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Kosmo Gallion posted:How many Forbidden Door matches have there been? Difficult to say, especially as you have talent like Moxley who are signed to both companies, but if we're defining it strictly as a solely AEW contracted star fighting in a New Japan ring or vice versa: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Chris Jericho at Wrestle Kingdom 14 Kenny Omega & KENTA vs Jon Moxley & Lance Archer on Dynamite in February 2021 Jon Moxley vs Yuji Nagata on Dynamite in May 2021 Rocky Romero vs JD Drake on Dark in May 2021 Ren Narita vs Royce Isaacs on Dark in May 2021 Lance Archer vs Hikuleo on Dynamite in July 2021 Lance Archer vs Tanahashi on Resurgence in August 2021 And almost certainly some I'm missing.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:I guess KENTA crossing over to the AEW reality weakened the barriers and allowed his superior Jay White to hop over into the Impact universe to raise an army to wipe out the Elite. I'd be very down with Jay White, Chris Bey and GOD invading AEW as well.
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Did they ever explain why Vicky Guerrero just kind of faded out from Andrade's arc? Was it because she was the antithesis of Tranquillo?
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Scarf posted:Did they ever explain why Vicky Guerrero just kind of faded out from Andrade's arc? Was it because she was the antithesis of Tranquillo? She brokered the deal and got a finders fee. But even somebody as odious as Vickie couldn't deal with that shithead Andrade, so she let Chavo deal with him. Just like she did with Eddie.
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What would the wrestling landscape look like of Stephanie had just married Test (in storyline)?
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DMorbid posted:I dread the day AEW gets some lovely Finnish TV deal because I'm so used to watching the shows live and commercial-free. Fite's video and audio quality could be better and the live chat on the player page is so radioactive I adblocked their chat server, but not having to mess around with Do you have that chat server URL handy? Hate the chat.
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The Lord of Hats posted:What wrestler has been in the most promotions? I ask because as I watch various wrestling history youtube stuff, it feels like Chavo Guerrero has been loving everywhere, even in that brief TNA promotion in India. Is there someone who's bounced around even more than that? Has anyone said Colt Cabana? Dude has been in like, every indy ever. https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=994&page=20
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Excuse me, that's former NWA World's Heavyweight Champion Colt "Boom Boom" "Matt Classic" "Scotty Goldman" "Dark Order #8?" Cabana. (I just like reminding everyone Colt was the NWA champ)
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I always really loved the name Matt Classic
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titties posted:I always really loved the name Matt Classic The original promo for the gimmick makes me giggle every time. "And his devastating Full Body Slam!"
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Gaz-L posted:The original promo for the gimmick makes me giggle every time. "And his devastating Full Body Slam!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfd8jgQbf1Y
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Ah, WSX, whatever happened to that roster? Guys like Matt Sydal, Scorpio Sky and Jack Evans....
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Colt commits so hard to the gimmick, it's wonderful Officer Colt is also amusing
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I'd like to request a link to that god awful recent promo where the guy said something like "You're going to go home... and look in the mirror... and realize... that I don't like you." I forgot what thread it was in, but I wanted to show it to someone so they can laugh at it too. edit: thanks! sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Gaz-L posted:Excuse me, that's former NWA World's Heavyweight Champion Colt "Boom Boom" "Matt Classic" "Scotty Goldman" "Dark Order #8?" Cabana. Let's not forget Officer Colt Cabana.
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sticklefifer posted:I'd like to request a link to that god awful recent promo where the guy said something like "You're going to go home... and look in the mirror... and realize... that I don't like you." https://twitter.com/GolazoDan/status/1426708306240888834
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Colt is a wrestler who is very good at pretty much everything who I am happy to never actually see wrestle.
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Endless Mike posted:Colt is a wrestler who is very good at pretty much everything who I am happy to never actually see wrestle. i love seeing him wrestle and i miss the superman pin
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I'm sad we haven't had a Colt/Yano match for like 2 and a half years
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Manwithastick posted:Did Warrior University produce anybody of note? I'm not even sure they had any real classes
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When Colt was in OVW he drew a mustache on his Matt Classic mask and wrestled as Dan Severn. I really wish someone had taped that.
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Manwithastick posted:Did Warrior University produce anybody of note?
