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Shame Boy posted:That's gotta be a made-up justification to make some other worse reason more marketable (at least to idiot conservatives) right? Cuz like, it's not like the kids are the ones who have to pay for the lunches, so that reasoning just falls to bits if you think about it for more than a second. cannot have people thinking that it is the role of schools to take care of students
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quote:Since June, the Alliance for Education in Waukesha, about 900 parents and teachers who connected over social media, has pressed the district to switch back to the “universal” or free-for-everyone meals after board members decried the program’s potential to produce an “addiction” to the service — a stigma that some experts have disproved. Their efforts come amid a coronavirus pandemic with economic effects that are hurting families across the nation. Do not, my friends, become addicted to food...
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If these children wanted to eat then they should work! Them coal mines need tiny people to fit into dangerous holes. Won't anyone think of the billionaires!?
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Complications posted:Do not, my friends, become addicted to food... I'm still getting a "you scratch the surface of this a bit and find gross misconduct and embezzlement" vibes from this whole thing. Like I can't imagine anyone saying "As we get back to whatever you want to believe normal means" in anything but a "why am I not drunk or high enough right now, gently caress you for talking to me, I need to get back to my coke stash" voice
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FFT posted:somehow the the cruelty is the point thread died 11 months ago Not anymore
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I'm looking the dude up now and besides simultaneously running a business the thing that stands out to me is that it seems like every school board election for the last 10 years, nobody but the incumbents ran and the current school board won by default over and over. It's clear nobody's paid attention or has given a gently caress about this school board until right now, if this dude hasn't been embezzling the gently caress out of everything every chance he got while nobody was looking he'd be the most upstanding small business owner in the universe.
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Shame Boy posted:I'm looking the dude up now and besides simultaneously running a business the thing that stands out to me is that it seems like every school board election for the last 10 years, nobody but the incumbents ran and the current school board won by default over and over. It's clear nobody's paid attention or has given a gently caress about this school board until right now, if this dude hasn't been embezzling the gently caress out of everything every chance he got while nobody was looking he'd be the most upstanding small business owner in the universe. My counterpoint skepticism is that in the mid range between the town where you know everyone and a large city like Chicago, local politics for anything other than mayor and maybe city council kinda fades into background noise for anyone who isn't mainlining politics. That's a whole fuckload of corrupt school boards, which honestly is par for the course but still. (Also lol Chicago is corrupt as poo poo lmfao)
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Shame Boy posted:Crosspostin' this from the 'pos Somehow, this kind of flexibility never goes the other way, where the employee leaves at 3 sometimes. And that's why you have formal overtime that you can cash in or out.
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BonHair posted:Somehow, this kind of flexibility never goes the other way, where the employee leaves at 3 sometimes. And that's why you have formal overtime that you can cash in or out. it totally did in the until the 60s and 70s and then white collar employers started feelin the squeeze
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:this reminds me of my buddy who did IT support for a private boarding school in Vietnam. the biggest difference is that kids spill juice all over their laptops while adults spill coffee
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Shame Boy posted:Like I gotta imagine that accepting the free/reduced price funding means something like they'd have to open their lunch budget to oversight and then the feds would find out the superintendent has been artificially inflating the price of mashed potato shipments and skimming the money off to pay for his weekend cocaine binges or whatever. If everyone eats the same lunches, you can’t use the lunch you pack to highlight social hierarchy. Poor kids eat pizza and chicken nuggets with a side of corn. The rich kids get organic whatevers. Those rich kids definitely will be eating the nuggets if they are free and available. Then how will special moms (who are good moms not like poor moms who feed their kids trash) show everyone how much effort they put into the lunches?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:If everyone eats the same lunches, you can’t use the lunch you pack to highlight social hierarchy. The same way they always do, by just sending their kid to private school instead.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:03
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school lunches were another way that I knew society at large hated children and wanted them to suffer. big profits for Sodexo though
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Also like, the free and reduced price lunch program is usually not just "lunch is free for everyone" it's "lunch is free if you're a poor kid on the Official Registered Poor Kids List" so it's not like you won't still be able to enforce social hierarchy, or that your middle class kids get free chicken nuggies now or whatever.
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Aug 29, 2021 04:13
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bedpan posted:school lunches were another way that I knew society at large hated children and wanted them to suffer. big profits for Sodexo though Boomers and their gross familiars hate children because they are a constant reminder of their own fragile mortality. I think most people are pro-children's wellbeing, but boomers run the world.
