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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: A functional state could have pulled this off with no notice in a matter of hours. I'm looking at you, China.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:a buddy of mine had to spend like a year there for work and he once told me about how the people that actually live there fuckin love it that sounds like all of LA, MS, and AL
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Aug 29, 2021 04:18
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Zil posted:The thought of flying into a hurricane is scary enough, but to do it at night? That takes balls/ovaries of steel. the pilots that do this and the aerial firefighting are seriously a cut above, especially since these are usually guard and reserve units who don't have to deal with constant transfers.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:a buddy of mine had to spend like a year there for work and he once told me about how the people that actually live there fuckin love it yeah it rocks. it’s where people from all classes of life can go to a fish rodeo and get insanely debauched together
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Lord of Pie posted:death is preferable to Shreveport Having lived in Shreveport I can attest that this is a true fact.
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: cool that the city of New Orleans spends *checks* $204m loving dollars on police, 24% of their budget can’t get a couple hundred officers (from any of a dozen other municipalities or the state) to man exits?? gently caress thiiiiis
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yes actually, that is the expectation like you can go look it up for how it went with katrina quote:Then came Katrina. On Friday morning, August 26, Katrina was considered mostly a threat to Florida. The eye was just northwest of Key West. Although Louisiana was not a projected target, DOTD began storm preparations. We put emergency personnel on alert status and prepared to immediately clear all evacuation routes. We coordinated pre-staging evacuation activities with State police, and we alerted Mississippi of our intention to implement contraflow if the storm came our way. which tbf went as smoothly as it did because they hosed it up the first time trying it out the year before with hurricane ivan
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hi, dumbass here. what extra data could the plane provide at this point that would change things?
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Aug 29, 2021 04:30
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dude we NEED the data don't ask qeustions
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Gunshow Poophole posted:cool that the city of New Orleans spends Louisiana is corrupt as gently caress so
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: Hmm, were I governor I would have told all the police covering the highway jurisdictions to have people ready on call day days ago, and they should be ready to implement the highway closure plan that's been worked out and rehearsed multiple times since Katrina. We can look to the east and see China doing it, this no government can do it nonsense doesn't fly.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:33
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Isnt there a goon in that plane?
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I got a plan make the 500 cops line up and then drive out and take the exits in their cop cars two cops at a time and then keep rolling until the whole freeway is closed down for contraflow. This may take as long as two hours. Make them maintain radio silence for extra challenge.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:36
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Mola Yam posted:hi, dumbass here. what extra data could the plane provide at this point that would change things? I don’t know that it could provide anything actionable for this storm, but it will improve our understanding of meteorological phenomena.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:38
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Mola Yam posted:hi, dumbass here. what extra data could the plane provide at this point that would change things? center fixes from dropsondes so we know if the forecast track is accurate or needs adjustment. pressure gradient readings so we know how wide the wind field is. tons of instrumentation on dynamics that help us understand the processes that cause hurricanes to strengthen and weaken. they provide a shitload of useful data. your tax dollars at work. too bad they have maintenance issues all the time now and have to abort missions.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:39
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Hmm, were I governor I would have told all the police covering the highway jurisdictions to have people ready on call day days ago, and they should be ready to implement the highway closure plan that's been worked out and rehearsed multiple times since Katrina. We can look to the east and see China doing it, this no government can do it nonsense doesn't fly. for real katrina evacuation got rolling the same goddamn day, they pulled the trigger in the morning and they had it up that afternoon, it is clearly bullshit
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Aug 29, 2021 04:40
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Gunshow Poophole posted:cool that the city of New Orleans spends Only 24% of their budget on police? Pffft. Every city in Texas dedicates at least 30% of their budget to the boys in blue.
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will this be the only hurricanes nola will face this year I wonder
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: I mean yeah I kind of expect the richest country in the world to be able to pull something like this off in way less than 24 hours. It's funny how often "but it's haaaaaard!" seems to come up to justify government inaction on matters of safety and public well-being. There should be plans for this kind of thing that are read to go literally at a moment's notice.
