Steve Yun posted:

okay so the 39% Israeli efficacy numbers were apparently a math denominator mistake

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1420059129008336905?s=21

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1420059135756881926?s=21

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1420059139435343876?s=21

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1420106467672268803?s=21



so… VE might have actually been 89% instead?

triple sulk posted:

covid is over

McNugget Buddy posted:

This is from July

He's rules lawyering that you should only count vaccine efficacy in highly vaccinated cities since apparently the rest of Israel doesn't matter

Of course highly vaccinated cities are going to have less cases

Sphyre posted:

10 breakthrough cases of delta in nz

Schnorkles posted:

good..??

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Six states — Hawaii, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon and Washington — as well as Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia require most people to wear masks in indoor public places, whether or not they have been vaccinated against COVID-19. California, Connecticut, Illinois and New York have indoor mask mandates that extend only to the unvaccinated.

On Aug. 27, Oregon will become the first state to reimpose a face-covering requirement for people in outdoor public settings.

Zurtilik posted:

Kentucky has a mask mandate for public schools as well. So it will probably be even worse in other states.

Yeehaw!

cr0y posted:

How the gently caress do we still not have decent efficacy numbers

Chamale posted:

BeHealthyUSA is completely out of kids' masks. My dad is finally convinced to get a proper mask for my half-sister, are there any sites that have good masks for kids and ship to Canada?

Edit: Looks like Bonafide Masks has them in stock, I just wasn't seeing them on the site at first

DarkCrawler posted:

I don't understand, the rural areas in my country are more vaccinated due to having less people and more olds, why would Israel be any different?

SKULL.GIF posted:

Asproigerosis posted:

Millions of Americans are going to die. I am sad.

McNugget Buddy posted:

Any state where the governor implements a statewide indoor mask mandate is cool

AARP is keeping track of the cool states

https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-living/info-2020/states-mask-mandates-coronavirus.html

Lots of uncool states

mod sassinator posted:

holy shitballs, 1/3 of new cases in kentucky are in kids. i.. uh.. hope that doesn't become a national trend

McNugget Buddy posted:

How does one buy stock in shovels

quote:

New York, July 16, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Reportlinker.com announces the release of the report "Global Cadaver Bags Industry" - https://www.reportlinker.com/p05896564/?utm_source=GNW
6 Million by 2027, growing at a CAGR of 6.8% over the analysis period 2020-2027. PVC, one of the segments analyzed in the report, is projected to record a 7.2% CAGR and reach US$441.3 Million by the end of the analysis period. After an early analysis of the business implications of the pandemic and its induced economic crisis, growth in the Polyethylene segment is readjusted to a revised 6.9% CAGR for the next 7-year period.

The U.S. Market is Estimated at $235.5 Million, While China is Forecast to Grow at 6.8% CAGR

The Cadaver Bags market in the U.S. is estimated at US$235.5 Million in the year 2020. China, the world`s second largest economy, is forecast to reach a projected market size of US$45 Million by the year 2027 trailing a CAGR of 6.8% over the analysis period 2020 to 2027. Among the other noteworthy geographic markets are Japan and Canada, each forecast to grow at 5.9% and 7% respectively over the 2020-2027 period. Within Europe, Germany is forecast to grow at approximately 6.3% CAGR.

Asproigerosis posted:

Millions of Americans are going to die. I am sad.

Covok posted:

Rationally injecting horse paste up my rear end in a top hat.

Real Mean Queen posted:

If you're on this particular comedy forum for communists, you've very likely got the kind of brain that can deal with lifelong horror stories and still crack some jokes, and that means you're durable. You're pretty comfortable second guessing the official story about how great America is doing. You're in the only age range that really gets how the internet works so you're not getting all your news from facebook or tiktok. You're on a fairly obscure website in the first place, so you know how to dig for stuff. You believe in your heart that there could and should be a better world, and this makes it so that you can't ever really say "gently caress it, I'm just gonna tune the rest of this out."

Basically I think this thread works as well as it does because it has a bunch of totally randomly acquired barriers of entry to get to it, and those barriers just happen to add up to a filter that selects people who are uniquely good at screaming about covid for prolonged periods without fully breaking down, and who are ideologically predisposed to trying to take care of each other. This weird social evolution on computers produced a durable, smart group who want to work together, and that's a strong set of attributes no matter what you're trying to get done.

