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i think this article calling out desantis over shilling regeneron was already posted DeSantis top donor invests in COVID drug governor promotes this is from the author, afterward https://twitter.com/bsfarrington/status/1427882742163906563
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Shifty Pony posted:aren't they still being pedantic morons i just read the name nate silver, the answer is “yes”
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Stevie Lee posted:lmmfao Which everyone fuckin figured was going to happen to begin with. In a sane country the CDC would have told everyone to maintain pandemic hygiene despite vaccination status while they monitored the early vaccinated population but we just couldn't do that. lol
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super sweet best pal posted:I think this thread and the GBS thread should swap subforums, see if it breaks anyone's brain. It would be interesting to see how this thread would respond to "just had mimosas with friends and only hacked up part of my lungs on the waiter but its cool, life is to be lived 😎 "
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Nocturtle posted:Interesting post from Carl Bergstrom about the Israeli observations of decreased efficacy: friend sent me this blog post yesterday and these were my takes on it: the simpson's paradox thing is real and convinces me that the 67% is misleadingly low. he gets the following table when stratifying by age:  so the Israeli vaccine is (currently) highly effective in the young population with a dropoff in efficacy for the older population these numbers don't look great to me! The author concludes "see! it's not 67%, it's highly effective!" without comparing to any initial efficacy. Looking at a Lancet study on the Israeli vaccine: https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(21)00947-8 ...the original efficacy against severe disease is like 98% in every age group. Age didn't seem to have much of an impact on the efficacy here! So why does age now seem to matter? Seems possible to me that the author of that blogpost is making the same mistake he's complaining about in failing to stratify your data on a relevant variable.. specifically, older people got the vaccine, on average, a longer time ago! So seeing lower efficacy in older populations (who got vaccinated earlier) is entirely consistent with a waning efficacy, especially when there was no significant difference in age groups initially This is also pretty consistent with these slides that Eric Crakl-Ping shared a while ago: https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/reports/vaccine-efficacy-safety-follow-up-committee/he/files_publications_corona_two-dose-vaccination-data.pdf This doesn't tell you about severe cases, just breakthrough cases in general (which the blog post conveniently shrugs off), but check out slide 6. Breakthroughs are as high or higher in the young population, it just depends on when you got the shot. Wouldn't surprise me if severe cases are a similar story.
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sonatinas posted:first year of daycare sucks for parents from all the poo poo you get from the kid but COVID respects that my brother put his kid in daycare knowing they’d get covid, and sure enough they all got their wish within a little over a month and a half!
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do like half of us gonna get boosters while new first shot stats barely move my spouses work is making it mandatory after FDA approval. that might move the needle a little. not sure about 5-11 year olds, probably less than 12-18
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Rubby posted:ONLY YOUR RESPIRATOR TRUST 
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The co-owner of the Westside Journal weekly newspaper used his voice as a columnist to widely share his doubts about the vaccine and his mistrust of the health experts in the U.S. who have been urging everyone to get it. “I do not trust the Federal Government,” West wrote recently. “I do not trust Dr. Fauci, I do not trust the medical profession, nor the pharmaceutical giants.” But something happened to change his mind: Two of West’s close friends became ill with the virus, and a third died. Rattled and stressed, he prayed for guidance. Then, when his mother and another relative both urged him to get vaccinated, he took it as a sign from God. West drove to the Winn Dixie supermarket and rolled up his sleeve for the first of two injections of the Moderna vaccine. “All of a sudden, it hit real close to home,” he said.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Which everyone fuckin figured was going to happen to begin with. In a sane country the CDC would have told everyone to maintain pandemic hygiene despite vaccination status while they monitored the early vaccinated population but we just couldn't do that. lol the US response has been a pandemic version of the marshmallow experiment, except the US is so excited to get just one marshmallow it knocks it off the table and bats it around on the floor like a cat.
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1428005614706479105?s=20 I assume all Americans means all 12+ right?
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1428005614706479105?s=20 uh “all” gonna need clarification here
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Lovelyn posted:Horrifying work story about proning: uh isn't this malpractice
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Stereotype posted:do you people have any idea how much money the lockdowns cost? or how many brunches were missed? those brunches that no one will ever get back, they're gone forever now. not to mention all the time children had to spend with their parents. it probably scarred those kids for life and will be a constant debilitating condition for their entire lives. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Brunches uneaten at the deli on 5th and Main. I watched owners wailing in the dark near thier shuttered Applebee's. All those brunches will be lost in time like mimosas left out in the rain. Time to open Biden.
