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Fuschia tude posted:Even Tobias could use some bird morphs for things like this. He could morph mid-air and probably no one on the ground would ever notice. I'm sure Tobias has Opinions about geese.
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Even though its dumb and non tactical, part of the appeal/characterisation of certain characters is the morphs they use.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:11 |
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Chapter 17quote:Ax merged with the gulls screaming and wheeling overhead. Honestly, I feel like this is probably not going to shape up as the greatest military triumph of the Yeerk Empire. I will say that, for once, Chapman's presence makes sense. Helping save a beached whale is a very Sharing public activity, and Chapman is an adult advisor of the Sharing, so....makes more sense than him showing up on a construction team to salvage a crashed Bug fighter, at least. Chapter 18 quote:<That’s just sad,> Tobias said. <Controllers reduced to throwing rocks. Hey, a couple of you need to chase me. You know, chase me away.> So, I get that because of the rigged lot drawing back there, Rachel and Tobias were going to turn into sperm whales, but Cassie was right there next to Rachel, and it's not like she's going to get that sort of opportunity again, so why not acquire the sperm whale? Also, just as a technical thing, I like the writing in this chapter, especially the meditation on the ocean, as well as the ironic understatement afterwards of the exchange between Rachel and Tobias, and also Rachel's self doubt, and the great line, after she realized that she got Tobias into this with her, "And I was supposed to like him." I just think this chapter is very well written, in both what it says and doesn't say. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Agreed, "and I was supposed to like him" is a really good line.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 05:08 |
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There's a lot of creepy stuff in this series but one of the only things that ever actually really spooked me as a kid was the ocean stuff in this one. The whole idea of the depths and the darkness later, but even now - gently caress floating around as a human in the open ocean and especially gently caress doing it at night-time. Nice stroke of luck that the Chee happened to stow the Pemalite ship right off the coast of their hometown, though. Just turn left at the secret city of ancient Atlantis mutants
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Chapter 19quote:Big. Bigger. Enormous. Spermaceti is this waxy substance found in cavities of the sperm whale's head. One of the theories about it (the one that's mentioned here) is it aids in a sperm whale's buoyancy...that when the sperm whale gets water into its head cavities, that causes the spermaceti to harden and helps the whale dive, but then to surface, it can expel the water, heat the spermaceti, and that will help it surface. Another theory is that it doesn't actually have anything to do with buoyancy; that instead, the cavities help with echolocation. What isn't debated, though, is that spermaceti was big business and it's why whalers so prized sperm whales. There's a lot of it in the whale, up to 500 gallons in a full grown one, and sperm oil, as it was called, could be used for heat and light. And also, the confidence of the sperm whale is pretty well placed. However, they do have natural predators. Killer whales and false killer whales will attack them, and so, sometimes will sharks. Pilot whales have been known to attack sperm whales, but they're too small to do any actual damage. Chapter 20 quote:We arched our backs and sounded, slipping silently down into the living sea. We descended quickly, echolocating past shelves and hollows, our sonar drawing us sketchy, uncertain pictures. It's a good description of just how claustrophobic the bottom of the ocean can feel. Also, Tobias and Rachel are discussing their relationship issues, in the most young teen way possible, by getting dramatic.
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Chapter 21quote:I kicked hard, every muscle in my massive body straining, desperate now. Desperate! 60 feet is probably too long for a giant squid, but there are estimates that female giant squids can get up to 45 feet. Chapter 22 quote:A whip in the darkness. I never saw it corning. It slapped against me, gripping, hugging, holding. I mean, congrats to Tobias.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 04:34 |
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Sphere is a good sci-fi book
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 06:53 |
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More evidence for the "Tobias owns" collection.
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Chapter 23quote:I kept the now-helpless squid on the surface as Jake, Cassie, Marco, Ax, and finally Tobias acquired it. It wasn’t easy. It wasn’t exactly a party, as human and Andalite and hawk wallowed in the waves, pressing hands and talons against the rubbery creature. As Rachel pointed out earlier, giant squids are cannibalistic. Chapter 24 quote:Someone was turned away from me. Another giant squid, floating, arms extended like some vile flower. I saw the mantle. Because their day isn't bad enough.
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# ? Aug 23, 2021 04:25 |
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I would've liked a look inside the squid mind. I don't know if it was widely known back when this series was written, but cephalopod nervous systems are weird; their tentacles more or less have their own minds...