Impkins Patootie posted:

Ruggan posted:

first time I’ve seen someone make ramen in a toilet…

Ruggan posted:

first time I’ve seen someone make ramen in a toilet…

Chamale posted:

A Gin Palace posted:

late but my school is giving everyone who gets vaccinated $125. that's not enough for like even a single freshman chemistry textbook but whatever. yeehaw texas

A Gin Palace posted:

First day of the new college semester!!!!!! woooooo superspreader event let's goooooo

i give it 3 weeks max before my university shuts down and goes online again. our uni subreddit (i know, i know) is saying the uni is probably waiting until tuition and housing cost is locked in so people have to give them money to cancel in person classes, because university administrators care more about money than anything else

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Flu usually kills about .1% of people and its something we've been fine with. Covid is at about 2% in the general population in the US and close to flu level in vaccinated people.
Like "if it saves lives we should lockdown" could apply to flu season as well, and honestly there are better public policy efforts that could be taken instead, especially in a county like the US with next to no social safety net.

But people have smothered that discussion in the crib with moral outrage that we might apply a cost benefit analysis to something.

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At what rate does significant health problems become a motivating factor though? If we can agree that covid and the flu have different but existent side effect rates post infection, there is a point where your risk tolerance has placed "its ok to lock down here, but might be excessive to lock down there". Especially now with vaccinated cases showing signs of greatly lowering severity of both the disease and long covid symptoms.

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My kid (7, now 8) has been back in person sing the second semester of last year, the covid fear kinda sucks but the social isolation of a full year of school was definitely taking its toll on her mental health. If a vaccine was available we'd get one, but the risk of her dying from the disease is incredibly remote at that age and the car ride to school is probably equally as dangerous.

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I’m just asking where on the line between flu/h1n1 and covid is a more serious response justified and below it it is not? Is that a question that can be asked?

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imagine a hypothetical third disease that’s not as deadly as covid but deadlier than the flu. There’s a point most people can agree we aren’t shutting things down, despite the suffering and harm this hypothetical disease might cause if it’s not sufficiently bad enough. It has nothing to do with minimizing covid as the flu.

mod sassinator posted:

holy shitballs, 1/3 of new cases in kentucky are in kids. i.. uh.. hope that doesn't become a national trend

gradenko_2000 posted:

imagine a *cough* hypothetical third *cough* disease that’s not as deadly as covid but *cough, cough* deadlier than the flu. There’s a point most people can agree we aren’t shutting things down, despite the suffering and harm this *violent coughing* hypothetical disease might cause if it’s not sufficiently bad enough. It has nothing to do with minimizing covid as the flu. *cough*

Crazyweasel posted:

the government suggesting 6 month boosters is not to save lives, the vaccine after 6 months is still very effective at that.

it’s because they got so loving hard at the idea of a 80% VE-against-infection vaccine being “close enough” to sterilizing immunity that they decided we will open Biden in perpetuity, and so people need those boosters so that the surge back to 80%+ VE will once again be good enough to not have to mandate any NPIs or shut down Applebee’s
or do more than cry about a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” as kids continue to count less than farmed minks or some poo poo

e: also so they don’t have to go through the taxing mental process of approving a delta vax instead of just boosting with wild type or whatever

Atrocious Joe posted:

Do not use in horses intended for human consumption.

Do not use in horses. Intended for human consumption!

Crazyweasel posted:

e: also so they don’t have to go through the taxing mental process of approving a delta vax instead of just boosting with wild type or whatever

Rick posted:

I'm now on my second respirator purchase of the last month and I already had one. That 3m clicky gots me saying "but yeah what about when I only need the mask for the period I'mm picking up food from the drive-thru window" so I got a 6500OL (helps that I accidentally bought the wrong filters for the click at first so I now have some other filters begging to be used). I started using my Cambridge masks again when delta popped up but that's hard to breathe in, and I almost like breathing in the respirator (that might be more of a commentary about how bad my lungs are at the moment in general (rips @ me))

I am hoping that zoomers not understanding the internet is just right now they are doing cooler things and when they have 3 kids and a mortgage they will have their own forums to post in (I mean I would welcome them here but I doubt they will want to post with a bunch of literal grandparents by that point; I mean my grandpa actually was a pretty early adopter and gets the net just fine but we don't ever go to the same spaces in a post AOL world. It does go to your point though that having been a 90s internet user he still mostly has his head with how to process information on the net, whereas my mom has gone nuts and my stepmom is like a prototype MAGA anyway).

Your post is good.