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Rigged Death Trap posted:Yeah every single time thus far, Jaggs wins. Its not stated how long jaggs has known, or how many loops it took him to realize it, but it may be one of the things different about this loop. Yeah that's my point though. His stated purpose is to escape the loop and his plan is to keep doing the same thing he knows he's done every single time. Its a bad plan that makes no sense.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 07:16 |
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Jagganoth might be very smart, but all of his intelligence and cunning have been oriented for the sole purpose of killing to the exclusion of all other paths for longer than most civilizations have existed.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 07:23 |
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Jagganoth might be very smart, but all of his intelligence and cunning have been oriented for the sole purpose of killing to the exclusion of all other paths for longer than most multiverses have existed.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 07:29 |
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Groundhog day but Bill's an unfathomably powerful being made up entirely of swords.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 16:15 |
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Guildenstern Mother posted:So Jaggs does this every time the heir gets to a certain level of power for reasons (?), which leads to the outcome of the wheel resetting. And his plan is to keep doing this in order to keep the wheel from resetting? Is he getting stronger each time or something and if he does it a few thousand more times he can finally do something useful? Is that the plan? He has done that in every iteration of reality and then had his memory all but erased This is the first time (in his mind) that he put all the pieces together, and he believes that the anomaly Allison could give him the power to enact actual change (i.e. getting rid of the farce that Zoss has maintained for eons) Now, whether or not Jaggs' perception of what is truth has been doctored or not, or whether he is even remembering the full picture, is a different story
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 16:31 |
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Yeah I still don't think we know what is different about this cycle from Jags perspective. His plan doesn't make any sense based on what we do know, but what we know is almost certainly wrong, as is what Jags knows. Are we sure hes actually tried to destroy everything before, or were his previous attempts maybe ways of conquest instead of omnicide?
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 17:26 |
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I don't get where 'Jaggs has tried this before' comes from, or how his plan doesn't make sense He's just the unbeatable warrior that ends up killing the heirs. He's always the one that's left when Zoss' plan fails and then a reset happens. I'd be pissed too if I was used for eternity
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 17:39 |
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Guildenstern Mother posted:Yeah that's my point though. His stated purpose is to escape the loop and his plan is to keep doing the same thing he knows he's done every single time. Its a bad plan that makes no sense. His plan is to do it enough times that he overflows an integer and breaks reality
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 17:45 |
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isn't the main difference in this iteration the fact he knows metatron lives
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 17:56 |
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like he wants to key to kill metatron. allison didn't give him the key so now he has to kill the demiurges. which is what he usually ends up doing, sure, but he wants to kill metatron, too.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:05 |
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If Jagg kills the demiurges doesn't he inherit their keys too?
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:16 |
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i fail to see how jagganoth is any different from all these other assholes doing the same poo poo over and over again even though he knows it doesnt work SURELY this time someone will draw blood from me. SURELY this time ill finish the count. SURELY this time ill destroy the wheel.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:17 |
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paranoid randroid posted:i fail to see how jagganoth is any different from all these other assholes doing the same poo poo over and over again even though he knows it doesnt work after decades of study i have come to the conclusion this is what writers call a "theme"
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:22 |
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paranoid randroid posted:i fail to see how jagganoth is any different from all these other assholes doing the same poo poo over and over again even though he knows it doesnt work As far as he knows (or his memory allows him to know), this is the first time in ever he's had the agency and opportunity to do this
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:23 |
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paranoid randroid posted:i fail to see how jagganoth is any different from all these other assholes doing the same poo poo over and over again even though he knows it doesnt work Jagganoth is the Mario that has realized he's played this game thousands or millions of times already. He still has no choice but to play his part, but thinks he knows how to glitch the game so he can be free of it. The others are blissfully unaware that any of this has happened before. Except Zoss, he definitely knows and he keeps trying to do the same thing with very slight differences hoping that this will be the time when it actually works.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:31 |
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Jadis knows more than anyone and is trapped by it.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:38 |
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packetmantis posted:If Jagg kills the demiurges doesn't he inherit their keys too? They follow Highlander rules, yeah. But I don't think he'll get any new/different/stronger power from theirs, the king key is the one what would be an upgrade for him.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 18:57 |
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i mean whats a guy made of swords gonna get from incubus' key? the power to be a stinkier sword boy?
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 19:00 |
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FuturePastNow posted:They follow Highlander rules, yeah. But I don't think he'll get any new/different/stronger power from theirs, the king key is the one what would be an upgrade for him. the individual keys give power over a single universe but only the key of Kings grants power over the wheel itself i think it's possible we don't understand everything about this story
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 19:38 |
If he's capable of getting the demiurge keys, which I'm pretty sure he has to actively grab, he still gets their power and if he gets all six he will have the other words beyond just sword. It's a faximile of the real key which he cannot get without being actually royal
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 19:42 |
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Victis posted:As far as he knows (or his memory allows him to know), this is the first time in ever he's had the agency and opportunity to do this I didn't get that from the comic at all, but its possible I missed something.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 19:50 |
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here are the bats you ordered
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 20:31 |
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SniperWoreConverse posted:If he's capable of getting the demiurge keys, which I'm pretty sure he has to actively grab, he still gets their power and if he gets all six he will have the other words beyond just sword. It's a faximile of the real key which he cannot get without being actually royal The seven lesser keys don't contain the true name of god, though, so I think the only power he'd gain from them is the ability to turn more gates on and off. If he wants hands on the wheel, he needs the one
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 20:33 |
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Incubus in that one panel is so fuckin funny. What a stinky man.
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 20:34 |
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Guildenstern Mother posted:I didn't get that from the comic at all, but its possible I missed something. Yeah same lmao AFAIK everything we know is:
What I would say we probably know:
What we don't know:
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NO COLLUSION
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 22:22 |
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Kalli posted:Groundhog day but Bill's an unfathomably powerful being made up entirely of swords. That's just groundhog day
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 22:26 |
Don't drive angry
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 23:38 |
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Cowcaster posted:here are the bats you ordered I don't really get the impression from these that this is the first cycle he's had this realization.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 02:06 |
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God incubus is so pathetic. First is the fact he even needs a sword and the other is that he didn't realize Mammon was right there until everyone else started popping their limit breaks.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 02:58 |
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Guildenstern Mother posted:I don't really get the impression from these that this is the first cycle he's had this realization. Thats one of the things we dont know. But thinking of it more, would it change anything? Jaggs will use the one tool he knows and is willing to use, every time. Regardless of how much he knows.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 10:39 |
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It's like the old saying, when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 10:41 |
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Seeing as Jaggs doesn't control the time loops, and is convinced he and the others are all bound to roles in a monomyth, it may very well be that if he attempted to gently caress off and sell noodles instead of being one of the final(?) bosses, everything gets reset til he pursues omnicide like a good boy.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 11:37 |
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Zoss did Featherine give you the curse to reset the wheel for all eternity?
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 11:44 |
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1431337787853258753?s=20 At least Cio has sensible motivations
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 20:29 |
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See? She's fine. Everything is fine.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 20:31 |
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Yeah, all the other Demiurges are also being pulled out of the water by their besties.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 20:33 |
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Wait, WC doesn't have the same injuries in War for Ryuba, does she? This kind of looks like all we need for an End of Evangelion reference on the next page is a giant melting Gog face in the sky.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 20:35 |
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Once again, Cio dives in to rescue Alison.
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# ? Aug 27, 2021 20:37 |
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Can Cio reclaim her eye/arm if she upgrades her mask again?
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