crush them.
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Aug 7, 2021 23:31
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Thumposaurus posted:My favorite was always when they would stack heavy stuff on top of cases of eggs. After I refused the delivery the 4th or 5th time they finally learned how to not crush them. At my last company everyone would bitch if that happened so eggs always go on top. Here I was told eggs go on bottom and "every chef worth their salt knows that" I don't know anymore. But on the pallets the eggs are always on the bottom of everything so nothing you can say to anyone will fix that at least.
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Aug 7, 2021 23:58
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Skwirl posted:How does Alexa even work if it's not listening constantly? I've literally worked on similar systems! There's a thing called a wake word detector running locally on the device constantly which is simple and dumb and ONLY knows how to recognise the word 'Alexa'. Once it hears that the device records until you've stopped talking and then uploads only the audio clip between the wake word and that point up to the cloud for analysis 
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FishBowlRobot posted:Kitchen goons, do your restaurants season steaks before cooking? I don’t eat steak often but I feel like every steak I’ve had from a steakhouse, and even a bistro I went to recently, wasn’t seasoned at all. I can’t taste salt, pepper, anything. Is this common? Just (lots of) salt and a bit of oil, the pepper will burn at the heat I want to cook a steak at so I would add it afterwards. There are a million more layers of complexity after this (like if I was doing a steak for myself at home I would change things because of my pans etc).
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Aug 8, 2021 00:33
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AdorableStar posted:Almost the same except I'm not even bothering to *read* the labels most of the time. I had a dude get pissy at me because I didn't know what was in all the generic brown sub 5-lb produce boxes I was bringing him. They all look the same I'm not opening the boxes to know what the gently caress I'm bringing in - just that it goes here. Oh no one reads anything at Amazon. It's an active struggle when training people to get them to read their screens or even look at the product when their stations make an angry beep instead of panicking and spending minutes to try to get me, who might be putting out 3 other fires at the time. "Whut happen? Machine angry at me!" "Well did you read the screen?" "...barcode not recognized?" "Correct, it's just a bad scan, try again." feedmegin posted:I've literally worked on similar systems! There's a thing called a wake word detector running locally on the device constantly which is simple and dumb and ONLY knows how to recognise the word 'Alexa'. Once it hears that the device records until you've stopped talking and then uploads only the audio clip between the wake word and that point up to the cloud for analysis Yup, having it online all the time is a waste of power and computing. There's a reason all voice commands to Alexa, Google, Siri, etc. all start with the product/service's name. It basically tells the product "Here's the start of a command." So they're not listening until you tell them to do so (or you play a commercial that tells them to listen). They do, however, report on literally every command you give them and their responses.
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See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmINGWsyWX0
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AdorableStar posted:Here I was told eggs go on bottom and "every chef worth their salt knows that" This is loving insane
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Aug 8, 2021 04:55
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pile of brown posted:This is loving insane If things are stacked and transported properly, eggs on the bottom makes sense: they're very hard to break, especially in the 8x30 cases, if the only force on them is straight down from the top. Also, you sure as poo poo don't want a case of eggs sitting on top of your flat of tomatoes, for instance. That said, "IF things are stacked and transported properly" is a very large IF.
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30 dozen egg boxes are real strong compared to 15 dozen but the amount of people that would rathet order 3x30dozen than 6x15 is small
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Aug 8, 2021 11:09
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I'm 32 and have worked in FBH since I was 16, excepting a four year period where I worked a manufacturing support position that gave me daily panic attacks, one (1) fake heart attack, and chronic heartburn. I hit my breaking point earlier this year. Making $30/hour average was great, but the company I work(ed) for decided that it is now the server's responsibility to somehow force any table paying via card to use a QR code that nobody actually wants to use along with other "we're all family but really gently caress you, it's all about profit" decisions. I'm now living off of savings, picking up occasional shifts, and trying to get my mental health to a point where living and dying aren't equally distasteful options. Tomorrow I have a virtual admissions overview with Per Scholas and hopefully find out if I get accepted to a program that will get me free training, certification, and job placement to get my foot in the door in IT. I'm really hoping this works out, because as much as I'm good with some aspects of serving, I am not looking forward to doing 12 hour doubles back-to-back in my loving 50s. Alkydere posted:Oh no one reads anything at Amazon. It's an active struggle when training people to get them to read their screens or even look at the product when their stations make an angry beep instead of panicking and spending minutes to try to get me, who might be putting out 3 other fires at the time. This was my life in manufacturing, except it was more of an intentional blame game. Literally any possible issue was the fault of my company's product, even when we could prove it wasn't.
