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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...and-border-armyquote:Speaking to media on Thursday afternoon, the prime minister Jacinda Ardern said genome sequencing has linked the cluster to a returnee, a New Zealander who returned to the country from NSW on a managed red-zone flight tested positive for the Delta variant on 7 August and was moved to quarantine on the 8th. After becoming unwell, they were transferred to Middlemore Hospital, on 16 August. sounds like everyone did everything right but delta hosed them anyway because it's delta
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1428013287791284229?s=20 This exact thing is happening in my friends group with a guy who is big mad about having to wear masks again. He used the lollapalooza 'only 200 cases!' thing to justify that breakthrough cases are super rare. People who don't read this thread still think breakthrough cases are a thing that does not happen.
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Folks. Has anyone asked if the virus could wear a mask instead of us??!
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mod sassinator posted:fauci flapping his jaws about boosters: https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr-fauci-on-effectiveness-of-vaccine-booster-118989381977 it owns that no more than a month ago Fauci and the CDC were saying a booster shot wasn't necessary ~right now~ https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...doses-right-now I don't know if it's damage control or if they're just this loving dumb
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euphronius posted:90 days seems like a lot less than 6 months I admittedly have no way to find this but way, way back in the original thread some goon postulated that the vaccine could require redosing every couple months like some Deus Ex ambrosia poo poo welp
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mod sassinator posted:fauci flapping his jaws about boosters: https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr-fauci-on-effectiveness-of-vaccine-booster-118989381977 These loving people and their dead-rear end certain-sounding voices as they say these things based on loving nothing.
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mod sassinator posted:fauci flapping his jaws about boosters: https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr-fauci-on-effectiveness-of-vaccine-booster-118989381977 We will 100% need a fourth shot but it will be for some new mutant strain of COVID and it will take way too long to test and approve and manufacture What I’m saying is be low key prepared for another pandemic next year
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nate silverishly: well you see the deep south's case load hasn't increased beyond its currently unsustainable rate, so we should be good. stop fearmongering.
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mod sassinator posted:fauci flapping his jaws about boosters: https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr-fauci-on-effectiveness-of-vaccine-booster-118989381977 Well, of course we don't need a fourth right now. There hasn't been enough time after the third yet for the effects to wane.
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Kreeblah posted:Well, of course we don't need a fourth right now. There hasn't been enough time after the third yet for the effects to wane. why do you hate science? we need studies, not induction. I am very smart.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I've been vaccinated fully since June and I've yet to put myself in a situation where anyone is obligated or required to verify my vaccination status. Closest I've come is I verified with my employer. But then they stopped requiring masks so I have only gone in a total of one time for a half hour because I needed IT to replace some hardware in my laptop and have stuck straight with work from home. They also just recently updated thier guidance for quarantining after exposure to say that vaccinated people only have to stay home if they have symptoms. They did that this week after all the news about breakthroughs.
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mod sassinator posted:fauci flapping his jaws about boosters: https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr-fauci-on-effectiveness-of-vaccine-booster-118989381977 Well, now I know to pencil in a fourth shot.
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SKULL.GIF posted:remembering around this time last year when we were discussing whether or not REINFECTION?! could even happen Yes I do remember that and I also remember the same loving idiots being on the wrong side of that too. CSPAM was right.
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Louisgod posted:it owns that no more than a month ago Fauci and the CDC were saying a booster shot wasn't necessary ~right now~ worse, it's their explicit plan lol.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Yes I do remember that and I also remember the same loving idiots being on the wrong side of that too. CSPAM was right. Where are all those shitcocks now?
