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Steakandchips posted:More companies need to realise this extremely basic stuff. But that costs money. Better hire some more consultants.
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champagne posting posted:But that costs money. One is CAPEX, one is OPEX, what is so hard to understand?????????
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mllaneza posted:My take on it is that having a team under me means that my efforts are multiplied. let's say I have 5 techs who escalate issues to me. We get 5 tickets, they each get one. Four of the tickets are routine, and one only I know how to deal with. The tech with the troublesome ticket hits me up on chat and I tell them how to handle it. I spend 2 minutes on a ticket and the tech spends the time to go onsite and do the initial diagnosis. I get to keep working on a patching SOP for the GxP systems in Manufacturing and QC, that tech now also knows how to resolve this issue. If I have the spare bandwidth, I throw a quick article up on our wiki and now all 5 can cope if this come up again while I"m on vacation or truly busy. Sorry for the late reply, but I loved your take on this. I had a conversation today with a more junior (but not junior) member of my team who is just starting to get into this kind of arrangement (helping to triage tasks and delegate) and he was concerned that he wasn't doing enough because his output isn't as high. I told him in my own hamfisted way that his contributions are still incredibly useful even if it's not literal lines of code, but this really, really summarised it in a great way! I passed this on to him, I think he'll find it useful for sure.
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Steakandchips posted:More companies need to realise this extremely basic stuff. They won't. Every IT company I have ever worked for suffers severe libertarian brain poisoning. Or rather, they do recognise this basic stuff, and then work as hard as possible to avoid it. I was once literally laughed out of a meeting for suggesting the company offer paid internships to students to solve the problem of "not being able to find enough skilled programmers" This was a telco, so the other engineering departments were definitely doing internships. And the people laughing were, of course, middle aged middle class white men who had succeeded in their careers through their natural talent and hard work.
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Aug 25, 2021 12:16
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Steakandchips posted:More companies need to realise this extremely basic stuff. Turns out it's cheaper to pay for bulk health insurance than it is to lose half your staff every time a cough starts going around because your loving employees can't afford the time off to go see the doctor! But one of those is a reasonable business expense and the other one is rolling them bones baby
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Dongsturm posted:They won't. Every IT company I have ever worked for suffers severe libertarian brain poisoning. Or rather, they do recognise this basic stuff, and then work as hard as possible to avoid it. 
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Dongsturm posted:They won't. Every IT company I have ever worked for suffers severe libertarian brain poisoning. Or rather, they do recognise this basic stuff, and then work as hard as possible to avoid it. I mean they do though. There are many companies that are treating their employees much better and the only reason I bring this up is because you should never accept this poo poo as just the status quo.
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Aug 25, 2021 12:39
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Outrail posted:You see where you made your mistake, right? Yeeaah it's not shocking. I did manage to let someone else volunteer to actually do the project (back when it was a nice simple job) so it's not going to be my shitshow so I guess I should be glad for small mercies.
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Aug 25, 2021 13:57
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We had an 'inspirational' working from home email from an executive talking about the $300000 'green' off-grid power he had installed at his country home so he could work from home there reliably. Around the same time we found out there would be no payrises or bonuses. I can understand their desire to stick their snouts deep in the trough and take everything, but tone-deafness of it all is hard to grasp.
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Baconroll posted:We had an 'inspirational' working from home email from an executive talking about the $300000 'green' off-grid power he had installed at his country home so he could work from home there reliably. My girlfriend is in healthcare and when the pandemic started her hospitals CEO sent a pre-recorded message, filmed in his lavish dining room, which the title “we’re in this together”. Like you, I’m not surprised they’re doing this stuff, just how bad they are at it.
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Aug 25, 2021 14:59
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are bonuses an American thing? sounds like a really tricky cheap way to screw over your workforce by having a "bonus" that you may or may not get but was probably taken from your original salary package.
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Aug 25, 2021 15:13
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One of the places I applied to and then interviewed for was offering a fairly decent bonus for people with my certification. They sent me the job offer today and shock and surprise, in the fine print, there was no bonus. I think that might be literally fraud. Either way, no loving way am I gonna work there.
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Aug 25, 2021 15:18
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Lascivious Sloth posted:are bonuses an American thing? sounds like a really tricky cheap way to screw over your workforce by having a "bonus" that you may or may not get but was probably taken from your original salary package. Ding ding ding. Back in Australia I was never offered a bonus, I just complained about not making enough money during annual reviews and they either gave me a raise or they didn't.