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Aug 10, 2021 01:04
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Guys. Guys! GUYS! I got a new job. Not in the industry, one that will actually cater to my artistic and organizational skills (it's an architecture salvage place). And it has crazy things like, I dunno, air-conditioning and lunch breaks. Wild, right? On one hand, I want to give 2 weeks notice, because I am a responsible woman. On the other, I wanna flip a double deuce and say "later, poo poo lords, who just said we're not allowed to take uneaten line food home, it must be thrown out". Seriously, wtf? You're gonna pay people minimum wage and they can't take home the two cold pancakes that have been dying in a Cambro for hours? I will, however, miss highlights such as a dude ODing in our bathroom, coming to when FOH finally broke in and found him passed out, and proceeding to run half naked thru the kitchen before bolting out the side door. Whereupon my grill guys chased and ultimately tackled him in the parking lot until the cops/EMS showed up. Just another Saturday in the biscuit bidniz.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Guys. Guys! GUYS! Congratulations. A thousand times over, that's fantastic. Also you don't owe them poo poo. If you need the money over those two weeks (assuming you can't start your new gig earlier), then that's your call, but otherwise gently caress 'em. Very much, gently caress them. If you'd be better served taking two weeks to organize your life some, clear your head, and start the new job fresh, then do that.
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Aug 16, 2021 01:58
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Yeah gently caress em, just leave lol. Once you're out you will never want to go back. Congrats
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Congrats, fool. gently caress that place and their two-week notice, eat a pancake out of spite on your way out.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Guys. Guys! GUYS! Hell yeah! Congrats on the new gig JD!
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Aug 16, 2021 06:34
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Guys. Guys! GUYS! 1. Do you need their reference and expect a good one if you give two weeks? 2. Will suddenly leaving cause problems for any co-workers you care about? If the answer to both of these is "no" the choice is clear.
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Republicans posted:2. Will suddenly leaving cause problems for any co-workers you care about? That's the toughest part for me. Yet their struggle is caused by the bosses and Capital, not OP. It's hard af.
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Aug 16, 2021 07:36
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They'll understand. Just bail. You don't owe the company poo poo edit: this applies to all industries
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Yeah, I feel no obligation to the store, but I hate to leave my crew in a lurch. I'm thinking of splitting the difference and carrying out the week, since the schedule's made. After that, they're on their own. No one there's gonna fault me for dipping out; yesterday, our KM* was being such a c*** (and I don't use that word lightly) that four of us OGs were talking about just walking out and letting her handle the resulting mess. Today's my day off, so I slept in til 7:00 am. I woke up, checked the time, and thought "holy poo poo, I'll get to do this every day". *Reminder that this is the insane lesbian Trump supporter who mocked me for getting teary-eyed when Tony Bordain committed suicide, because he was a "coward" who "took the easy way out". Yeah, gently caress her, but my crew are good peeps.
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You're better than I am, if my boss was like that I'd have to restrain myself from yeeting an aerosol can into the deep fryer and kneecapping her next to it. Might be the hangover talking, or the 15+ yrs in the industry, or my burning hatred of those who perpetuate the abusive misery of this shitass industry upon us.
