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Populon posted:Should I watch the remake of legend of galactic heroes or is it poo poo? start with the movies My Conquest is the Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War.
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Mecha Gojira posted:start with the movies My Conquest is the Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War. I watched the movies and the original before and loved it, I just didn't know if the modern version was worth watching
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Aug 29, 2021 00:00
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It's basically just a shinier update of the original. Not bad if you want huge, lavish space battles, at least.
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Aug 29, 2021 00:32
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I thought the space battles in the new LoGH didn't quite capture the scale that the older version had - the ships are all CG so there's lots of opportunities to show then swooshing dramatically across the screen, but that belies their scale. The stills and slow, ponderous animation of the original lent a certain weight and heft to the battle segments that I prefer. For example, in the original first few episodes when Yang counters Reinhardt's attack by makining the fleets circle one another to force a stalemate, most of the shots show either the whole battle at a great distance, where the fleets are basically dust clouds, or via the tactical displays that the commanders see. In the new version, the ships are basically turbo drifting across the screen in glorious CG, and it makes the whole situation feel... smaller.
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Aug 29, 2021 01:20
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Populon posted:I watched the movies and the original before and loved it, I just didn't know if the modern version was worth watching my bad, I missed the 'remake' part of the original post. yeah, I don't know if I want to watch it either. If anything what I want is the original versions of the original episodes without the reanimated bits from the Blu Ray.
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Aug 29, 2021 01:22
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The original didn't have very good space battles if I'm being honest. They didn't really capture a good sense of frontage or motion unless it was abstracted through the tactical displays. A lot of times things seemed to just happen for the sake of the plot because it had to. It only really got cool in the up close and personal stuff, like the strike craft segments or the axe fights.
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Aug 29, 2021 01:33
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The original didn't have very good space battles if I'm being honest. They didn't really capture a good sense of frontage or motion unless it was abstracted through the tactical displays. A lot of times things seemed to just happen for the sake of the plot because it had to. It only really got cool in the up close and personal stuff, like the strike craft segments or the axe fights. I guess it's down to personal preference, but I really, really liked the old battles (the strike craft parts WERE loving awesome though). I haven't seen any sci-fi series with fleet battles on this scale - thousands of ships in fleets that can be hundreds of kilometers wide, engaging one another at even more massive distances. The presentation of that might seen static and dull, but it also lends a kind of tension. There's no sense of motion because on an individual scale, there WAS no motion. There's something about the helplessness of any individual ship or participant that made the battles feel more stressful. There's no ace helmsmen or genius captains that are going to make a difference to their crew, you just have to trust in the fleet commander, hold the line and roll the dice. One of those specks of dust in the far distance might have a railgun bolt with your name on it even if you perform your duties perfectly. McKilligan has issued a correction as of 01:56 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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Aug 29, 2021 01:54
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McKilligan posted:I haven't seen any sci-fi series with fleet battles on this scale - thousands of ships in fleets that can be hundreds of kilometers wide, engaging one another at even more massive distances. The presentation of that might seen static and dull, but it also lends a kind of tension. There's no sense of motion because on an individual scale, there WAS no motion. But that's also not really true, because there's a ton of motion going on at the fleet level, which is the real problem. There's a lot of footage of massed ships moving to and fro but no real sense of space or their relation to the environment. They end up having to tell a lot more than they show.
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Aug 29, 2021 02:05
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Aug 29, 2021 05:28
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:logh is good because its 90% guys talking in rooms about the nature of democracy and poo poo, the space battles are like tertiary at best to that Yeah, but 'shinier space battles' is still the main selling point of the remake.
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Aug 29, 2021 13:43
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The shinier space battles don't really add that much to the experience, because the problem is the lack of a sense for scale and motion across the battlefield. It's hard to do this without a visual metaphor and I think this helps illustrate what I'm talking about : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcC_DhBnq0M Now this is just a set piece battle from a Stellaris mod, but it helps to show what I'm talking about. The scale of the fleets along with everything happening at once is coupled with a real sense of their place and motion across the battlefield. Now in Stellaris this is just two big fleets smashing together without any real tactics - but a director could combine this sense of scale while also curating the flow of action. Both versions of LoGH have a problem where they can only show so much due to the limitations of animation. The New Thesis has CGI and over-designed space ships, but it's still zoomed in too close on isolated parts of the battle without any real sense for the big picture.
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Aug 29, 2021 15:26
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McKilligan posted:I guess it's down to personal preference, but I really, really liked the old battles (the strike craft parts WERE loving awesome though). It also made it really clear how horrible, meaningless, and expensive war is. All those battles had hundreds or thousands of ships each crewed by hundreds or thousands of people and they could just be deleted en masse in seconds by a suitably powerful beam cannon. Just an incomprehensibly massive amount of resources and human lives spent to just fire a gun at the enemy a few times
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Aug 29, 2021 17:59
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any saiyans in this show
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Aug 29, 2021 18:10
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there are saiyans in every show, but most of the time they are off-screen powering up and aren't particularly relevant.
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Aug 29, 2021 18:14
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I preferred the battles in the new show but the story is really simplified and suffers for it imo
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Aug 29, 2021 22:24
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The axe fights in The New Thesis suck. The power armors they use look stupid and are way too big to be practical for a boarding action. How are you gonna fit through a bulkhead or a sealed door with that poo poo on? Gimme a break.