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it’s cool kids are loving invisible
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Lovelyn posted:Horrifying work story about proning: Clear evidence the vaccine doesn't work. It can't even protect yo dick. Open Biden!
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Brunches uneaten at the deli on 5th and Main. I watched owners wailing in the dark near thier shuttered Applebee's. All those brunches will be lost in time like mimosas left out in the rain. Time to open Biden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bayBO1MRs
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Someone dying in their car in the parking lot of the hospital, listening to Dark Side of the Moon on repeat.
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Joementum posted:nb: you're also only eligible eight months after your second dose I'm not waiting until December for my third dose, I work in a restaurant
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Lovelyn posted:Horrifying work story about proning:
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Lovelyn posted:Horrifying work story about proning: Let me choke to death if this happens to me.
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Nocturtle posted:Interesting post from Carl Bergstrom about the Israeli observations of decreased efficacy: This is great poo poo. As long as doses don't get backlogged again (doubtful) I think it means postponing a booster right now and waiting til closer to standard flu shot times (so oct-nov depending on climate) is the right move
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it's pretty clear there's no medical evidence for that eight month delay, they just put that in there for distributional or political reasons
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slippery doc posted:friend sent me this blog post yesterday and these were my takes on it: For sure, just as age is a relevant factor so is time since vaccination. Deducing effectiveness from this kind of data generally seems difficult. However the decrease in effectiveness and breakthrough rate increase within a given age group is much clearer. Guess the CDC agrees now that they finally admitted boosters were required. I thought the original post was interesting in part because it's such a nice illustration of Simpson's paradox. Like, how can the effectiveness be greater than 85% in each subgroup by 67% overall? It's counter-intuitive. edit: mastershakeman posted:This is great poo poo. As long as doses don't get backlogged again (doubtful) I think it means postponing a booster right now and waiting til closer to standard flu shot times (so oct-nov depending on climate) is the right move Ahaha now I regret posting it.
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mastershakeman posted:This is great poo poo. As long as doses don't get backlogged again (doubtful) I think it means postponing a booster right now and waiting til closer to standard flu shot times (so oct-nov depending on climate) is the right move There won't be anymore manufacturing backlog. Anecdotally, Pfizer is fully planning on moving into bi-annual strain boosters for at least the next couple of years. The fact that the FDA is willing to budge so easily on boosters makes me think that we're gonna new way of doing things while COVID is doing its thing. Endemic COVID here we come awoo *wolf howl*
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Gonna arms race against COVID and hope we don't end up with a variant that causes everyone to poo poo themselves to death
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UFOTacoMan posted:Hell yeah, just walked by a dude in the office who was wearing a Sturgis shirt. My good man, don't leave that workplace aggression unchecked. You need a Respirator shirt to answer back! 
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Mr Hootington posted:Let me choke to death if this happens to me. there's no value in your nuts anyway dude, do like elsa and let'em go. local military hospital banned me from FB posting because I asked if their ICU was in overflow like all the other hospitals in the area 
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Platystemon posted:She was in her ninth day of symptoms on the twenty‐first and brunched on the twenty‐fifth Zmej posted:great things happening in the gbs thread:
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gently caress, just found out one of our vent patients is actually a breakthrough case. Open Biden!!
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External Organs posted:gently caress, just found out one of our vent patients is actually a breakthrough case. Open Biden!! curious, did they have any pre-existing conditions?
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Stevie Lee posted:lmmfao “Look, we can’t tell them to get safe and effective medicine that costs the government almost twenty dollars till enough of them drop dead to give us ninety-five percent confidence that it’s absolutely mecessary.”
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Zmej posted:lol reposting her responses because they were pure gold (I think people found some more great quotes in the old thread after this one): You missed the second half of this quote quote:There's no real way to know but I'm following the CDC guidance and yes I know how loving flawed that is. But I also think it's mildly insane to expect me to sit in the house for the 90 days it could take for me to test negative when I've been vaccinated and wearing a mask except for when I'm eating. It's a calculated risk given what (little, admittedly) we know about viruses and how/when they are likely to spread. I've been assured by medical professionals I know that the likelihood of spreading this at this point is low to nothing, especially if those around me are vaccinated. Again, imperfect data, but I'm doing what is, to the best of our knowledge, what is appropriate to keep myself and others safe.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:there's no value in your nuts anyway dude, do like elsa and let'em go. Reassuring
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