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tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


How's the NYC hurricane going?

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Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




tater_salad posted:

How's the NYC hurricane going?

got like 7 inches of rain already and it aint stoppin

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

tater_salad posted:

How's the NYC hurricane going?

According to Con Edison, a whopping 1389 people without power: https://outagemap.coned.com/external/default.html

And on Long Island, my Godmother said "lots of rain and a little wind."

Only *464* people without power on Long Island: https://mypowermap.psegliny.com/external/default.html

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth
The Central Pacific Hurricane Center decided this storm (Linda) got too weak yesterday, declared it post-tropical, and stopped issuing advisories.

Let's check in today and...oh.



Let's see what the CPHC has to say and...oh.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

So is this tropical storm Henri poo poo just a wet fart?

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
It's wet alright.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Perry Mason Jar posted:

It's wet alright.

how wet, from the standpoint of water?

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

It's a sign of things to come. As the earth continues to warm we will get stronger and stronger storms going further and further north.

Hopefully individual areas can prep better than the states have been. :/

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
https://twitter.com/CAFireScanner/status/1429631171218919425

nature is healing

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
724k acres holy fuckin poo poo lmfao congratulations new record california wildfire acreage

AppleNippleBOB
May 13, 2007



If anyone is in the middle TN area and wants to help with search and rescue/relief efforts, DM me.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Shear Modulus posted:

how wet, from the standpoint of water?

one of the driest, honestly

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth
Lmao, the CPHC is asleep at the wheel. People already distrust government institutions as it is. https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/1429661682721193985

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://i.imgur.com/LKTvvcW.mp4

This is fine.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 07:07 on Aug 23, 2021

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

I seriously can't wait to wake up tomorrow morning. If there's still no tropical storm warning issued I'll laugh my rear end off.

Edit: This is the same CPHC that got severely hosed up forecasting Iniki. Even more funny now since they have tools they couldn't have dreamed of then. I'll eat my hat if this landfalls as anything more than a weak tropical storm, but the CPHC has a documented history of getting poo poo wrong.

Lyndon LaRouche has issued a correction as of 07:25 on Aug 23, 2021

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

NWS Honolulu posted:

Based on the latest track guidance, we believe the center of the low will be on Maui's doorstep some time after midnight HST. It will continue to bring its heavy rain and gusty winds across the rest of Maui County through early Monday morning. Unfortunately for Oahu, this means that by daybreak Monday, the weather will likely take a serious turn for the worst. Since the track of the low center could be just south of the island, flooding rains with heavy thunderstorms and gusty winds could make the morning commute very challenging. These conditions could persist for several hours, so there could be some issues with tree branches falling, clogged drains, and spotty power outages into Monday afternoon. These adverse weather conditions will also likely spread to Kauai during the daytime hours Monday, where thunderstorms could also produce flash flooding and strong gusty winds.

Tomorrow is the first day of class at UH Manoa. Traffic is gonna be an absolute shitshow with this and nobody is prepared for it beyond the generic flash flood watches and wind advisories that often get ignored. CPHC really screwing the pooch with this by not issuing any sort of tropical storm warning.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://i.imgur.com/uxCFhwT.mp4

In the last hour or two it’s changed behavior.

I don’t know anything about meteorology. Has it gone down on one knee or have organ music and Latin chanting started in the background?

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth
Looks like wind shear is still beating the poo poo out of it but it also really, really wants to strengthen in spite of it.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Platystemon posted:

https://i.imgur.com/uxCFhwT.mp4

In the last hour or two it’s changed behavior.

I don’t know anything about meteorology. Has it gone down on one knee or have organ music and Latin chanting started in the background?

ahh the missile is finally here

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

paperwind posted:

Tomorrow is the first day of class at UH Manoa. Traffic is gonna be an absolute shitshow with this and nobody is prepared for it beyond the generic flash flood watches and wind advisories that often get ignored. CPHC really screwing the pooch with this by not issuing any sort of tropical storm warning.

the wind advisory for Honolulu says sustained winds of 25-30mph, that’s below tropical storm strength

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Platystemon posted:

https://i.imgur.com/uxCFhwT.mp4

In the last hour or two it’s changed behavior.

I don’t know anything about meteorology. Has it gone down on one knee or have organ music and Latin chanting started in the background?

So is there a DBZ brawl going on there, looks like someone just powering up in the sky.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Platystemon posted:

https://i.imgur.com/uxCFhwT.mp4

In the last hour or two its changed behavior.

