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Gio posted:https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1337146274655694850?s=21 Has the prediction vibe of past Nate Soothsayer analysis like here's 101 reasons why Trump won't win the GOP primary...
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Forseti posted:This is me (usually also caffeine) but my resting heart rate is still usually around 80. Sometimes it can be around 90 though. But my resting heart rate always stayed pretty high despite regular exercise before I got diagnosed as an adult and started adderall too. My doctor doesn't seem particularly concerned? I dunno, my heart rate also averages quite high during long exercise, like ~175 maintained basically indefinitely is comfortable. Uhh, your doctor isn't concerned about you doing this? I''m just a fitness hobbyist but that seems really high to be at for a whole workout. I was told that the rule of thumb for max safe heart rate was 220 minus your age so 180 for a 40yr old. And adding stimulants on top of that, ooph, i'm getting heart palpitations just thinking of that. This is the worst time to need emergency medical help.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:34
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i am harry posted:get them the gently caress vaccinated The media has agreed that vaccine shaming shouldn't apply to 1/10th of the population of the USA and then shrugs
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Aug 22, 2021 15:34
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Getting the 3rd shot is fun and it also Triggers Fauci "Waiting on the Science" Fans...
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Aug 22, 2021 15:37
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College Rockout posted:Uhh, your doctor isn't concerned about you doing this? I''m just a fitness hobbyist but that seems really high to be at for a whole workout. I was told that the rule of thumb for max safe heart rate was 220 minus your age so 180 for a 40yr old. And adding stimulants on top of that, ooph, i'm getting heart palpitations just thinking of that. This is the worst time to need emergency medical help. If my resting heart rate gets above 70 it means I've been a piece of poo poo for at least a month not doing any exercise and drinking every weekend. It's normally in the low to mid 60s and goes down to the 50s when I'm working out regularly and watching my diet. I'm amazed at all the super high numbers people are posting just because of how different "normal" is for each individual.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:38
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i am harry posted:get them the gently caress vaccinated That's good advice for an individual, but it's not really a solution to a broad problem like "hospitals can turn you away because they're mad at you now." Whenever American society develops a new situation where it's okay to kill people, it ends up killing a lot more people than it's theoretically supposed to on paper. Pointing the it's okay to kill these guys sign at half the country is a loving bad plan.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:39
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College Rockout posted:Uhh, your doctor isn't concerned about you doing this? I''m just a fitness hobbyist but that seems really high to be at for a whole workout. I was told that the rule of thumb for max safe heart rate was 220 minus your age so 180 for a 40yr old. And adding stimulants on top of that, ooph, i'm getting heart palpitations just thinking of that. This is the worst time to need emergency medical help. heart rate is fantastically variable and not really a good indicator of overall health on its own hth
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Aug 22, 2021 15:40
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:My wife is on an immosupressant for Crohn’s disease and just got her third shot because her job is hellbent on forcing her and everyone else back into the office after Labor Day full time. Gotta take the precautions you can take. I’m glad your wife got a booster  did you get one too?
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Aug 22, 2021 15:40
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:So glad I left that poo poo province. Sound very accurate and a shame for such a beautiful place.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:42
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a lot of the hardcore white supremacists in state governments in the south definitely noticed the higher excess mortality rates for poc and shaped their vaccine education and outreach accordingly (ie not at all, let them die)
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Aug 22, 2021 15:42
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tuyop posted:heart rate is fantastically variable and not really a good indicator of overall health on its own hth i'm aware of that, that's why i'm asking what his doctor thinks instead of telling him to stop hth
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Aug 22, 2021 15:45
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Do they gatekeep medical treatment as "fully vaccinated" with 2 doses of mRNA forever, or at some point do they say "it appears you're having a heart attack, but our records show you haven't received a booster - please leave or security will remove you" Uptake on the booster is going to be low until people realize how bad things are
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Aug 22, 2021 15:48
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Aug 22, 2021 15:51
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Fireside Nut posted:I’m glad your wife got a booster I haven’t bothered trying yet because I’m not immunocompromised and my employer pushed off return to office plans again. So I’ll wait for general availability. I don’t do poo poo in public except ride my bike in the woods or hit the grocery store once every two weeks anyway.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:52
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Gio posted:is “not receiving treatment bc of vaccination status” actually a thing that is happening or is it just a fictional scenario ppl are yelling at each other about https://twitter.com/daniel_kraft/status/1428730317179736069 https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1429418842179178502
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Aug 22, 2021 15:53
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College Rockout posted:i'm aware of that, that's why i'm asking what his doctor thinks instead of telling him to stop hth You died 10 minutes ago hth.
