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ram dass in hell posted:Also is the endgame for these people like a total cultural apartheid or what? White people only allowed to go to casserole cooking schools and so forth? I get that they're stupid as hell i just don't even understand what it is they think they're fighting for. The end game is that they get a job/position as the gatekeeper for that particular culture. You see, if you buy/learn/wear something from China, Brazil, etc. you are appropriating. But if you buy/learn/wear something from the Chinese-American, Brazilian-American, etc. you are supporting people of color. Edit:  I know a ton of American kids of one Brazilian parent that are like this. Grew up in the US, don't speak the language, maybe visited twice the country twice and hated it, hated whenever their parent made anything of Brazilian origin, anglicized their name to avoid being thought of as Brazilian. But then at some point between college and the start of their career, they discover that they are Brazilian. Not in the sense of "I want to learn more about my parent's culture and what I missed as a kid," but in the sense of "I want to use this to benefit me personally and to lecture other people about a culture that I learned about the same way they did, through tourism and wikipedia." They treat culture in an essentialist, almost genetic way that would make Richard Spenser proud. joepinetree has issued a correction as of 07:52 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Aug 18, 2021 07:29
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Acting like you were the aggrieved party if someone else defended themselves from you is also right out of the early 2010s Tumblr playbook. It's weird to see the whole cycle play out just as it used to a decade later I'm tempted to refer to DARVO, but they do that too, to the point where DARVO has become an example of itself. Some of these people begin with good intentions, but the only use they have for talk about racial segregation is figuring out who the bad guys are that we're all supposed to hate. Since she never learned the underlying moral reasoning, she fell rear end-backwards past all the warning signs in her own thoughts towards a blatantly racist conclusion. (She could also just be a psychopath doing this purely for the notoriety.) joepinetree posted:In Brazil for years it was very common to see street vendors at the beach sell knit bikinis. One day some Turkish woman visiting Brazil saw one, bought it, and copy righted it in the US. Once it became an international success other companies started trying to sell it too, but the Turkish woman sued them all. Eventually one of these sued companies found the original street vendor in Brazil and tried to say that she actually had the copy right, but American courts threw out the case because of the statute of limitations. So an old as hell type of hand made bikini from Brazil legally belongs to an American company founded by a Turkish lady. Jesus Christ.
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Aug 18, 2021 07:47
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sounds like all private property, including intellectual property, should be abolished. but i guess we can do segregation but woke instead so the right people can profit off their grandma's recipes
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Aug 18, 2021 07:52
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ram dass in hell posted:Also is the endgame for these people like a total cultural apartheid or what? White people only allowed to go to casserole cooking schools and so forth? I get that they're stupid as hell i just don't even understand what it is they think they're fighting for. it's pure aesthetics and entertainment for them with a dash of patriarchal chauvinism that they, the white "ally", must preserve and protect all POC cultures from being "tainted" and that they should only be observed and marveled at and never interacted with
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Aug 18, 2021 07:53
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*dusts off the apartheid South African plans for bantustans*
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1982 Subaru Brat posted:
The story is detailed here, but what it misses is that since then the Turkish lady won all the lawsuits and was granted copyright by arguing that the Brazilian street vendor took too long to file a claim of breach of copy right in the US. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/business/kiini-bikini-lawsuit-ipek-irgit-solange-ferrarini.html
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Aug 18, 2021 07:58
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Tom Guycot posted:Its about time someone put a stop to all the Japanese cultural appropriation of Portuguese food. When I was in Tokyo ate I at an Arabic restaurant owned by Japanese men. As I bit into the delicious naan bread, I shed a tear due to the raping of my culture.
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Aug 18, 2021 07:59
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How the gently caress does she have over 10,000 followers and only 2 likes and comments? I assume she went from having no followers to blowing up? joepinetree posted:I know a ton of American kids of one Brazilian parent that are like this. Grew up in the US, don't speak the language, maybe visited twice the country twice and hated it, hated whenever their parent made anything of Brazilian origin, anglicized their name to avoid being thought of as Brazilian. But then at some point between college and the start of their career, they discover that they are Brazilian. Not in the sense of "I want to learn more about my parent's culture and what I missed as a kid," but in the sense of "I want to use this to benefit me personally and to lecture other people about a culture that I learned about the same way they did, through tourism and wikipedia." They treat culture in an essentialist, almost genetic way that would make Richard Spenser proud. People tend to find their "identity" during their teens and early adult years.
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Aug 18, 2021 08:07
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loquacius posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/1427655383519162374?t=Nw1mwxkIlgo9jAxUbI9Zow&s=19 Lol
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Aug 18, 2021 08:16
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1427301872394715140 Lol
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Aug 18, 2021 08:20
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loquacius posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/1427655383519162374?t=Nw1mwxkIlgo9jAxUbI9Zow&s=19 Ok, but why does he say "shecession"?
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Aug 18, 2021 09:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/amore_orless/status/1427786346693681153?s=19 Vote!
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Aug 18, 2021 09:15
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:Ok, but why does he say "shecession"? because seashell sales at the seashore have shrunk
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Aug 18, 2021 09:21
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silicone thrills posted:lol just. what? always go for the gold
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Aug 18, 2021 09:52
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https://twitter.com/EverydayBastiat/status/1427799944849760260
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Aug 18, 2021 10:51
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People felt the same about Donald Trump. "Clinton is a weak centrist and will poison the people to the left for generations!" "Trump will be so bad as to turn the people to REAL CHANGE". They got Joe Biden (and just barely scraped him in at that) and the suffering and horror begotten by 5 years of Trump. There's a cost to the time you cede to the Tories, and I do not think that cost is worth the benefit of getting to try and roll 20s for a future great leader. Also - I'm not sure a lovely centrist government would *actually* poison the people to a future change anyways, so even the value you assign to the dice is a thing writ in water.
