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Bucnasti posted:Does it have a George Carlin Miniature? Yes! He's the 5th playable character, coming in the expansion set with the 10 "upgrade" minis that replace the cardboard standees. The only downside to them is they're all 45mm models so they aren't exactly compatible with any other figures you might want to mix them with, but they're all internally consistent. jesus WEP posted:those minis looks remarkably decent for how little the game costs Well it was only that cheap in the UK because nobody bought it so it's in firesale territory. Which is a shame, because the figures are really good and the game is really fun. The game isn't even on Tabletop Simulator, because it's so overlooked nobody bought it even just to scan it in. Parkingtigers fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Parkingtigers posted:Well it was only that cheap in the UK because nobody bought it so it's in firesale territory. Which is a shame, because the figures are really good and the game is really fun. Yeah I looked at it when you posted it in the BG Thread, but the shipping costs to the States put it a bit out of reach for me. Especially when my pile of shame is already plenty high.
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be excellent to each other... and PARTY AWN DUDES! 
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i bought the game+expansion. £25 for that many minis in 45mm is really too good a value proposition to turn down
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Thanks for all the advice everyone! I need to get some Talassar Blue but in the meantime I realised I have some contrast paints in my collection I haven't actually used, so I tried some Iyanden Yellow on a power sword which looks cool. Also tried some Tesseract Glow on the plasma coils which also looks nice, will drybrush on at the end to attempt a glow effect. Amazing what those look like when I don't prime with black like a dummy trapped in the 90s!
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Parkingtigers posted:Yes, and it's fun and simple and you can set it up and teach it in 5 minutes and is thematic as hell. Going to quote myself from the board games thread: I picked it up last week after your post in the board game thread too, having given it a solo test play (using 2 characters, Bill and Ted) I'd agree with what you said; Its a decent light dice chucking game. Not super deep and strategic, but enough going on that it stays interesting to play. Start of the game was a little "Uh... I'm not sure where to start", but the objective card each character is dealt gives you a nudge ("Well, I guess Bill will go get Joan of Arc and bring her to san dimas, because thats his objective, then once he's done that he might as well drop her off at her home time and work on that rift. Ted needs to have 2 figures in his phone booth, so he can... Well, If he goes through those 2 locations, picking up those historical figures as he passes, he'll achieve his objective and also be in the right position to drop babe ruth off in new york...") then once you are rolling its fine. And if you are in the UK (which I am) £20 for all those figures would be pretty good value without there being a pretty fun game attached! looking forward to getting around to painting them at some point.* *nb this point may be a while, because my pile of shame is... well its not small, thats all I'm saying.
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Tentatively dipping my toes back into this cursed hobby after a decade and a half break. Naturally, I have long since gotten rid of all of my previous supplies so I am coming in with nothing but an Xacto knife I found in our junk drawer. Are there any decent quick start bundles or something like that? The links in the OP are mostly dead (but considering they're 6 years old, that's hardly a surprise). I'm not above just buying things piecemeal but I'm also lazy, so having it all in one spot would be convenient. 
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Does anyone have any advice or a guide on basing with the various terrain pastes? I've got Vallejo white rough pumice and I am having A Time getting this stuff on a base without a mess.
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SiKboy posted:I picked it up last week after your post in the board game thread too, having given it a solo test play (using 2 characters, Bill and Ted) I'd agree with what you said; Its a decent light dice chucking game. Not super deep and strategic, but enough going on that it stays interesting to play. Start of the game was a little "Uh... I'm not sure where to start", but the objective card each character is dealt gives you a nudge ("Well, I guess Bill will go get Joan of Arc and bring her to san dimas, because thats his objective, then once he's done that he might as well drop her off at her home time and work on that rift. Ted needs to have 2 figures in his phone booth, so he can... Well, If he goes through those 2 locations, picking up those historical figures as he passes, he'll achieve his objective and also be in the right position to drop babe ruth off in new york...") then once you are rolling its fine. Oh, nice. Glad I didn’t steer you wrong. It was at such an intersection of cheap + fun + overlooked that I felt compelled to do some courtesy shilling for it as I’m sad it fell through the gaps. Looking forward to seeing what you both do with those figures.
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Cat Face Joe posted:What are you painting? 40k stuff for now. I think it's mostly plastic (GW) and resin (Forge World) at this point? I don't know if they even make metal models anymore.
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:I'm absolutely shocked that I managed to come up with a Steel Legion yellow color that doesn't look (too much) like baby poop. this looks great!
