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From's undying need to insert a blighttown-like in every game aside, surely we can all agree that Lost Bastille is the worst area in the whole franchise? God its so annoying with little payoff of any sort.
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codo27 posted:From's undying need to insert a blighttown-like in every game aside, surely we can all agree that Lost Bastille is the worst area in the whole franchise? God its so annoying with little payoff of any sort.  lost bastille is one of the better areas in the game
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Aug 28, 2021 16:48
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codo27 posted:From's undying need to insert a blighttown-like in every game aside, surely we can all agree that Lost Bastille is the worst area in the whole franchise? God its so annoying with little payoff of any sort. Are you thinking of Earthen Peak?
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Aug 28, 2021 17:02
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Aug 28, 2021 17:09
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Its the most rewarding area in the game, to the point where the lost sinner is the first great soul I kill on every single new run just because of how good the loot on the way there is
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Aug 28, 2021 17:23
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Bastille owns wtf
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Aug 28, 2021 17:38
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Bastille is nothing like Blighttown, come on now
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Aug 28, 2021 17:42
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codo27 posted:surely we can all agree that Lost Bastille is the worst area in the whole franchise? We cannot
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Aug 28, 2021 17:53
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Lost Bastille was one of the only good zones in release DS2, but it’s ugly tho
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Aug 28, 2021 18:22
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So what actually is peoples' least favourite area in Souls 2? Black Gulch? Harvest Valley?
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Raylax posted:So what actually is peoples' least favourite area in Souls 2? Black Gulch? Harvest Valley? IMO Black Gulch, like Sinner’s Rise, doesn’t really deserve to be considered a whole area. It’s like the x-3 zones in DeS or Crystal Cave in DS1, an appendage to the main zone that is basically just a short run up to the branch end boss with a couple small side bits. As for the rest take your pick really. Harvest Valley is ugly and boring Amana is pretty but infuriating and tedious Heide is the series’ biggest waste of a skybox Frozen Outskirts is a joke (ditto Cave of the Dead and Iron Passage but at least they’re shorter) Both the rat zones are complete poo poo skasion fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 28, 2021 |
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Aug 28, 2021 18:33
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Shrine of Amana is pretty but has to be up there for the frustration factor. Same with Black Gulch. I've heard plenty of people diss Harvest Valley, especially traversal-wise (in that you can skip the vast majority of the area), but I think it's at least a halfway decent twist on the poison swamp tendency. Pretty much, I think almost all of DS2's areas are both the best and the worst in the series, simultaneously. Schrodinger's Soulsborne.
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Aug 28, 2021 18:35
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Harvest valley is the least bad poison area in any souls game, but alas its still tedious as hell
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Aug 28, 2021 18:39
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Shaded Woods looks like rear end and i don't like the fog area very much
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Aug 28, 2021 18:41
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Two gang bosses!! Two!! yes belfry is a separate place technically but still gently caress the jihadi zombies too.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:00
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Grave of Saints is the easy winner for me. It's two hallways with a trap every couple of feet.  Huge swing of difference between the final product and what was planned, too.Huntsman's Copse is one that's just extremely...there. If not for the Undead Purgatory and the Skeleton Lords it'd have very little personality. I guess there's that mansion type building? The poison butterflies?  Though there's that Benny Hill hollow that messes with you too... Maybe I'm wrong about it...
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Aug 28, 2021 19:29
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Huntsman’s Copse isn’t super exciting visually but it’s got some layout going on at least. Kind of like Harvest Valley but the enemies are a bit more fun.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:31
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Bastille, Forest of Giants and Heide nearly put me off the game - ooh, castles with soldiers and/or knights. Not really interesting to explore. Going to Huntsman's Copse finally made me feel like it was a Souls game, visually. I really love the way you descend into the earth as you advance through the game. DS3 kinda does it too, but I think DS2 does it better.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:54
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I know Black Gulch is just a few rooms but I died so many times there it's still my least favorite DS2 area. Just the absolute worst. I can't say I like Harvest Valley but at least there's stuff there besides being headshotted by poison and NPC invasions.
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Aug 28, 2021 20:22
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John Murdoch posted:Grave of Saints is the easy winner for me. It's two hallways with a trap every couple of feet. Huntsmans copse (and just about every other area in the game) had a bunch of personality injected into it with the SOTFS update. It was forgettable in vanilla but SOTFS has a knack for making even the blandest areas memorable
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Aug 28, 2021 20:23
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I would take og Xbox 360 Blighttown at the 12fps it ran at over the dick hammering exercise that was Black Gultch. I don't feel like I ever got better at going through the area more than I just figured out how to do the shortcuts and skip enough of the area to make it bearable, which goes against what I like about areas in this series
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Aug 28, 2021 22:52
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The black gulch is a fantastic practical joke. You spend the entire time in the gutter wandering around in darkness getting smacked with these infuriating poison statues, then you make it to the end! and you can see again! and what you can see is the entire long trail crammed with more poison statues, all the way to the boss door. Then sotfs added two invasions and blocked the second bonfire lmfao
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Aug 28, 2021 23:19
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Honestly, my least favorite areas are probably the noodly connective bits. Not on principle, honestly every game had some dumb poo poo like that, but more because they're less interesting than the noodly connective bits in the other games. Grave of Saints itself is like...okay, but the worst section of it is that bit after you fall off the rope bridge past the Grave of Saints proper but before you reach the Gutter, where you're just climbing down that rat's nest of planks and ladders. Or that big ramp you have to run up as you're going to the Huntsman's Copse.