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What things, either at the time or subsequently btu changed, are events that were written off as, for lack of a better word, WrestleCrap but have retrospectively viewed as "that was actually great"? I was thinking about this because Hogan/Rodman v DDP/Malone was haaaaaaaated for so many years, but a lot of that seems to have been driven by Rodman's reputation in the 90s who would get booed during Bulls games. As the decades have passed and Rodman's become more well respected as an eccentric madman who may have been the greatest defender of all time the match seems gfine. Karl Malone's reputation on the other hand... man gently caress that scum. Just to pre-empt that this isn't just celebrity incidents, the David Arquette poo poo is still irredeemably bad no matter how much David Arquette has rehabbed himself and is undoubtedly awesome. He wasn't to blame but that incident is going to be death forever.
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JBLs character/title run comes to mind first. Maybe Stone Colds heel turn to a lesser extent.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:JBLs character/title run comes to mind first. Maybe Stone Colds heel turn to a lesser extent. I can't agree at all on JBL, to me it's just as bad as it ever was if not somehow worse. Fully agree with Austin though. It might have been terrible for business, but drat if he didn't do some of his best character work at that time, as well as have some of his best matches post-neck injury (though said matches were with the likes of Benoit and Angle, who I guess most people would struggle to have a bad match with in their primes). I feel like a lot of people have warmed up to Cena's run in light of WWE's past few years, though obviously this largely just applies to Internet fans.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I feel like a lot of people have warmed up to Cena's run in light of WWE's past few years, though obviously this largely just applies to Internet fans. I was thinking things much more severe than JBL/Cena which were just feuds rather than "this was a loving disaster" With that said I don't see Cena as rehabilitated, most good views of Cena apply pretty much effectively start with his early 2010s work and do not do much with looking fondly on the SuperCena era. It was only once his career wound down, his feud with CM Punk, and his US title open challenges that his respect started to increase. His SuperCena run has not aged well and is not looked at fondly, Edge was his biggest rival during that period and no one talks about Cena/Edge to the point its retroactively been made Edge/Orton. Umaga has aged terribly for being racist as gently caress. Oh and that time he cucked Zack Ryder.
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I don't think anyone looks back at it as "great", but the Fingerpoke of Doom was turned into a wrestlecrap moment once WCW started its decline as if it was the first snowball in an avalanche, but ratings analysis showed that it didn't have any real immediate effect. It was just a convenient milestone that the IWC latched onto.
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Lid posted:What things, either at the time or subsequently btu changed, are events that were written off as, for lack of a better word, WrestleCrap but have retrospectively viewed as "that was actually great"? Everyone still agrees the match is awful and Rodman was a zombie during it. People liked the build then and still do now.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:What would the wrestling landscape look like of Stephanie had just married Test (in storyline)?
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I don't know how to answer the question because, like, I'm always down to rewatch Halloween Havoc 1998, but nobody thinks it was anything but a disaster.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't know how to answer the question because, like, I'm always down to rewatch Halloween Havoc 1998, but nobody thinks it was anything but a disaster. The main event is obviously bad and there are other bad matches on there but it was regarded at the time as a pretty good card to watch because there are a few good undercard matches and DDP/Goldberg. If you got to watch the whole show that night. If not you probably did not like it until the next day, if ever!
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I can't agree at all on JBL, to me it's just as bad as it ever was if not somehow worse. Fully agree with Austin though. It might have been terrible for business, but drat if he didn't do some of his best character work at that time, as well as have some of his best matches post-neck injury (though said matches were with the likes of Benoit and Angle, who I guess most people would struggle to have a bad match with in their primes). Is there anything that specifically points to heel Austin being something that killed the business? Business didn't suffer much with his departure after '99, and arguably got better with The Rock as the top guy and a roster of up and coming talent. I'm curious if it was really Austin turning that turned away a significant part of the audience, or if it was really the weird chaos of the Invasion angle where you have a fake WCW staffed by big WWE names, a sudden wash of WCW talent that was getting simultaneously pushed and shat on.
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keithy george posted:Lead on question from this: A lot of it was the weird chaos of the Invasion, but live crowds weren't at all ready to boo Steve Austin when he turned so it never got the fan response anyone at WWE wanted. I think it was more of a creative failure than a financial one.
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Lid posted:What things, either at the time or subsequently btu changed, are events that were written off as, for lack of a better word, WrestleCrap but have retrospectively viewed as "that was actually great"? I recall even in the early years of Wrestlecrap, they noted that IRS was a beloved heel gimmick that was performed to perfection and was overall good, but it's still absolutely a Wrestlecrap gimmick no matter how you look at it.
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Gavok posted:I recall even in the early years of Wrestlecrap, they noted that IRS was a beloved heel gimmick that was performed to perfection and was overall good, but it's still absolutely a Wrestlecrap gimmick no matter how you look at it. That's pretty accurate. IRS is a good worker, he went balls deep to make the character work, but was still a wrestling accountant. Which is patently absurd.
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