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Aug 22, 2021 15:54
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McNugget Buddy posted:https://twitter.com/daniel_kraft/status/1428730317179736069 “may have to consider” and for reasons that dont seem to include “to spite them”
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Aug 22, 2021 15:56
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So I already got my third shot almost a month ago and I just got a reminder text that I'm supposed to come in for my "second" shot this Friday. I wonder if I should just go and get the 4th shot? It's not like things are going to get any better so might as well for for Turbo max titers
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Aug 22, 2021 15:58
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Real Mean Queen posted:That's good advice for an individual, but it's not really a solution to a broad problem like "hospitals can turn you away because they're mad at you now." Whenever American society develops a new situation where it's okay to kill people, it ends up killing a lot more people than it's theoretically supposed to on paper. Pointing the it's okay to kill these guys sign at half the country is a loving bad plan. agreed, I’m not defending that part of it just latching on to the point that many more poc are still unvaccinated
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Aug 22, 2021 15:59
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Gio posted:is “not receiving treatment bc of vaccination status” actually a thing that is happening or is it just a fictional scenario ppl are yelling at each other about It thankfully doesn’t appear to be happening, but it’s the current blue maga meme that hospital staff should be stopping unvaccinated people at the door and sending them home to die so that they can save beds for the good boys and girls who got their vaccines and then safely got covid at brunch like the CDC said to
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Aug 22, 2021 15:59
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I haven’t bothered trying yet because I’m not immunocompromised and my employer pushed off return to office plans again. So I’ll wait for general availability. I don’t do poo poo in public except ride my bike in the woods or hit the grocery store once every two weeks anyway. yeah sounds like a good plan. we do similar work and I’ve been lucky enough to be WFH since last March. but out of nowhere they are now pushing for a return to the office in September (lmao) - and my kiddo starts school in a few weeks so I took the plunge. I wanted to wait a little longer for a booster but i also don’t want to gently caress around and find out given my changing circumstances lol
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Aug 22, 2021 16:00
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People who have kids and love them don’t want to gamble even if the “risk is small”. Also, the risk is small because many people have isolated their kids and kept them safe so as not to expose them. My kids have seen two other families with kids in 2 years and played with some neighborhood kids at the playground that we know. They’re are also very happy and not OCD like I am about cleaning and sanitizing. Even after the poo poo year and a half we’ve been through.
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Aug 22, 2021 16:01
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third moderna is the strongest yet. stretching feels soooooo loving good. My apartment is too drat cold
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Gio posted:“may have to consider” and for reasons that dont seem to include “to spite them” If the result is to further racially segregate treatment it doesn't really matter if the motivation is spite.
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crepeface posted:i got a caught a bad cold 3 days after my 2nd vaccination shot, i wonder if that had any effect is this 'bad cold' stuff a real thing or is it just covid? I have a family member trying to visit another family member in a nursing home. The visitor has 'been dealing with a cold for a couple days' featuring runny nose, a little sneezing and coughing last night. 'Probably a vapers cough.' 100% this morning but now they have a sinus headache.
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College Rockout posted:Uhh, your doctor isn't concerned about you doing this? I''m just a fitness hobbyist but that seems really high to be at for a whole workout. I was told that the rule of thumb for max safe heart rate was 220 minus your age so 180 for a 40yr old. And adding stimulants on top of that, ooph, i'm getting heart palpitations just thinking of that. This is the worst time to need emergency medical help. I mean I try not to do that part, that was a stupid one... but I can definitely be stubborn and refuse to quit once I've committed. I also sprained my ankle pretty good once trail running because I had already driven to the trail and gently caress it if it's muddy and slick, I'm here damnit! I do wait until 4 hours after taking the meds though to exercise (which is about when they wear off). I did ask about it combining them with exercise early on though and the doc said it shouldn't really be a problem. The problem with running on the hot and humid day is that I just shouldn't have done it at all I think. Edit: Oh and the max is just that, like a full on HIT type max where you want to vomit. That is not like a typical max for every session, and I don't really do HIT these days. Forseti fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Aug 22, 2021 |
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Gio posted:“may have to consider” and for reasons that dont seem to include “to spite them” Iirc Italy and other places prioritized treatment for young people and let the old die since they couldn't be saved, this is the same concept Was idly thinking about why my cousin in law got such bad covid. Late 40s, good shape, but not an endurance runner or anything so no immune suppression. His kid catches covid from classmate, dad catches from him, they both test positive and leave the house to isolate. Neither have symptoms at all Then they spend 6 hours driving to a cabin. Day or two later cousin is insanely sick, drives back, is even worse and ER visits happen. My theory is he got a bunch more virus by hotboxing it with his kid and didn't realize it would add to what was currently in his system and it overwhelmed his antibodies. I've never heard of anyone ever suggesting getting a second viral load while you're fighting the first infection, but wouldn't this be possible and explain a lot
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Real Mean Queen posted:It thankfully doesn’t appear to be happening, but it’s the current blue maga meme that hospital staff should be stopping unvaccinated people at the door and sending them home to die so that they can save beds for the good boys and girls who got their vaccines and then safely got covid at brunch like the CDC said to yeah i know, but i still can’t say that i have much sympathy for people who are unvaccinated at this point. or blue MAGA. kind of a “let them fight” scenario.