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Aug 25, 2021 15:32
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Lascivious Sloth posted:are bonuses an American thing? sounds like a really tricky cheap way to screw over your workforce by having a "bonus" that you may or may not get but was probably taken from your original salary package. It can be a neat way to dangle money over people to keep them around, while keeping on the books pay lower. Where I’m at, they started a bonus to retain people after a bunch of people left. It was intended as a short term thing until some consulting company could finish a pay review. What happened is the consultants said to pay more, but leadership liked the bonus as it could be canceled and if someone quit they didn’t have to pay it. But, they now have a riding the tiger situation where the bonus is 100% expected, and the moment it’s not there, people will bail.
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Aug 25, 2021 15:36
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Lascivious Sloth posted:are bonuses an American thing? sounds like a really tricky cheap way to screw over your workforce by having a "bonus" that you may or may not get but was probably taken from your original salary package. What? No, not at all, seems pretty common in most professional environments. You have your fixed salary plus a variable part that can depend on the comoany, team, or individual performance. YMMV obviously but here you get at least a 100% unless you gently caress up massively. Plus stock grants and other stuff designed to improve retention. Then for revenue generating roles you might have direct target bonuses or straight up commission.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:One of the places I applied to and then interviewed for was offering a fairly decent bonus for people with my certification. They sent me the job offer today and shock and surprise, in the fine print, there was no bonus. A friend of mine got a job where they were told that the contract would be available on the first day. Surprise, surprise, the actual salary was lower than what they'd offered. On the upside, it turned out to be only the first warning of how that workplace ran. Bonuses can be bogus or genuine. Sometimes, like you say, they can be dangled as incentives that you'll never get. In other workplaces, it's almost just a standard part of your renumeration.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:are bonuses an American thing? sounds like a really tricky cheap way to screw over your workforce by having a "bonus" that you may or may not get but was probably taken from your original salary package. Well, no-bonuses is a union thing. Bonuses are a pretty obvious way to get workers fighting each other instead of supporting each other. The Mises institute's opinion on it is worth reading for the comical amount of mustache twirling https://mises.org/library/why-unions-oppose-pay-incentives Dongsturm fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 25, 2021 |
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Until my current job, I had never had bonuses as part of any compensation package. I honestly think I'd prefer to have no bonus and higher overall pay. Its just a bullshit way to try and "inspire" the masses to slave away.
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Aug 25, 2021 17:05
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Gin_Rummy posted:Until my current job, I had never had bonuses as part of any compensation package. I honestly think I'd prefer to have no bonus and higher overall pay. Its just a bullshit way to try and "inspire" the masses to slave away. I get paid pretty good so I cant complain, but it is some bullshit.
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Aug 25, 2021 17:15
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And a means to tie your benefits to the company profits, profits that might be slim because they've disappeared into the other company that actually owns all the assets and took a huge slice of the business income in loan repayments and dividends.
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Aug 25, 2021 17:21
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nonathlon posted:A friend of mine got a job where they were told that the contract would be available on the first day. Surprise, surprise, the actual salary was lower than what they'd offered. On the upside, it turned out to be only the first warning of how that workplace ran. This is truly despicable. Huge red flag.
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Aug 25, 2021 17:33
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If thats not illegal, it should be. Thats essentially a guilt trip bait and switch because people that need jobs aren't going to be the ones to fight this because they need money.
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Aug 25, 2021 17:39
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My current job actually has a good bonus structure that they've kept good on for the whole of their history, but that stuff is a rarity. Also, anyplace that tries to group "bonuses" into your base rate is just lowballing you.
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My bonuses are essentially a second order vested benefit schedule. Because bonuses aren't calculated and distributed (at least to us lower level folks) until a project is 100% finished and filed away, and since I'm near the front of the food chain, my check could come up to 2 years after the last time I ever even thought about the project. lol
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Aug 25, 2021 18:19
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RDM posted:It's also a bullshit way to make leaving more expensive. My bonus is for the calendar year but isn't paid out till May - if you quit before the bonus, you don't get it. If you quit after the bonus, you worked for half a year but won't get next year's bonus for it. That's just a lovely rule/employer, the annual bonuses are in May as well but they're part of the ATC so if you quit earlier they're prorated appropriately and paid out with the las paycheck
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Aug 25, 2021 18:29
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Bonuses are loving dope. My comp package gives me a bonus 45% of my overall salary if our targets are hit. More if we exceed our targets. I've never not gotten a bonus. Then again I work in the financial sector and we basically print money. YMMV.
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Buddy’s company had no funds for raises or bonuses. Boss’s 3rd wife was using his email and accidentally CCed the company when trying to offer his mistress six figures to go away.