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Cat Face Joe posted:Does anyone have any advice or a guide on basing with the various terrain pastes? I've got Vallejo white rough pumice and I am having A Time getting this stuff on a base without a mess. Very cheap very stiff bristle brushes. Also disposable coffee stirrers and toothpicks. You don't need a lot to get a good effect either, just a dab kinda stippled on will give you a nice rough texture that takes dry brushing really well. putting on a thick coat is probably a waste of material, time and sanity.
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I use popsicle sticks to apply texture paste 
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Bucnasti posted:putting on a thick coat is probably a waste of material, time and sanity. Word, I went through about 2/3 a bottle of Vallejo Environment mud+grass basing 10 space marines and 6 imperial guard. I was too thick with it, although...it does look pretty cool. I use an ancient child paintbrush my in-laws had in a closet to apply it, but could do popsicle sticks too. Aranan posted:Tentatively dipping my toes back into this cursed hobby after a decade and a half break. Naturally, I have long since gotten rid of all of my previous supplies so I am coming in with nothing but an Xacto knife I found in our junk drawer. If it helps, I just threw some money at the question after some brisk research so there are surely cheaper options for some of this, but here's exactly what I bought to get started painting space marines again: The real necessities: This Vallejo 16-bottle Game Color basic set although I paid less than this, Amazon sucks for relist pricing like this. This set of 11 Army Painter washes but you can certainly do with just black, dark brown, and flesh tone. This Army Painter 3 brush set has the right mix of sizes for minis, probably not enough for vehicles or bigger models. Citadel plastic glue I really like the metal tip but there are absolutely cheaper plastic cements. The Master's Brush Cleaner from the OP This is the Vallejo Environment paint I used for basing Spray cans of flat black and flat gray Rustoleum 2x primer from the hardware store Spurious poo poo you could probably replace with household goods or do without: This Detail brush from Army Painter although I had to replace it once since the first I got had some hosed up bristles, ymmv. The "Insane" brush in the 3-pack is too small for medium-detail. The Citadel water pot because I am a spendthrift but honestly it's got enough ribbing and channels and a little brush holder that it's actually...pretty worth it. The (old?) Citadel paint handle holder thing I can't live without but you probably can This Gundam model builder toolbox but you could really just get the clippers and the nail filing sponge block. Some dirt cheap plastic palettes for five bucks Super Glue for resin or metal models if you ever get them, but I've been sticking to plastic. This got me following along to this Ultramarines painting tutorial, and with some mixing of the basic colors in that Vallejo box I've done yeoman's work with other marine chapters. Once I picked up some Imperial Guard to paint and decided I really like doing this, I picked up the Specialist Vallejo paint set for its khakis, browns, and army greens along with a handful of piecemeal Citadel pots and a laser-cut paint storage rack/drawer thing and made a wet palette and oh christ Along with the WH40K units themselves, that's how I personally put Jeff Bezos into orbit. I'll try to buy enough to keep him there next time. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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i really like the army painter set of 3 sculpting tools. also pull the texture paste into position, don’t push it. sounds like it couldn’t possibly make a difference but it’s insanely easier to control where it’s going this way. also thin layers only. thick layers take for literal ever to dry and will probably deform a whole bunch in the process. jesus WEP fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Aranan posted:40k stuff for now. I think it's mostly plastic (GW) and resin (Forge World) at this point? I don't know if they even make metal models anymore. I think they mean that their recommendation of starter paints may be different if you were painting Orks than if you were painting Space Wolves or Ultramarines tbh. Like if you are painting Ultramarines a green isnt so important, but if you are painting Orks... I have no particular painting set recommendations, my paints were picked up piecemeal as and when I needed them, from probably 5-6 different brands. Vallejo do a couple of starter sets you might want to have a look at, as they are the ones that people commonly come into the thread asking "I'm thinking of getting this". As you have no paints at all, you dont need to worry about "well, it contains X paints, but I already have a black, dark red and green, so I only need X-3 of them, so what does that make it per useful pot...". Generally the brush you get with a getting started set is going to be... I'm not going to say trash, but I will say "not great". Probably good enough to get started, but dont count on it being durable. To be honest, whatever you get you're going to end up adding to anyway, unless you lose your drat mind and buy one of those ludicrous "every paint in our range!" boxes some companies do (dont do this, you wont ever open half of them). If you are looking for some generic advice, I'd say make sure you get a black, white, red, blue, green, several browns (life is easier if you have a different colour for wood than you do for leather instead of having to mix something every time), a mid grey, an ivory or bone, a caucasian skin tone of some description, a black wash, a dark brown wash and a flesh wash, and a metallic grey (a steel or gunmetal of some description), possibly a brass or a gold. And a yellow I suppose but my best advice there is "avoid painting anything yellow if at all possible". But if you are painting tyranids or something that advice might be stupid, you'd have less need for brown but would definitely need maybe a purple or pink.
