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Cowslips Warren posted:I wonder, if the insanity that had been Trump hadn't been president when this poo poo went down, think it would have been so politicized? I think while we were heading towards the direction of Trump (see Sarah Palin, see tea party, see Fox, see old white dudes increasingly desperate to hang onto power) I'm pretty sure he was one of if not the worse possible outcomes.
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I've seen a few articles about animals harboring Covid, such as white tailed deer. https://thetandd.com/business/agriculture/studies-show-deer-exposed-to-covid/article_65431dfd-c8a4-5731-8b09-c88bef5aa5b0.html Is there any good evidence for human to animal and then back to human transmission?
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Sammus posted:Is there any good evidence for human to animal and then back to human transmission? It happened with the Danish mink abusers. “Cluster 5” was the big one.
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Aug 23, 2021 00:52
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1429070814851313668 Vaccine mandates when?
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This will definitely have all those hesitant solely due to lack of FDA approval rushing to Walgreens, and won’t instead move the goalposts at all.
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EL BROMANCE posted:This will definitely have all those hesitant solely due to lack of FDA approval rushing to Walgreens, and won’t instead move the goalposts at all. I think that the point is more to open the door to easier mandates from businesses (and the military).
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Of course there’s benefits and it was always going to happen, I’m just taking swipes at the so-called hesitant people who’ll now be finding new reasons to not get it rather than just admit they’re part of the anti vax loon brigade.
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Aug 23, 2021 02:11
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Oh, for sure. Those people are pretty much unreachable I think.
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Aug 23, 2021 02:16
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EL BROMANCE posted:This will definitely have all those hesitant solely due to lack of FDA approval rushing to Walgreens, and won’t instead move the goalposts at all. It won't convince a single one of them but "can employers and schools mandate an unapproved vaccine?" was a real, open question among legal experts and this renders the question moot. That's really important and paves the way for a lot more mandates while knocking out one of the only possible legal argument that chuds could use to fight them.
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Aug 23, 2021 02:20
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Bliss, I look forward to the tears that tomorrow will bring.
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Aug 23, 2021 02:21
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Just to clarify for people of the future: Yes, America banned masks in some of the more backward states, during a pandemic, because they thought wearing a mask vs a respiratory virus infringed on their freedoms lol
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EL BROMANCE posted:Of course there’s benefits and it was always going to happen, I’m just taking swipes at the so-called hesitant people who’ll now be finding new reasons to not get it rather than just admit they’re part of the anti vax loon brigade. I saw someone on reddit refer to them as "spreadnecks" and I can't think of anti-vaxxers as anything but. t
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I think you'll see some people get it now that FDA full approval is here. Some people are just a particular type of stubborn where they just draw some arbitrary line and won't move until then. I think they are in the minority. I think that the lions share of the holdouts will still not be moved by this. Conspiracy theorists, right wing team politics types, religious lunatics, right wing anti-government types, and people who are secretly one of these things but refuse to admit it will not be moved by this. Also the whole thing with uninsured people, non-english speakers, etc, that changes nothing with them. Basically I expect a modest rise in vaccination rate, but nothing too significant, maybe just a slight increase over the bump we've been getting as regular people start to worry about delta. Edit: Raskolnikov2089 posted:I saw someone on reddit refer to them as "spreadnecks" and I can't think of anti-vaxxers as anything but. I really like this on sound alone, but I feel like I'm missing the joke? Edit again: I am a moron and didn't catch the obvious "spread" joke. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Aug 23, 2021 03:18
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Hopefully any major event gives people a chance to reevaluate things overall. At this point most people should know someone who's had covid or the vaccine, but that tends to come in as random bits of info rather than a reason to sit back and review the big picture. It's also just psychologically easier for some people to say they changed a decision because the situation changed rather than admit the decision they made months ago was terrible to begin with.
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yook posted:Hopefully any major event gives people a chance to reevaluate things overall. At this point most people should know someone who's had covid or the vaccine, but that tends to come in as random bits of info rather than a reason to sit back and review the big picture. I am sure that there were a few odd people actually waiting for this but I doubt it will have much of an impact. Found out today that my cousin’s husband has been in the ICU for nine days and is reportedly ‘fighting so he doesn’t have to be intubated’. 
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Aug 23, 2021 04:33
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Actually the reason they aren’t getting vaccinated is economic anxiety.