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mod sassinator posted:haha holy poo poo. if sydney takes down new zealand.... LMAO NZ lockdown energy is extremely strong though, so I think we'll be fine again in another month or so. The real issue is that delta seems to be so much more infectious that leakage from the border is practically inevitable, and every time you find a single community case you HAVE to lock down the entire country immediately to keep it under control. I'm not sure what the end-game here is really? Doesn't seem like vaxxx will save us, doesn't seem like aggressive whole-country lockdowns will either as long as we're allowing people to come back from red-zone countries. Pinging in and out of lockdowns every few months is still a shitload better than the alternative though I guess so better than nothing.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Yes I do remember that and I also remember the same loving idiots being on the wrong side of that too. CSPAM was right. the maladaptive response is a heck of a thing
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Lacrosse posted:lol at all the goons trying to lie about being immunocompromised and getting turned away when all they had to lie about was being there for their first dose my second second dose appointment is due in a few days and I'm wondering if I should get it or not I guess not though because super covid is around the corner
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ok I've seen enough; I'm calling it Covid seems bad
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External Organs posted:Folks. vaccines are likely little tiny masks for your cells
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Blackhawk posted:NZ lockdown energy is extremely strong though, so I think we'll be fine again in another month or so. The real issue is that delta seems to be so much more infectious that leakage from the border is practically inevitable, and every time you find a single community case you HAVE to lock down the entire country immediately to keep it under control. I'm not sure what the end-game here is really? Doesn't seem like vaxxx will save us, doesn't seem like aggressive whole-country lockdowns will either as long as we're allowing people to come back from red-zone countries. Pinging in and out of lockdowns every few months is still a shitload better than the alternative though I guess so better than nothing. yeah they're just going to have to get REALLY strict about border quarantines. no more, oh you came in on a private boat or jet? we don't need to test you.... no more jamming everyone in the same hotel without also building it into a freaking negative air pressure ward. china, as always, has had the right idea here. special quarantine hotels where you feel like you're in that scene from ET when you enter them. no exceptions at all, everyone quarantined for 14 days with proof of multiple PCR tests to get out. china is beating back its delta surge right now. from 150+ cases a day to 40s and dropping. it just takes targeted lockdown, tracing, etc. when it's still in the low 100s of cases a day phase.
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mycomancy posted:Where are all those shitcocks now? Applebee's.
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Steve Yun posted:Just be careful with that FP article, it makes some misquotes from the Pfizer study like suggesting Pfizer did 8 months of data when it was 6, and saying antibody levels went down to zero when the study was checking overall efficacy and not antibody levels and says nothing about antibodies being completely gone at 8 months Pfizer did compile 8 months of data against Wild Type and Beta:
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McNugget Buddy posted:Pfizer did compile 8 months of data against Wild Type and Beta: thanks for posting those slides. I've convinced around 10 of my friends and family to get their third slut syrup by sending those and a short explanation
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McNugget Buddy posted:Bad news about nasal vaccines: just lol if u havent made ur own nasal vaccine: https://radvac.org/
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McNugget Buddy posted:Pfizer did compile 8 months of data against Wild Type and Beta: here's the reason they care about any of this 
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lol gently caress it this one's for the night crew https://i.imgur.com/zuOUwnQ.mp4
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Casey Finnigan posted:I'm gonna learn mandarin and just loving move they don't want you
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I changed my legal name since getting my first two doses done. Maybe I should just do another 2 in my new name so I have a clean card. Then get my 'booster.'
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McNugget Buddy posted:Pfizer did compile 8 months of data against Wild Type and Beta: oh whoops! thanks for the correction edit: okay it looks like it was from a different study than the one they linked in the FP article Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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why contain it
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Rubby posted:lol gently caress it this one's for the night crew incredible as always
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SKULL.GIF posted:they don't want you lol you can't even go to china to teach english anymore
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Casey Finnigan posted:what is the american endgame here? just keep things open until every single hospital in the nation is overwhelmed? and then what? What the gently caress are we doing The endgame is that everyone gets delta and population immunity is built-up enough that the new variants that will sweep through every year or so don't totally overwhelm the hospitals. Those with the means will get regular boosters, everyone else rolls the dice each time. Society just adapts and accepts the higher death rate. Everyone will have at least one family member with permanent damage. It will be unusual to meet someone who isn't rich over the age of 70.
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Shiroc posted:I changed my legal name since getting my first two doses done. Maybe I should just do another 2 in my new name so I have a clean card. Then get my 'booster.' ooh. we've got the possibility of a fiver here.
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the US is going to surpass peak hospitalizations. I think most people don't realize how baked in that is at this point we could literally vaccinate every single person in the US tomorrow and implement weld-your-door style lock downs indefinitely, and we're still going to slide right past the record and keep going
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gonna be alot more breakthrough deaths when people can’t get in the ER to get some supplemental oxygen and stabilize. well and ya know everything else you would ever need to go to the ER for… I read a study that high dose antibiotics may be just as effective for treating an appendicitis instead of surgery. Just some food for thought. Hope ya’ll got good gall bladders, etc though.
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What do you guys think real cases are at Like last fall.testinf was pretty good so those 200k days were probably true 250k? And the early spring of 2020 were only like 30k but really 300k daily when you looked at deaths after the fact ? So now it's probably in between that, and what, these 150k are really 450k?
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