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Paradoxish posted:I mean yeah I kind of expect the richest country in the world to be able to pull something like this off in way less than 24 hours. Translation: they asked and the cops said no thanks
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Only 24% of their budget on police? Pffft. Every city in Texas dedicates at least 30% of their budget to the boys in blue. Paradoxish posted:I mean yeah I kind of expect the richest country in the world to be able to pull something like this off in way less than 24 hours. 
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:center fixes from dropsondes so we know if the forecast track is accurate or needs adjustment. pressure gradient readings so we know how wide the wind field is. tons of instrumentation on dynamics that help us understand the processes that cause hurricanes to strengthen and weaken. they provide a shitload of useful data. your tax dollars at work. too bad they have maintenance issues all the time now and have to abort missions. I'm sure the real ones are better, but the training dropsondes I used back in the day were loving worthless. have to throw 3 of them out to even get GPS and wind data lmao
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Aug 29, 2021 04:48
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: I know New Orleans specifically has a super hosed police department, but it seems like across the country cops got mobilized real quick to lockdown areas after the George Floyd protests kicked off Like, towns in Indiana were having barricades put up on interstate off ramps coming from Chicago
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Aug 29, 2021 04:50
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yeah they just don’t care or want to help it’s p simple doomed nation
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Aug 29, 2021 04:51
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gently caress this nerd. Mola Yam posted:hi, dumbass here. what extra data could the plane provide at this point that would change things? Central pressure, flight level winds, wind shear in and around the storm. All that poo poo gets fed into the weather models and improves predictability a great deal. Otherwise the only data you have is satellite (which tells you really nothing going on inside the storm, just the view from the top) of if it hits a random buoy.
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We could have done it, we just didn't. This mantra can be applied to pretty much any problem plaguing America. We could fix pretty much every issue we have, we just..won't. So death it is then.
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Radirot posted:will this be the only hurricanes nola will face this year I wonder
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Also, if they'd spent time on the roads, they couldn't spend the time preparing for the most important duty after the storm is over! Stopping "looters." 
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Aug 29, 2021 04:59
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Zil posted:The thought of flying into a hurricane is scary enough, but to do it at night? That takes balls/ovaries of steel. you can just say nads as a catch-all a fatguy baldspot posted:yeah it rocks. it’s where people from all classes of life can go to a fish rodeo and get insanely debauched together this is a garbage excuse for a rodeo, I can't find one video of someone seductively riding a fish like a mechanical bull Tjadeth has issued a correction as of 05:09 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: I know this isn't really the point but couldn't they just install gates on all the freeway on ramps that say "closed for Contraflow" and lock them shut? Would take like a dozen police a couple of hours to lock a couple hundred of gates or am I missing something? This seems like one of those problems that can only exist for governments.
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he should know better than to use adsb speeds like that I’m sure it’s just a datalink or website issue but the complaining is because the current WC-130 in the storm isn’t publishing to the web. the pressure in the eye is going to give us a good idea of how much it’s strengthening
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Aug 29, 2021 05:08
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Mola Yam posted:hi, dumbass here. what extra data could the plane provide at this point that would change things? the data gathering is a cover for the dangerous mission to precisely hit inside the eye of the hurricane with a proton torpedo and blow it up
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Shear Modulus posted:the data gathering is a cover for the dangerous mission to precisely hit inside the eye of the hurricane with a proton torpedo and blow it up it's a plot to drop various forms of bioterrorism on cuba
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PostNouveau posted:Why they couldn't get the "contraflow" evacuation routes going: lol no evac cause cops would need to work
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has anyone tried smooching the hurricane
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JesusIsTehCool posted:I know this isn't really the point but couldn't they just install gates on all the freeway on ramps that say "closed for Contraflow" and lock them shut? Would take like a dozen police a couple of hours to lock a couple hundred of gates or am I missing something? This seems like one of those problems that can only exist for governments. You just park sanitation trucks sideways. It takes like 30 minutes to do it
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You can check out the HH data with low latency here. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/
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