I dont know anything about meteorology. Has it gone down on one knee or have organ music and Latin chanting started in the background?

id be concerned if that random small island was inhabited but luckily it's not so nbd

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It fell apart again. :ms:

Here’s the last twenty hours.

https://i.imgur.com/1bVzP48.mp4

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Zil posted:

So is there a DBZ brawl going on there, looks like someone just powering up in the sky.

The first half of the animation has frames every 5 minutes. The second half jumps to 15 minutes between successive frames.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

The cspam weather thread posting scary looking dbz images with zero rotation and flipping about about how incompetent the forecasters are only to go back and edit their criticism away is the funniest poo poo ever.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pryor on Fire posted:

The cspam weather thread posting scary looking dbz images with zero rotation and flipping about about how incompetent the forecasters are only to go back and edit their criticism away is the funniest poo poo ever.

No one on this page edited anything more than ten minutes after posting, though? :confused:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
I thought that was really interesting. I've only ever heard about or read about wind shear taking apart a storm. It's neat to see it in action.

I still don't fully grasp what wind shear is though. That's caused by like wind shifting from higher elevation to lower and creating like a wind wall that the storm isn't strong enough to push though?

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





That storm was just moonwalking to flex on Hawaii

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

I thought that was really interesting. I've only ever heard about or read about wind shear taking apart a storm. It's neat to see it in action.

I still don't fully grasp what wind shear is though. That's caused by like wind shifting from higher elevation to lower and creating like a wind wall that the storm isn't strong enough to push though?

this an explanation of wind shear as it relates to a tropical storm: https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/articles/wind-shear-explainer
notably

quote:

The troposphere is the region of the atmosphere that our active weather is confined to, and extends up to about 40,000 feet altitude (a pressure of about 200 mb) in the tropics in summer. Hurricanes fill the entire vertical extent of the troposphere, and are steered by the average wind through this layer. When one hears the phrase, "wind shear is 20 knots over the hurricane", this typically refers to the difference in wind speed between 200 mb (the top of the troposphere, 40,000 feet altitude) and a layer where a pressure of 850 mb is found--about 5,000 feet above the surface.

this won't help anyone that looks in the future but take a look at the nifty earth wind map: https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-158.33,20.89,1748
I just grabbed a random point to the north of the low that has wind at the 850hPa level as 32knots with a direction of 110 degrees. its moving west at like 20 knots. Wind at 250hPa is 37 knots at 245 degrees. In other words the storm has a giant head wind so instead of the entire air mass "moving together" to the west the top part of the troposphere is blowing any water (energy) that makes it to that altitude away. this means the storm can't develop because all that energy isn't in one spot. in comparison if the high level wind was going with the storm at about the same rate then all that energy would stay in the same spot relative to the storm's movement and the storm could intensify.

this is a more official wind shear map, the red 40/50 says theres a 40 to 50 knot difference between surface winds and upper level winds consistent with what I said above http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/storm.php?&basin=eastpac&sname=12E&invest=YES&zoom=4&img=1&vars=11111000000000000000000&loop=0

hobbesmaster has issued a correction as of 18:00 on Aug 23, 2021

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

Pryor on Fire posted:

The cspam weather thread posting scary looking dbz images with zero rotation and flipping about about how incompetent the forecasters are only to go back and edit their criticism away is the funniest poo poo ever.

what

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
I'm really confused about the no rotation part because it's not very hard to see the LLC rotating in those IR loops posted above lol

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

all lows rotate, thats what makes them a low



well, sort of, its more that low pressure means theres a cyclonic rotation of the air (counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere), high pressure means anticyclonic (clockwise in the northern hemisphere)

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth
Well, fortunately it got blown apart. No convection left.

https://i.imgur.com/TooIoQ2.gifv

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

paperwind posted:

Lmao, the CPHC is asleep at the wheel. People already distrust government institutions as it is. https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/1429661682721193985

i enjoyed this particular graphic because you can see what looks like the higher parts of the eye wall just getting absolutely blasted away in a sort of smoke stack from the direction of the island. high altitude winds blowing directly opposed to the thing's direction of motion is what took it apart, I'm guessing?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

the bitcoin of weed posted:

i enjoyed this particular graphic because you can see what looks like the higher parts of the eye wall just getting absolutely blasted away in a sort of smoke stack from the direction of the island. high altitude winds blowing directly opposed to the thing's direction of motion is what took it apart, I'm guessing?

yeah the big puff is the storm plume reaching the top of the troposphere, hitting wind shear, and blowing away. in calmer upper winds that plume will reinvest down below and continue the virtuous cycle on the way to hurricane-strength

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Gotta love the HWRF

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

lol that's sick

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Wait lol what

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Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

Literal worst case scenario here right?

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