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PerniciousKnid posted:If the result is to further racially segregate treatment it doesn't really matter if the motivation is spite. well fortunately then its just a made up scenario people are ginning themselves up to be mad about
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Gio posted:well fortunately then its just a made up scenario people are ginning themselves up to be mad about Nothing about triaging care or bias against POC seems very hypothetical to me. Edit: I mean this is something that seems likely to happen in a week or two, it's not like we're taking about giving whites preference for Cyber Arms.
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College Rockout posted:i'm aware of that, that's why i'm asking what his doctor thinks instead of telling him to stop hth Doc does know about the typical 175bpm avg feeling comfortable for me (that was also where I'd end up before starting on Adderall). He says he usually has a higher than rule of thumb heart rate during exercise too and that it's not really a big deal. 175 is like zone 4 for me I'd say based on the highly scientific "can still talk in short bursts, but not conversationally" metric.
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PerniciousKnid posted:If the result is to further racially segregate treatment it doesn't really matter if the motivation is spite. Is your suggestion that people should be treated based on a paper bag test instead of on their likelihood of survival. Yes I know the same paper bag test means racist doctors will say darker people aren't gonna make it . which is a good example of why seeing if someone is vaccinated and making that a hard line would help obviate the problem
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The New Yorker: Have You Already Had a Breakthrough COVID Infection?Dhruv Khullar posted:In one sense, defining a breakthrough infection is straightforward: you have one if you test positive two or more weeks after completing all recommended doses of a COVID vaccine. But, in another sense, the meaning of the term is unclear. A highly sensitive P.C.R. test has detected some of the virus’s genetic code inside your nose. So what? The real issue with breakthrough infections is the ontological characteristics of viruses which modern medicine ignores. Heres a hypothetical to prove my point: The level of consent manufacturing that’s gearing up is beyond what I’d imagine but then again I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
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quote:It’s like ‘Lord of the Rings’ or ‘Troy’: one army usually kicks the other’s rear end. If you’re vaccinated, your immune system is ready, it’s better equipped, and it usually kicks the virus’s rear end. literally the only battle i remember from lord of the rings is the one where the more ready and better equipped army is winning bigly then gets beat by a last minute reversal
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Plank Walker posted:literally the only battle i remember from lord of the rings is the one where the more ready and better equipped army is winning bigly then gets beat by a last minute reversal you're going to have to be more specific because that is every battle in lotr
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"it's like lord of the rings in here" i say as i slip into brunch, alerting every coronavirus in the area to my exact location
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mastershakeman posted:Is your suggestion that people should be treated based on a paper bag test instead of on their likelihood of survival. You basically remade the point I made so I'll just add that "let unvaccinated people die" is not some bright line that we can draw. I'm not the OP, I'm just saying we need to be vigilant about the issue and not get too excited about neglecting unvaccinated people. Many people are unvaccinated due to systemic issues created deliberately by the same folks who put themselves first in line for vaccines, after all.
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The New Yorker: You're not really sick if your immune system responds, what is the definition of life anyway?
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Plank Walker posted:literally the only battle i remember from lord of the rings is the one where the more ready and better equipped army is winning bigly then gets beat by a last minute reversal yeah Delta is way more like Helm's Deep: there's just way too goddamn many of them. Gandalf the White Cell comes to save the day
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