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Even Nids need brown, you can do a lot of shading of off-white carapaces with brown. Browns are honestly the most important ones to have multiple shades of.
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Eej posted:Even Nids need brown, you can do a lot of shading of off-white carapaces with brown. Browns are honestly the most important ones to have multiple shades of. Fair! Pretend I said you have less need for... the metallics? if you are painting tyranids. Multiple different browns definitely makes life so much easier in general, and its so easy to overlook because when thinking of colours people generally jump to ROYGBIV, even though more things are brown than orange (and you almost certainly dont need an indigo and a violet...).
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SiKboy posted:I think they mean that their recommendation of starter paints may be different if you were painting Orks than if you were painting Space Wolves or Ultramarines tbh. Like if you are painting Ultramarines a green isnt so important, but if you are painting Orks... Hah, that makes sense. I'm not particularly concerned about the paints -- I'll just pick those up as I need them. I was more hoping there was some hobby kit bundle thing with tweezers, snips, files, glue, etc. But I guess that's super easy to pick up individually and probably smarter to do anyway because you can get individual good stuff instead of a pile of cheap things. Squiggle's list looks good (thanks!) so I'll start grabbing stuff like that. Couple of really cheap brushes for basecoats, maybe pick up a size 1 kolinsky sable again because I remember those blowing me away when I swapped over from the garbage "hobby" brushes, etc. I never did the airbrush thing before, but I'm sort of tempted to try it now... If nothing else, it'd make priming / zenith highlights / sealing a lot faster and not require waiting for the right weather. SiKboy posted:And a yellow I suppose but my best advice there is "avoid painting anything yellow if at all possible".
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Does anyone have any experience with the monument hobby pro-acryl paints? They have a build your own paint set type deal but I don't know how the paint holds up.
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Squiggle posted:...which one is that? Because honestly I ain't loving with ink. I like Aethermatic Blue for plasma, I'd have gotten back to you earlier but I wanted to do a quick fix on a guardsman to show you:  Top right is the not great job from a few years ago, below that is whited out with brush-on primer, and left is one coat of Aethermatic Blue. I also tidied up where the primer went crazy, and I might touch it up later with a dot of pure white but the short version is that Aethermatic Blue is plasma easy mode.
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Aranan posted:Hah, that makes sense. I'm not particularly concerned about the paints -- I'll just pick those up as I need them. go size zero on the kolinsky imo
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I just received my Vallejo 16 Model Colour Basic set, and holy moly, I'm a convert to Vallejo paint. Up until now I'd been using Citadel paints I had from a few years back, but I'm absolutely loving the vivid colours from Vallejo and the consistency in the paints across the range. I can't say I love their gold, but other than that every colour has been a joy to paint with.
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PotatoManJack posted:I just received my Vallejo 16 Model Colour Basic set, and holy moly, I'm a convert to Vallejo paint. Up until now I'd been using Citadel paints I had from a few years back, but I'm absolutely loving the vivid colours from Vallejo and the consistency in the paints across the range. I can't say I love their gold, but other than that every colour has been a joy to paint with. half the price for like 95% of the quality seems worth it imo
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I have a 0 kolinsky brush I've never used because my size 2 can dot eyes and do details just fine
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Eej posted:I have a 0 kolinsky brush I've never used because my size 2 can dot eyes and do details just fine 
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My most used bristle brush is a Rafael 8404 Size 2. By like, a long, long way.
