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Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

Tinker offlane/support needs level 12 fast. Level 1 Rearm suuuuuucks.

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Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
pls stop playing whack poo poo as support. Go the little magicky guys and girls, stop being cute

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Blaise330 posted:

pls stop playing whack poo poo as support. Go the little magicky guys and girls, stop being cute

Who hurt you? POS 5 Gyro?

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

I see a large amount of Pos4/5 sniper and all they do is get aghs and shoot a person one time and then instantly die and I don't know how you could even have fun doing that build. Like I would much rather you just go all-in and run him mid and get the clicking items. If I'm playing support I'm not picking a hero unless I know I'm gonna get six million kills/assists

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
Pos4 Huskar is super fuckin fun because you never need to go back to base and you do enough dot that you rack up kills and assists doing basic harass. People who complain about off meta pos4 picks are lame.

That being said, a pos5 that cant heal or save your carry is a gently caress.

Mortimer Knag
Nov 23, 2007

Sampatrick posted:

Also, Lycan is broken but you should probably buy other items after getting HotD and Vlads instead of instantly combining them

But that early ancient creep on lycan is so strong early. Why shouldn't you combine them?

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

The Lycan in the BTS tournament yesterday had Overlord, Wand, Quelling, Atos and two empty slots

granted he lost but he was owning really hard until PA came online

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
well, helm of the overlord sure is good

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
Guys I think I was wrong about the helm of the Overlord rush xd

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 14 days!
Beast master and furion rushing it are also pretty strong, Zoo Dota is back

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Liquid and SG throwing down

https://twitch.tv/esl_dota2

lol

https://clips.twitch.tv/InterestingPoorCasetteBIRB-4NgT5Qg-bc6gi1vV

1 minute later helm of the overlord lycan is online with chen NVM

EorayMel fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Aug 21, 2021

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 14 days!
It is very funny when liquid loses

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Lol liquid

Also the new windranger shard spell is really good

https://clips.twitch.tv/GrossCautiousFriesVoHiYo-QQwqCharw_t0Ln75

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
Yeah, that’s a really cool ability

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

The lycan shard is like, really, REALLY strong but idk if people will bother with it much. It basically auto-pushes out your lanes because every wave spawns with a super catapult that is targeted last

E: lycan / brood together would be an absolute nightmare, just constant pressure

Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Aug 21, 2021

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

Grapplejack posted:

The lycan shard is like, really, REALLY strong but idk if people will bother with it much. It basically auto-pushes out your lanes because every wave spawns with a super catapult that is targeted last

E: lycan / brood together would be an absolute nightmare, just constant pressure

Yeah I think it's pretty busted. You basically always have howl on all the waves someone from the enemy team isn't actively pushing against, and cripple on towers makes them take a lot more damage.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

These drafts own LFG T1

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
We got a mid kotl and sideline QOP
https://twitch.tv/esl_dota2

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


a very strong old man owning

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
Uh this seems pretty broken

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

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Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Level 15 at 13 minutes sure is a thing.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

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RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Im not even watching but I'm guessing he did something along the lines of 3-4 Nulls and then Aghs, which was already insanely strong last patch if you were playing 5 so yeah I'm not surprised

BioThermo
Feb 18, 2014

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Im not even watching but I'm guessing he did something along the lines of 3-4 Nulls and then Aghs, which was already insanely strong last patch if you were playing 5 so yeah I'm not surprised

Nah, it's a Dagon rush with solar bind.

Reminds me of getting owned in a pub ages past with a 2-stack that went Chen/Bloodseeker and rushed old Bloodrage + Pentitence + Dagons and just ran around the map murking everybody.

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Im not even watching but I'm guessing he did something along the lines of 3-4 Nulls and then Aghs, which was already insanely strong last patch if you were playing 5 so yeah I'm not surprised

wrong. boots of travel into dagon 3 into blink

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
He did build three nulls, though

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

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EorayMel
May 30, 2015

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KOTL mid meta represent

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rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
KEEPER OF THE LIGHT
Base Armor increased by 1
ILLUMINATE
Channel Time rescaled from 2/2.7/3.4/4.1s to 3s
CHAKRA MAGIC
Cooldown reduced from 20/18/16/14 to 18/16/14/12

The buffs are good, but yeah, looks like the basic idea here of global presence from innate speed and BoTs plus the low-cooldown nukes could have worked just as well last patch.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
How fast will people be begging there wasn't a new patch and wished to keep dealing with carry axe/wyvern instead of carry KOTL

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

rjmccall posted:

KEEPER OF THE LIGHT
Base Armor increased by 1
ILLUMINATE
Channel Time rescaled from 2/2.7/3.4/4.1s to 3s
CHAKRA MAGIC
Cooldown reduced from 20/18/16/14 to 18/16/14/12

The buffs are good, but yeah, looks like the basic idea here of global presence from innate speed and BoTs plus the low-cooldown nukes could have worked just as well last patch.

You're underestimating how much the channel time change makes the illuminates more reliable when the target knows it's coming.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

that was an excellent game

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

EorayMel posted:

How fast will people be begging there wasn't a new patch and wished to keep dealing with carry axe/wyvern instead of carry KOTL

No I'll take broken KOTL and Clinkz as a change of pace for now.

We'll get a few letter patches addressing things like this over the next few weeks I'm sure.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Game 2, T1 picks kotl first away from tundra

:thunk:

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I still can't believe we got robbed of a tundra TI by those OG losers

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

It amazes me how esl has this fantastic production but BTS still looks and runs like it's run by a pair of guys in their moms basement

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Tundra looking really good, real bummer they didn't make TI

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


Grapplejack posted:

It amazes me how esl has this fantastic production but BTS still looks and runs like it's run by a pair of guys in their moms basement

i wonder how much of it is explained by esl being based in europe in a cheaper country than the us. better venues going to cost a lot less at least

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
new patch dota owns

Nine invented the mid Wyvern too. what a player.

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