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Aug 25, 2021 18:39
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The only time I got a bonus it was equal to my merit raise that year. 3.5% 
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RDM posted:It's also a bullshit way to make leaving more expensive. My bonus is for the calendar year but isn't paid out till May - if you quit before the bonus, you don't get it. If you quit after the bonus, you worked for half a year but won't get next year's bonus for it. Hilariously, a dude I know who left the company last year got a bonus check six months or so after he left lol
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I get 10% of my salary as a bonus at the end of February. Company performance determines what percentage of the bonus everyone is getting. For example, 2016 was a really good year for the company, so we actually got 168% of our bonus in 2017, which translated to 16.8% for me. Every other year it's been 100%, except for last year, which was 95%. There's also an individual assessment where your boss can try to get you a smidgen more (or less, if you truly blow rear end). It's not awful, but like pretty much anyone else, I'd rather just have my salary be 10% more than it really is.
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Aug 25, 2021 19:29
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Somfin posted:Turns out it's cheaper to pay for bulk health insurance than it is to lose half your staff every time a cough starts going around because your loving employees can't afford the time off to go see the doctor! I posted about it before but I worked for a modular home company that didn’t give sick time and lost more hours in a week than they would have in a year when there was a norovirus outbreak because someone came in sick. As far as bonuses go, it’s interesting to see how Amazon structured theirs (and the stock) because it’s all built around their average 18 month tenure for management and support teams. Big ol’ sign on up front with a year-long clawback to keep you there for at least a year. There’s a year 2 bonus that’s smaller (but not by much)… this one’s paid our monthly, though, so when you bail they don’t have to pay back anything. Stocks, you vest 5 percent on year one and 10 percent at 18 months. This is likely not going to add up to one whole share, since your allotment is usually “25k divided by the stock price”. At two years you’ll probably get a share but most people don’t make it that far, and they certainly don’t last past there where it really starts racking up.
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Yeah, we get bonuses which are linked to targets; if you hit your targets per quarter, you get a percentage of your salary on top, and it’s great. And if you miss a quarter, but make the year, you get that quarter paid as if you had made it. They are also prorated so if you leave mid quarter, you still get a percentage of your bonus.
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Look at these people who get yearly “bonuses” and “raises.” Never seen one, I don’t think they exist.
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I got a $50 gift card one time from my company
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Somfin posted:Turns out it's cheaper to pay for bulk health insurance than it is to lose half your staff every time a cough starts going around because your loving employees can't afford the time off to go see the doctor! New Zealand Health insurance isn't even that expensive as all the serious stuff (cancer treatment, major surgery) is covered by the healthcare system. In most cases the big advantage is you don't wait for 6 months to a year for minor surgeries (hernia operations) and your GP visits are paid (savings between $30 to $60 a visit). Its still a good thing for a company to offer (especially if dental is included) as its nice to have that additional backstop.
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Steakandchips posted:This is truly despicable. Huge red flag. Moustache-twirlingly. As said, it was the first in a series of red flags: * Keep the contract back until starting day, when a lower salary was revealed (and my friend has moved city for the job) * Insisted everyone was at their desk by 9 o'clock (most people caught the train and it arrived at the local station at 5 minutes after the hour) * And everyone will finish at 5. No working back or flexible hours * That work we said you were going to do? Well, we've had some different ideas * And it won't be a team, just you * And you'll take your lunch at 12:30 and eat lunch with your colleagues, sitting at this table ... Complete power trip. The thing that broke my friends will and lead him to quit without a job to go to, was that the train was out for a day due to maintainance on the lines. So the boss made an official announcement that rather than work from home, everyone had to take a day of vacation.
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My boss held a "manpurse has worked here 10 years" event for our team and didn't invite me. Then phoned me, asking where I was. I was on vacation that week.
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 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/work-from-home-benefits/619597/
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Gin_Rummy posted:Hilariously, a dude I know who left the company last year got a bonus check six months or so after he left lol Always check with whatever your local government's unclaimed property office is for $ that belongs to you and people you like. e.g. for Texas it's https://claimittexas.org/ It's a nice experience to call up a friend or relative and say "Hey Aunt P, did you know you have $1,600 in municipal bond interest payments gathering dust?"
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My aunt was an exec for a long time and mentioned that her former company (big trucking/transpo Corp) is forcing every office worker back in ASAP cause they discovered like half of their middle management had been working 2 jobs for years. Like the exact same job, as in pre-covid, they were district managers at two different companies and pulling in 2 six-figure salaries. For years.
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