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nostrata posted:Does anyone have any experience with the monument hobby pro-acryl paints? They have a build your own paint set type deal but I don't know how the paint holds up. I did this cape all with the pro-acryl paints, and most of the armor as well but the rest was all vallejo. Just used Burnt Orange, Orange, Yellow. Did a base coat of the burnt orange then layered the other colors doing a 100 - 50/50 - 100 - 50/50 - 100 method. Figured I'd try some of the colors that are most notorious for being really lovely.  They don't need to be thinned much on the wet palette as they flow well and cover pretty decently. The first base coat of the burnt orange took about 2.5 thin coats to cover over the black primer. That's not atypical but hey thought i'd mention it. By the time I got to the orange layer I didn't even really notice that I was using a new brand of paint, they just worked nicely and I had a lot of fun doing that cape. The bottles are pretty good but the default nozzles have a habit of of splooging out a little paint when you close them if you don't let them sit for a second before doing it. They have some replacement nozzles available that I like a lot more, but tbh you can just deal with the tiny issue and save the money. The other colors I've worked with have been some greens and dark blue, which I used on my test grot and will likely use on the KT ork kommandos. They've all been just as good. I bought white and a dark grey off-black and will post how they are when I get to try them. IDK about their metallics, I hear they're good but I don't think they'll be better than the VMC stuff which is just the absolute best.
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Yeast posted:My most used bristle brush is a Rafael 8404 Size 2. I will endeavor to try this.
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Yeast posted:My most used bristle brush is a Rafael 8404 Size 2. Very much the same but I use a size 1 for extreme details and faces. The size 2 does 90% of the work on my marines though.
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I remember I bought some 0, 00, and 000 brushes but they were just too drat small. Could barely hold any paint at all, and the larger kolinsky sable brushes held their tips insanely well so it was effectively just increasing the paint reservoir by going up a size or two. It was enough of a game changer and made an impact that I still remember, so I'll go ahead and order a size 2 now to start my brush collection again.
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punishedkissinger posted:what do you use for edge highlighting? how can I do it well? I feel like I want my paint gloopy for them but then they get kinda smudgey? I use both for edge highlights. It's all in how thin to make your paint and how to hold your brush at just the right angle. Or I just use the tip and use it very sharply. it's not all that hard once you get the hang of it. But figuring out just how much to thin each specific paint, because each one behaves differently, and how to hold your brush is all just practice and brush control.
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There is a line between "flows smoothly off the brush" and "...straight into the recesses" that is so fine and specific to each individual paint that I have yet to find it without getting lucky. The best I can figure for the right consistency is: If it doesn't stay right where you touch it to the mini, it's too thin (or your brush is overloaded in the first place I guess). If your brush tip dries out before the brush runs out of paint, it's too thick. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:I did this cape all with the pro-acryl paints, and most of the armor as well but the rest was all vallejo. Just used Burnt Orange, Orange, Yellow. Did a base coat of the burnt orange then layered the other colors doing a 100 - 50/50 - 100 - 50/50 - 100 method. Figured I'd try some of the colors that are most notorious for being really lovely. I have the pro acryl metallics, they’re very good for regular acrylic metallics but they can’t touch VMC. What they do have is all the colors that VMC lacks like rich golds, bronze and copper. You definitely want to replace the twist tops with flip caps though.
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punishedkissinger posted:half the price for like 95% of the quality seems worth it imo Vallejo is the way to go most of the time. Speaking of, does anyone have any good up-to-date guides for which individual brands and paint names are best for particular colours? When I got back into miniature painting a few years ago I found a couple of old guides with people's favourite paints, i.e. the best dark caucasian skin tone, best yellows, etc?
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Xposting from specgames: Work has finally cleared up a bit so I have time to do some painting, which means it's Bone Bois Begin AKA It's Grime Time  
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The other nice thing about Vallejo is that AK has basically copied their range for their own range more or less so if for some reason one company goes out of business you've got the other as a backup. They're both roughly the same price and pretty much the same quality, both use dropper bottles etc. I do find that it's easier to shake up AK paints, but that may be just the fact that some of the Vallejo paints at the hobby store have been sitting there a long time compared to the AK ones. PotatoManJack posted:I just received my Vallejo 16 Model Colour Basic set, and holy moly, I'm a convert to Vallejo paint. Up until now I'd been using Citadel paints I had from a few years back, but I'm absolutely loving the vivid colours from Vallejo and the consistency in the paints across the range. I can't say I love their gold, but other than that every colour has been a joy to paint with. When you're ready, Vallejo Metal are worth grabbing for metallics because they're pretty much the gold (har) standard for metallic paints. The only issue is the gold is very green, and the copper is very red, but if you get both and mix them you get a very good gold. And if you don't want to invest that kind of money, since they're pretty big pots of paint and more expensive than your smaller pots, Vallejo Model Metallic Air are quite decent, with good coverage and are already thinned for you since they're designed for airbrushing.
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