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# ? Aug 23, 2021 04:33 |
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quote:<Two of your hours and seven of your minutes> Ax said. Lol Ax owns
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# ? Aug 23, 2021 06:53 |
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It's cool when you aren't sure if Ax is being a superior and logical Andalite or a dumb teen annoying his friends.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 02:22 |
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I stand by my opinion that Ax is funny as hell.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 03:09 |
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Ax absolutely understands human humor and just pretends not too for fun. He's too consistently funny for it to be an accident.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 04:08 |
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Sadly, Ax's humor and undersea Animorph adventures will have to wait until tomorrow. Sorry I can't post tonight.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 04:38 |
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Pwnstar posted:More evidence for the "Tobias owns" collection. There are no counterexamples freebooter posted:Lol Ax owns Yeah I remember this whole sequence. I kept expecting Marco to say that all series long. I remember this point of no return, too.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 09:42 |
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Being a comedic genius and pretending you have absolutely no idea what human humour is is a power move.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 14:44 |
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Epicurius posted:Sadly, Ax's humor and undersea Animorph adventures will have to wait until tomorrow. Sorry I can't post tonight. In one of your nights
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 00:21 |
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pile of brown posted:In one of your nights They're everybody''s nights, pile of brown.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 02:02 |
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Waiting for the reveal at the end of the books when it turns out Andalite time is the exact same as earth time and Ax has been loving with them since (one of your earth's) day one.
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Honestly Ax is either loving with them on an epic scale or just genuinely that oblivious and I don't know which would be better
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Chapter 25quote:<I do not think the odds favor us,> Ax said with cool understatement. I feel like we haven't really seen Visser Three in a while . I know he was in the Extreme, but he didn't really do much in it. Also, Ax is showing his Andalite condescension here. Is he right? Maybe. We know that the Howler weapons blew up a lot of Pemalite infrastructure, but what finally killed them was a biological attack. Also, Disney's first cruise ship was the Disney Magic, which first sailed on July 30, 1998, about 6 months before this book went on sale. You can still sail on the Disney Magic. In fact, if you're a UK resident, it's leaving Southhampton for a 2 day "out to see cruise on Monday, so book your cruise now, I guess. Chapter 26 quote:<They don’t have the code,> Cassie said. I don't know why, but whenever I read the Drode, I hear him with the voice of Paul Lynde. No idea why, because Paul Lynde was, to the best of my knowledge, not an evil lizardman, but, I still do. Also, keep in mind the "There's always a way left for you" thing. Crayak has to follow the same rules as the Ellimist. He can seduce, he can advise, he can warn, but he can't force them to do anything or physically harm them, and he has to at least give them a chance out of any traps he puts them in. Also, the Drode knows them well enough to strike at their insecurities and fears.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 03:18 |
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Man I love evil trickster figures
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 04:12 |
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Oh wow, yeah I don't think I've read this book before. What a perfectly delightful rear end in a top hat!
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 05:10 |
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I don't remember the Drode being introduced in this book, and pacing-wise it feels really off - it would've made more sense to have him reveal himself to them near the start and lay out the stakes while they're hand-wringing over the near-impossible mission and while the weirdness of the unnoticed mall escape and whale washing up was still present. It feels bizarre to pause to do it just as the Yeerks arrive for the climax. Anyway, quote:<Where is the bridge?> Ax demanded. Lol Ax owns (Also, re: "your" minutes - I think the non-joke answer is that it's a mark of Andalite arrogance, i.e. they are "your" minutes not "real" or "proper" minutes, in the same way that some Americans believe they don't have an accent.)
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freebooter posted:Lol Ax owns I think it's probably a little bit of both. I think it's likely Andalites don't use minutes, but he knows humans do, so he's converting time to local measurements and referring to it as "7 of your minutes" vs "72 gleebles" or whatever Andalites use. So I think that's initially why he did it. Now he knows this annoys Marco. This is why he continues to do it.