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Aug 23, 2021 05:31
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Zil posted:Miracles do happen. The latter is a persistent issue just about everywhere I look: people basing their beliefs and decisions off of research done when the wild type or alpha strains were most prevalent. That's due to some combination of sticky initial beliefs (e.g. people still thinking that six feet is some magic number) and manufactured consent.
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wilderthanmild posted:Conspiracy theorists, right wing team politics types, religious lunatics, right wing anti-government types, and people who are secretly one of these things but refuse to admit it will not be moved by this. Someone somewhere put it this way: the people ignoring the FDA's advice on not taking horse de-wormer paste aren't likely to be swayed by the FDA's approval of the vaccines
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https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/1429475078752849926 https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/1429475509029818369 He died as he lived: dumb as hell
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Libertarian to the enditarian
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You can't have any kind of discussion about masks or vaccines with people until you've determined whether they think COVID is real and causes suffering and death. It happened to me personally where the goalposts just kept getting moved around all over the place and once I got to the real issue (it's just the flu), then I could disengage and just leave. To a very limited extent, I can understand some hesitancy around the vaccine, but it's not worth a second of my time discussing things if they don't even have a grasp on reality.
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Let's check in on the discourse again and see how things are going https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1413662890163322885  Okay yeah not a lot of progress
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Aug 23, 2021 11:21
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PCR test came negative so it's good old fashioned flu/cold. Welp, back to licking lampposts.
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It's amazing how big of babies a lot of people are about taking tests. We can't get my MiL to take a test, even if it's a choice between that and not seeing her grandson for 2 weeks. A friend's mom also chose to skip a concert, for a local musician she has followed her whole life and never missed a show before now, because it was "just too much" to take a test that was required.
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Aug 23, 2021 13:26
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In the UK, except like medical reasons obv , there is absolutely zero reason to not order a 7 pack of lateral flow tests each week. They are free and delivered to your home (godbless NHS and Royal Mail) and the new batches don't even require the tonsil swab part.
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Felt like making some charts today using Florida data. Here is Vaccination Rate vs Cases Per 100k  Nice noticeable trend there. But unfortunately Hospitalizations per 100k doesn't follow the same trend  Now I don't know if this is the result of how the data is reported(county of residence vs county of hospitalization), hospitals maxing out on capacity, or if there really is no reduction in hospitalizations associated with vaccination rate in this case. It's too bad Florida doesn't report deaths by county anymore, since that would probably be less prone to aberrations as long as they reported by county of residence. Maybe I'll try this with another state that does report deaths by county. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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wilderthanmild posted:But unfortunately Hospitalizations per 100k doesn't follow the same trend
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Good point. That makes sense to me.
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Uh, I don't wanna be a grammar nazi, but maybe proofread your texts before you compel others to take dangerous animal meds?
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It's official: https://twitter.com/MarkCavitt/status/1429800909039616002?s=20
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Full approval means more places can mandate the vaccine without fear of legal repercussion, right? I think *that's* the real key to boosting vaccination rates. Oh, you wanna go to an NFL game? Get vaccinated. You want to fly? Get vaccinated. You want to work at a job that includes face-to-face interactions with the public? Get vaccinated.
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A Fancy Hat posted:Full approval means more places can mandate the vaccine without fear of legal repercussion, right? I don't know what the laws are on vaccine mandates, but generally it's corporations that push this so basically yeah what you said in the second sentence I'm really waiting for the next chud talking point: "Oh yeah the FDA only granted it under political pressure because of BIDEN therefore I won't be taking poison thank you"
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I fell proud knowing that i'm living in the most dewormed America ever.
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A Fancy Hat posted:Full approval means more places can mandate the vaccine without fear of legal repercussion, right? This won’t budge the death cultists, but of course nothing will. They even jeered Trump recently when he suggested they get the vaccine, lol.
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Rad-daddio posted:Uh, I don't wanna be a grammar nazi, but maybe proofread your texts before you compel others to take dangerous animal meds? What for, the idiots who will take their (there) advice won’t care anyway
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They’ll just say something like “Oh, the FDA is corrupt and is actually controlled by CHINA. Look at the bigger picture.”
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support are dewormers
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FDA approved? And you trust those guys?? Heh *squeezes entire tube of goop with a horse on it into mouth*
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explosivo posted:FDA approved? And you trust those guys?? Heh Horse means strong 
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