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Aug 30, 2021 02:24
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im still sad that Ocean dub of LOGH never took off, that's one series that deserves far more mainstream attention
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Aug 30, 2021 03:25
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https://twitter.com/MMcflies/status/1432931657057591303
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Sep 1, 2021 11:52
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my favorite youtube philosophy guy put out a video about berserk and Nietzsche https://youtu.be/zxTwYdYzw8c
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Sep 2, 2021 17:25
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https://twitter.com/TheOtaking/status/1208476229646438400
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Sep 2, 2021 18:56
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What's the deal with the Berserk guy and his pedo mangas? I hadn't heard of this but it got brought up elsewhere in the forums that he's got at least two really dodgy mangas. I thought he only did berserk Sad! If so coz I really like berserk but now I'm like... That little witch girl who fancies Guts... What's that about
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Sep 2, 2021 19:26
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quote:Based on the success of strong female characters in works like Frozen and Mad Max: Fury Road, Miura saw an androgynous lead character as the next step and decided to "throw a stone at it" with this story.[7]  Miura, died before he could complete the Japanese Realms of the Unreal
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Sep 2, 2021 22:36
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Communist Thoughts posted:What's the deal with the Berserk guy and his pedo mangas? gigantomakhia is about a monster girl that pees on her wrestler friend to turn into a kaiju
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Sep 2, 2021 22:56
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Communist Thoughts posted:What's the deal with the Berserk guy and his pedo mangas? The list of Things Miura Was Horny For is long and not-infrequently disturbing.
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Sep 2, 2021 23:49
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Unlike a lot of other mangakas, he kept it in his drawings though, unless some stuff comes out. Never heard a bad thing about the guy.
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Sep 3, 2021 00:39
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Communist Thoughts posted:What's the deal with the Berserk guy and his pedo mangas? "Look, you're chanting! I'm-going-to-play-idol-master, Ami-is-cute, Ami-is-my-friend"
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Sep 3, 2021 02:57
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watching initial d on hulu for want of white noise on the tv while I work. a defining example of 90% of the entertainment in sport anime being the bombastic treatment of its subject matter
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Sep 3, 2021 06:12
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I love berserk and think muira was one of the greatest mangaka of all time. art, story, paneling. dude excelled at every aspect of manga. he was a pedo though. not joking.
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Sep 3, 2021 06:50
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it was a fairly gradual descent iirc. starts off with regular-rear end women, nothing brow-raising even if he fancied rape scenarios a little too often. then he introduced us to the little witch character then he introduced us to her without any clothes then came the land of giants and the piss loli then... that one manga...
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Sep 3, 2021 06:55
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Office Pig posted:it was a fairly gradual descent iirc. starts off with regular-rear end women, nothing brow-raising even if he fancied rape scenarios a little too often. you are forgetting the always naked moth apostle
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Sep 3, 2021 07:02
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Communist Thoughts posted:Sad! If so coz I really like berserk but now I'm like... That little witch girl who fancies Guts... What's that about It's very simple. The little witch girl fancies Gutts, and there's nothing more to it. 
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Sep 3, 2021 07:22
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Ringo Roadagain posted:you are forgetting the always naked moth apostle i did, but i'm hesitant to throw it into the depravity canon since that all seemed to have some perceptible thematic conceit working in its favor so you could look at it without thinking about which idolmaster game helped speed along the illustrative process through hours of whacking off
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Sep 3, 2021 07:25
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Office Pig posted:it was a fairly gradual descent iirc. starts off with regular-rear end women, nothing brow-raising even if he fancied rape scenarios a little too often. wait, I thought the piss loli was the one bad one?
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Sep 3, 2021 09:32
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Office Pig posted:i did, but i'm hesitant to throw it into the depravity canon since that all seemed to have some perceptible thematic conceit working in its favor so you could look at it without thinking about which idolmaster game helped speed along the illustrative process through hours of whacking off You can always do that. In fact I recommend it.
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Sep 3, 2021 09:38
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Aw man... Well at least he's dead now and I feel way less bad about it! Whats the bad one if the piss one isn't it? Whatshisface the Blame! guy seems to be into piss too, the main character has to drink a girls piss in sidonia and that doll one. And the little blush people do in sidonia when their suit goes up their urethra, there's something goin on there I don't think it happens in Blame though and I didn't read biomega
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Sep 3, 2021 09:56
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You're like one of the people on the Snowpiercer who want to look into the protein bar machine. You know it's gonna be gross, so why do it?
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Sep 3, 2021 11:23
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Artists are all freaks so if the worst you’re getting is someone getting peed on occasionally, that’s not too bad in the grand scheme of things
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Sep 3, 2021 11:33
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Tiler Kiwi posted:my favorite youtube philosophy guy put out a video about berserk and Nietzsche sorry to undermine this piss discussion, but this video is pretty excellent
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Sep 3, 2021 13:18
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Mirello posted:sorry to undermine this piss discussion, but this video is pretty excellent Don't apologize, just don't undermine the piss discussion.
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Speaking of piss, https://twitter.com/NetflixGeeked/status/1433792002966106113?s=20
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