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Chapter 27quote:<It won’t take them long to get here. They’ll be here in a -> I started to say. So, that's ominous, isn't it? I also like how polite the Pemalite ship is. Also, I bet Erek is going to have to clean the ship up of all the mess. But serious question. We saw in the last chapter that the Drode attacks you at your insecurities. He brings up Marco's mom, he brings up the idea that Tobias is afraid to be human, he brings up that Cassie, for all she says she's a pacifist, seems pretty ready to kill, he brings up Ax's guilt about his brother's death, etc, which is all stuff the Animorphs worry about. That being said, the Drode hasn't actually lied. So is he right in what he says to Rachel? Is she more naturally on team Crayak? Chapter 28 quote:The Pemalite ship carefully, politely, regretfully, packed the Yeerks, including a furiously enraged Visser Three, back into their modified Bug fighters. And so Rachel swears off romantic movie dates to stay loyal to her hawk boyfriend. So, what did people think about this book? I can understand people not liking it. There's pretty much no character agency in it....everything that happens is set up by the Drode so he can....I dunno, have a conversation with Rachel on the ship. And it ends with a literal deus ex machina....the ship stops the fighting and kicks them out. So plotwise, I can see people not liking it. But that being said, I kind of do. I think it has some really good writing. Plus, we meet the Drode, and he's fun in an evil sort of way. So what did you think? Next book is an Ax book, book 28, The Experiment, ghostwritten by Amy Garvey, and it's a book to have a conversation about. But that's starting toorrow.
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Epicurius posted:So plotwise, I can see people not liking it. But that being said, I kind of do. I think it has some really good writing. Plus, we meet the Drode, and he's fun in an evil sort of way. So what did you think? It isn't perfect overall, but it has some great moments, and the characterization works even if the agency isn't there. Plus, I have a certain amount of affection for it since it's, IMO, Rachel's last good/decent book.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 04:12 |
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Epicurius posted:Chapter 27 This author's a big Doom fan, huh? quote:So, what did people think about this book? I can understand people not liking it. There's pretty much no character agency in it....everything that happens is set up by the Drode so he can....I dunno, have a conversation with Rachel on the ship. And it ends with a literal deus ex machina....the ship stops the fighting and kicks them out. That said, the book was pretty well-written, regardless. I guess the bad ghostwritten books come later.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 05:15 |
Crayak and Ellimist setting up entire scenarios is fine with me, especially when you have Drodey rolling up just to snipe at them. It might be bullshit, but I'm OK with that.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 06:13 |
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I thought this one was pretty fun. Felt like a standard animorphs book.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 06:20 |
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I like it and think it's one of the better ghostwritten books. The stakes are really high and the horror of having to go into the dark ocean depths is really well done.disaster pastor posted:It isn't perfect overall, but it has some great moments, and the characterization works even if the agency isn't there. Plus, I have a certain amount of affection for it since it's, IMO, Rachel's last good/decent book. I was about to say that surely she has one in the final arc, but I checked and she only gets one in that weird period where the arc has begun but they're still doing monster-of-the-week plots, and hers is the dreadful one where David comes back. Yep, this is her last good/decent book.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 06:34 |
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I'd always kinda read the Drode as something feminine. Anyway, I remember reading this book and really liking it as a kid, mostly owing to the Drode being present just to jeer and be rude in the middle of this fight.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 07:19 |
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Hooray, we're half way through the series (if you don't count the side books)!
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 07:31 |
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The Drode is a fun character, certainly moreso than Crayak, but despite my deep love for the Ellimist Chronicles the transfer of the very human-focused Yeerk conflict to this war between godlike beings is just less interesting. I think the books veer back to that for a while though. I did think the terror in the sea elements were well done, but ultimately the whole thing ended silly.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 08:25 |
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It's a little strange to have two Ellimist/Cryak books in a row. Both involving the Cree even. Narratively, if feels like these should be spaced out more. I guess you could justify it as Cryak really taking the loss hard and immediately jumping to a revenge plot, throwing all long term planning to the wind. He didn't like the game, so time to smash the toys.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 13:35 |
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My conclusion is that this book wound up with very little actually happening. The whale and squid are two hella specialized morphs that probably won't ever come up again, and the Pemalite ship has been removed from the equation. It's filler. Decent, enjoyable enough filler.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 14:34 |
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Bobulus posted:It's a little strange to have two Ellimist/Cryak books in a row. Both involving the Cree even. Narratively, if feels like these should be spaced out more. Yeah, that's the way I feel about it. I am also not too keen on the whole Ellimist/Cryak subplot, but since it doesn't come up too often, I am fine with it. But too in a row are a little too much, since it does take away the focus from the invasion.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 14:41 |
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The "how the heck do we get down there" whale and squid chain is pretty cool, the rest was a meh but alright. That said, I think this is setting up for Megamorphs 3 with the Drode/more Crayak stuff and which is coming soon and I remember being incredibly wild and should hopefully be fun to see again.
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