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You have to gage if the pain you cause to your linemates would be greater than the pleasure you'd get for loving the KM over
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This guy I used to work with told me when he quit working in the kitchen due to his manager just constantly berating him he threw a metal bowl full of flour back over his head. It smashed into the fluorescent lights which exploded, scattering flour and glass shards over the entire kitchen. So you could maybe do something like that
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:You have to gage if the pain you cause to your linemates would be greater than the pleasure you'd get for loving the KM over The more I think about it, the more it's coming down to what you just said. I confided in my current manager, and a former manager (who actually stepped down months ago because she couldn't take the stress of 3am text messages from the KM about stupid bullshit) that I was shopping around for a new job, asking if could I use them as references. They both pretty much said "yes, gonna suck to see you go, but I understand --- just use my cell number, not the store number". So references aren't an issue. Also, my current manager said "I'm telling you this not as your manager, but as a friend: if the new place asks when you can start, tell them you want to give the 2 week notice, but... KM has a history of just firing people when they put notice in. [NB: I have seen this myself, with 3 people just this summer alone] I don't wanna see you get shafted out of 2 weeks pay because she's got her panties in a twist that day and fires you before you start a new job." So odds are I might get "fired" right after handing in a written 2 week notice, anyways. And y'know what? I don't care. I'll sell some cool poo poo on SA-Mart to make up the difference. I've got a fresh batch of my habanero hot sauce ready to roll out, I make nifty art, I have a ridonkulous amount of comic books I want to sell. (PM me if any of these things interest you.) Thanks, Industry Thread, for helping me clear my head about this. I'm ready to go, MY PLANET NEEDS ME
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Just tell the new job that you put your 2 weeks notice in, and then work until you decide to quit lol and and then start the new job
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Because yeah you will absolutely get fired for giving notice. Your kitchen buddies are hosed regardless so peace out
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Vorenus posted:I'm 32 and have worked in FBH since I was 16, excepting a four year period where I worked a manufacturing support position that gave me daily panic attacks, one (1) fake heart attack, and chronic heartburn. I hit my breaking point earlier this year. Making $30/hour average was great, but the company I work(ed) for decided that it is now the server's responsibility to somehow force any table paying via card to use a QR code that nobody actually wants to use along with other "we're all family but really gently caress you, it's all about profit" decisions. I'm now living off of savings, picking up occasional shifts, and trying to get my mental health to a point where living and dying aren't equally distasteful options. I'm in a similar situation, good paying bar gig with benefits but overworked/understaffed and looking for an exit. Checked out per scholas, looks like a great deal but I don't think they offer anything in my city (Houston). Hope it works out for you though thetan_guy42 fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Schneider Inside Her posted:They'll understand. When I gave Sysco my two weeks almost all of management stopped talking to me lmbo
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thetan_guy42 posted:I'm in a similar situation, good paying bar gig with benefits but overworked/understaffed and looking for an exit. Checked out per scholas, looks like a great deal but I don't think they offer anything in my city (Houston). Hope it works out for you though AdorableStar posted:When I gave Sysco my two weeks almost all of management stopped talking to me lmbo I had the same thing when I left a "steakhouse" last year. Even better, on my last night one of them tried to guilt trip me for refusing to pick up another server's mess while she gabbed on her phone. He looked like he was going to explode when I told him that management expecting me to pick up after lazy coworkers* was the main reason I had offered notice in the first place. * I have to credit my current job on at least this, no one gets away with dicking off all night while other people earn their tips for them.
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Went to new place today to do all the paperwork and have them photocopy my license/SS card/ voided check (holy poo poo, direct deposit! Imagine that!). Only thing left is I gotta do a mouth swab drug test... whenever it's convenient. So no jazz cabbage for a couple days, "big whoop-dee-doo" as my gramma used to say. I'm in. My intention is to power thru this week so I don't gently caress over my "family", but yet... yeah if KM pisses me off, I'm walking. With pride and pleasure. And I'll re-use the line I said a couple days ago, right after KM went out the door to go harass our sister store, after chewing us out for something inconsequential: "HEY! Can somebody give me a hand here?!" [Kitchen looks up, startled, bc I never ask for help] "I only got two fingers to flip KM off, I could use some extra hands." [Kitchen enjoys some hearty laughter, yells "HEARD FINGERS" and we all took a moment to wag those middle fingers. I will miss that poo poo, no lie.]
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JacquelineDempsey posted:And I'll re-use the line I said a couple days ago, right after KM went out the door to go harass our sister store, after chewing us out for something inconsequential:
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Apparently at my company they're attempting to cut business/deliveries with smaller mom & pop accounts just to focus on big chains or big accounts. I don't know what's going on but this doesn't sound good. I heard an old driver the other day say that someone he delivered to for the past decade was told by her sales rep with 0-day notice that they're cutting off future orders from the company. 
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AdorableStar posted:Apparently at my company they're attempting to cut business/deliveries with smaller mom & pop accounts just to focus on big chains or big accounts. Driver shortage?
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