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Aug 18, 2021 10:58
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bedpan posted:People felt the same about Donald Trump. "Clinton is a weak centrist and will poison the people to the left for generations!" "Trump will be so bad as to turn the people to REAL CHANGE". every time i start to get mad i copy and paste the first sentence into the search bar it's like some sort of hosed up syq-induced self defense mechanism
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Aug 18, 2021 11:13
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:Ok, but why does he say "shecession"? The shecession is probably that women aren't founding as many businesses anymore or some other white-feminist handwringing
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Aug 18, 2021 12:34
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president xi please put this guy in front of the firing squad first
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Aug 18, 2021 12:37
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quote:I treat a fair number of people under "Obamacare" and the last two Democratic presidents withdrew from Iraq and Afghanistan respectively.
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Aug 18, 2021 12:47
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Before you post, I need to know how many racist bones you have in your body
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Aug 18, 2021 12:48
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Oneiros posted:sounds like all private property, including intellectual property, should be abolished. but i guess we can do segregation but woke instead so the right people can profit off their grandma's recipes I have to lol because, while there are absolutely generational recipes, at least in the US most of them can be tracked down to old cookbooks and recipes from the packaging. And all of them are "plagiarized" in one way or another.
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Aug 18, 2021 12:56
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i wonder how those people would react to fuschia dunlop
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Aug 18, 2021 13:02
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actually it’s probably exactly how they react to this noodle lady
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Aug 18, 2021 13:07
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No one tell this guy about our friends in South America.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:07
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With our powers and hatred of Jimmy Dore combined, we become.... SAM SEDER
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Aug 18, 2021 13:10
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Socialist countries like China and Venezuela are fascist empires Far-right kleptocracies like Brazil or Israel or the Philippines are our allies
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Aug 18, 2021 13:11
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loquacius posted:Socialist countries like China and Venezuela are fascist empires agreed op
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Aug 18, 2021 13:11
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Someone on my FB feed who considers herself an expert in politics is dismayed at the idea that the government lied about the situation in Afghanistan. She acknowledges the existence of the Afghanistan papers but doesn't process it. Doesn't understand it... I'm not sure what. The "crack ping" thing gets thrown around a lot but this is a big one for me. She considers herself an expert in politics and current events. Holy poo poo.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:16
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Greg Legg posted:Someone on my FB feed who considers herself an expert in politics is dismayed at the idea that the government lied about the situation in Afghanistan. She acknowledges the existence of the Afghanistan papers but doesn't process it. Doesn't understand it... I'm not sure what. The "crack ping" thing gets thrown around a lot but this is a big one for me. She considers herself an expert in politics and current events. Holy poo poo. I remember when the wikileaks videos of civilians getting droned by americans dropped in 2010 and people were saying it changes everything because seeing it up front is different from just hearing about it. then most people just forgot about it.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:18
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Being a self proclaimed expert on current events and politics basically means turning off your brain and uncritically accepting whatever the most esteemed media outlets say is true (before they issue their corrections months later when no one is paying attention anymore).
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Aug 18, 2021 13:22
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ram dass in hell posted:Also is the endgame for these people like a total cultural apartheid or what? White people only allowed to go to casserole cooking schools and so forth? I get that they're stupid as hell i just don't even understand what it is they think they're fighting for. It's evil to have whites move to the suburbs by themselves and it's also evil for whites to move in next to minorities and gentrify the area Similarly in my school district, it went from being evil to against school busing, to now it's evil to be in favor of school busing
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Aug 18, 2021 13:27
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Thinking about that story about Russia offering bounties on American troops in Afghanistan and all usual liberal outlets were frothing in rage that Trump wasn't doing anything about it. And then later it turned out that the US intelligence agencies outright made that poo poo up lol
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Aug 18, 2021 13:28
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I Am Not A Dupe (Leech/F-/Outsider) The American Failsafe Principles.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:28
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yellowcar posted:heated empire moment
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Eggplant Squire posted:Being anself proclaimed expert on current events and politics basically means turning off your brain and uncritically accepting whatever the most esteemed media outlets say is true (before they issue their corrections months later when no one is paying attention anymore). That is usually the MO of the average person who thinks they are paying attention. Most people consider themselves extremely well-informed if they have a bookmark to the New York Times homepage that they check every other day. The self-proclaimed experts of politics are usually the Ron Paul fanatics, the girl who wrote an essay on why white people can't make noodles, the pseudo socialist types who are terminally online, or the guy who has an internship for some congressman and posts about all the amazing insider knowledge he has from folding envelopes.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:30
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:That is usually the MO of the average person who thinks they are paying attention. Most people consider themselves extremely well-informed if they have a bookmark to the New York Times homepage that they check every other day. Raenir Salazar and Discendio Vox aren't psuedo-socialists they're tedious wikipedia freaks, one of whom thinks anime is real.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:32
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Gulping Again posted:Raenir Salazar and Discendio Vox aren't psuedo-socialists they're tedious wikipedia freaks I think they fall into the latter category. You don't have to literally have an internship to be that type of person.
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