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Shame Boy posted:Also like, the free and reduced price lunch program is usually not just "lunch is free for everyone" it's "lunch is free if you're a poor kid on the Official Registered Poor Kids List" so it's not like you won't still be able to enforce social hierarchy, or that your middle class kids get free chicken nuggies now or whatever. I believe the newest program is just "everyone's lunch is free"
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PostNouveau posted:I believe the newest program is just "everyone's lunch is free" Wow what the gently caress, I didn't get lunch for free back in the day and now I'm mad and want children to suffer to make it better!!
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PostNouveau posted:I believe the newest program is just "everyone's lunch is free" This year they are doing this where I live, and this is a rich area (#2 richest county in the US) and I am definitely not a poor. It’s a tremendously convenient thing for middle class people because you no longer have to think about shopping for or packing lunches. No paperwork for the school either (had to send in a form every year certifying we are not poor, they have to process a free lunch AND a cash operation every day). Everyone gets breakfast and lunch every day! It’s great. Make it free everywhere forever. Saves me effort and hungry kids get fed. The perfect program.
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I feel like that doesn't actually educate kids about the world, we ought to be giving free lunches only to the richest kids
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Aug 29, 2021 05:04
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Make the kids work for lunch, a few hours in the Amazon Warehouse (for kids) for each lunch menu item.
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tokin opposition posted:Make the kids work for lunch, a few hours in the Amazon Warehouse (for kids) for each lunch menu item. nah just make em work dude. 
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If you want to differentiate pay, just have the rich parents pay a mandatory fee for the food and give it to the poor kids free. You can even do several steps. Or I guess the opposite direction. And speaking as a parent who has had their kid in kindergardens both with and without a lunch programme, the lunch programme option is superior both in terms of the food, the community feeling and my time.
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BonHair posted:If you want to differentiate pay, just have the rich parents pay a mandatory fee for the food and give it to the poor kids free. You can even do several steps. That's effectively how it's worked for years, it's just covid made a lot of people insta-poor and it got hard to sort out which kids "deserved" food or whatever so it sounds like they were just giving it to everyone.
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Look pal, food is earned.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:nah just make em work dude. McDonalds can employ 14 year olds in the States?
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Failed Imagineer posted:McDonalds can employ 14 year olds in the States? in some states, at least they can't touch any of the cooking equipment and have restricted working hours so they're mostly limited to wiping tables
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Weka posted:Look pal, food is earned. do not let your children become addicted to food
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The Chairman posted:in some states, at least I'd say "why bother?" but I know the answer is "protestant work ethic." edit: This also reminds me that I worked on the grand opening team for a grocery store, and because of the turbofucked demographics of the area, the company had to build a special provision into its hiring and labor practice to allow minors to work as cashiers. It was some weird overloaded hourglass shaped distribution with a shitload of minors and a shitload of olds, with anyone in the 18-65 band already gobbled up or moved away. Warmachine has issued a correction as of 15:07 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:McDonalds can employ 14 year olds in the States? Half the people working at my local McDonald's have grey hair.
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Animal-Mother posted:Half the people working at my local McDonald's have grey hair. In any other country in 2021 one would make people assume they're not 14 but in the USA?
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Failed Imagineer posted:McDonalds can employ 14 year olds in the States? Some states allow 14-18 to work part time with parent approval, yeah. Meant to teach them the protestant work ethic but 100% of them become communists or anarchists or whatever so who can say if its bad or not
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Peanut President posted:Some states allow 14-18 to work part time with parent approval, yeah. Meant to teach them the protestant work ethic but 100% of them become communists or anarchists or whatever so who can say if its bad or not It is funny. I've heard all my life that I would not be a socialist anymore once I got a "real job". I worked fast food (Pizza Hut) for a good chunk of my 20s and I'm working as a teacher now, which has its own set of problems. I still want to eat the rich.
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Forceholy posted:It is funny. I've heard all my life that I would not be a socialist anymore once I got a "real job". those aren't real jobs, try being a landlord or a ceo
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Plank Walker posted:those aren't real jobs, try being a landlord or a ceo But I thought those were the job creators?
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Rabbi Tupac posted:But I thought those were the job creators? Writing off strip club visits as job expenses isn't easy.
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Feel like I'm seeing more and more senior citizens doing amazon deliveries driving around. I think this means we have a.. good? economy??
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tangy yet delightful posted:Feel like I'm seeing more and more senior citizens doing amazon deliveries driving around. I think this means we have a.. good? economy?? Don't worry the corporate elite has just the solution to that problem. They are just going to make preventive steps of a global pandemic political.
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The state I grew up in allowed kids to start working at 13, with limited hours blah blah blah. A lot of kids got exploited; I got to work at the public library, which was the best job in the global history of having jobs.
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I remember back in seventh grade home economics class the teacher had one of the students give a speech to the rest of the class about working because they started working that year. She was the poorest kid in class and went to work to help pay the rent for her parents.
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