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codo27 posted:Two gang bosses!! Two!! Gang bosses are fun
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Aug 29, 2021 01:55
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The Shaded Ruins is probably the most boring and ugly place in 2 for me. There are a few other areas that are one or the other, but that's the one that has the highest arbitrary combined total to me.
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Aug 29, 2021 02:59
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Nuns with Guns posted:The Shaded Ruins is probably the most boring and ugly place in 2 for me. There are a few other areas that are one or the other, but that's the one that has the highest arbitrary combined total to me. There's interesting things in it, or at least, potentially interesting ideas, like finding the holes to drop down into the cave, fighting a runaway body and the curse vases but you're right - the space all that happens in is really tedious and badly laid out.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:24
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Raylax posted:So what actually is peoples' least favourite area in Souls 2? Black Gulch? Harvest Valley? it's like upper blighttown if you took away all the character
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Aug 29, 2021 04:31
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blighttown is genuinely one of the best zones in any souls game, by the way
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Aug 29, 2021 04:32
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Playing through Dark Souls 2 for the first time and just got through Black Gulch. It's an annoying gotcha area but it's over fast. Was expecting worse from all the reaction in this thread. I had the same thing with Blightown when completing DS:R earlier this year though.
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Aug 29, 2021 08:21
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:Playing through Dark Souls 2 for the first time and just got through Black Gulch. It's an annoying gotcha area but it's over fast. Was expecting worse from all the reaction in this thread. I had the same thing with Blightown when completing DS:R earlier this year though. I went back last night to harvest titanite chunks from the tentacle monsters in the tar pools. It was cathartic setting fire to the place from a distance with fire arrows.
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Aug 29, 2021 08:33
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I don't like Tseldora after Congregation because of the many points of no return. Terrible level to fully explore. But yeah on the n-th replay all the empty connection zones really start to drag as well. What's up with the actual Heide tower anyway All of this ignores the co-op DLC areas because yeah the MOST hated area overall, for me, is Iron Passage
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Aug 29, 2021 08:49
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Im having a hard time picking my least favorite SOTFS area because even the one I initially hated the most (Iron Keep) is manageable with the same aggressive advance that makes Amana easy. In vanilla it was easily the gutter though
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Okay what the gently caress. I've played hundreds and hundreds of hours of Souls and never parried until I was forced to in Sekiro. Now I'm trying it out, I've gotten good but I cant seem to riposte. What am I doing wrong? I'm using the bandit axe so I figured that couldn't do it, so I switched to the mail breaker I had. Same thing, I cant seem to trigger the crit attack after performing the parry, only regular ones. drat this lost sinner, I dont remember having any difficulty with him before
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codo27 posted:Okay what the gently caress. I've played hundreds and hundreds of hours of Souls and never parried until I was forced to in Sekiro. Now I'm trying it out, I've gotten good but I cant seem to riposte. What am I doing wrong? I'm using the bandit axe so I figured that couldn't do it, so I switched to the mail breaker I had. Same thing, I cant seem to trigger the crit attack after performing the parry, only regular ones. drat this lost sinner, I dont remember having any difficulty with him before For normal enemies, you have to wait until they've finished sitting down.
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Aug 29, 2021 17:41
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Yeah I got past him after, descended into the gutter and now black gulch. This 5 foot long area is probably the one I remember most when thinking about this game. Still kinda bewildered at what a slog I'm finding it
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Aug 29, 2021 19:35
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Black Gulch is short but it really works hard to concentrate the terrible
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Aug 29, 2021 20:44
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DS2 makes you run gauntlets from the bonfire to the boss in too many places. You know that you suck when the enemies at the end of an area start going extinct.
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Aug 29, 2021 21:02
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[laughing in flamelurker]
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Aug 29, 2021 21:21
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I just had the grunts on the way to lost sinner disappear on me. Not the drat flexile sentry though There's just so many needless gently caress you's, like killing a boss not restoring humanity. What gives? I got my adaptability at 30 but chugging still feels like it takes too long
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There have been playthrus in Iron Keep where I will thoroughly genocide every single mob, run back to the bonfire, and repeat until they stay dead just so I can have unfettered access to Smelter Demon and some breathing room to put my soapstone down.
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