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mistermojo posted:guys obsessed with Kanye who watched every show and couldnt wait to listen to the album: yeah this actually sucks lmao I want it to be known I did not watch the listening parties
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:09 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 01:08 |
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Jfc donda is bad. I can’t do this. I made it 20 minutes before giving up.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:24 |
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Cobra Commander posted:Jfc donda is bad. I can’t do this. I made it 20 minutes before giving up. you only made it less than 20% into the album. you can't make any judgments
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:28 |
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must finish the whole poo poo sandwich to judge!!!
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:28 |
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Believe What I Say is my favourite so far. tbh it feels like TLOP without any of the high points (ie it's very bland) Every song is a random trap beat with a different feature and no real flair. I think it would be possible to cut this into a 30 minute album that's pretty good E: Maybe a 20 minute album
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:31 |
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Lot of fat to trim but the highs are good
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:33 |
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I'm just glad an official version of Hurricane is finally out.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:42 |
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t a s t e posted:Lot of fat to trim but the highs are good Yeah this. It’s mostly good, lots of skips but I’m glad it finally came out
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 15:44 |
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just finished listening. it has some moments, especially Hurricane. but it's mostly, like, boring? especially after such a dumb and lame rollout that was trying to hard to hype this thing up. it obviously worked for other people looking at Twitter I guess. idk man in summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1a0E2E35mc
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 16:06 |
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Finished my first listen, over all not a good album. Too long, way too much filler for no reason. Bunch of these songs feel like stuff that should have been recorded and tossed, but instead were extended and put on an album. Jesus Lord is pretty good, (parts 1+2 are like 20 minutes combined lmbo, way too much garbage in it, could cut Kanye entirely it would be better), Believe what I say is not bad, will probably give the album one more listen, but it’s filled with too much bad music to bother with 108 minute album every song (original cut, never listened to all the updates, didn’t feel like keeping up) on TLOP except for awful stretch of I love Kanye, low lights, and freestyle 4 are better than every song on donda 4/10
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 16:06 |
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 16:25 |
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t a s t e posted:Lot of fat to trim but the highs are good kanye for the past 15 years, imo
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 16:37 |
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feel like if you cut this album off after "Moon," or if you cut 1-3 minutes off each song, its a pretty good album. you cant be this loving indulgent with garbage ye "verses" for this much combined runtime though without it just all sucking rear end the ironic thing about jail having featured verses that are either (a) complete rear end or (b) made by a lovely homophobe is that the song itself would be much better if it was less than 3 minutes long and did not have either verse abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Aug 29, 2021 |
# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:02 |
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I'll probably listen again but it's likely Kanye's never making a great album again. He really needs editors. There's a lot of good ideas here, and you can see some really great things happening but it's just too long. Too many songs of middling quality, and even a lot of the good songs just take too long with nothing really going on that's interesting at all.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:20 |
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alansmithee posted:I'll probably listen again but it's likely Kanye's never making a great album again. He really needs editors. There's a lot of good ideas here, and you can see some really great things happening but it's just too long. Too many songs of middling quality, and even a lot of the good songs just take too long with nothing really going on that's interesting at all.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:21 |
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Kanye bad
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:30 |
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The back half of the album is way better than the start, but half of this is unlistenable trash, and a quarter of it I would never listen to again. So many of the songs are just completely ruined by being so overproduced and long.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:34 |
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i thought it owned and had minimal skips. some tracks way too long tho i will admit
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:41 |
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pitchfork: 5.6 BNM
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:42 |
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Its a weird project but honestly if he spent the same amount of time on this, on JiK then that album would've been much better received. Also I guess the era of the short Kanye album is officially over lol
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:46 |
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Yeah it's Kanye so there's moments that shine but this thing needed to be 1/4 or 1/3 the length There's 5ish songs on here I think are really good but they're buried by some questionable tracks
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:49 |
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I think the idea of a patchable album is not inherently a bad thing but as an artist you have to be able to let go at some point. Hyper perfectionism is also not inherently a bad thing, if you have a creative vision and the means to indulge it without it affecting somebody else’s livelihood then go hog wild. The combination of these things is definitely, definitely not good for Mr. West. In my opinion the advent of streaming as the primary means of people engaging with music has hosed up the man’s art and that’s sad to me. I would not be interested in anything he’s doing post Trump anyway but the combination of not really being accountable to anyone due to the level of fame and wealth he has, and the aforementioned outlets to tinker and tweak forever are absolutely doing a number on his creative efforts. It’s a bummer man.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 17:56 |
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You have to have people around you who are both willing and empowered to say No. I don’t think he even needs somebody who can overrule him, at the end of the day it’s his name on the album not Mike dean or whoever. But a dissenting voice to say “actually it probably would be good not to have an accused rapist on this track for no reason beyond courting controversy” or “you don’t need the same song with a different guest verse on your album as another track” would be a good thing.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:00 |
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alansmithee posted:I'll probably listen again but it's likely Kanye's never making a great album again. He really needs editors. There's a lot of good ideas here, and you can see some really great things happening but it's just too long. Too many songs of middling quality, and even a lot of the good songs just take too long with nothing really going on that's interesting at all. Bismack Billabongo posted:You have to have people around you who are both willing and empowered to say No. I don’t think he even needs somebody who can overrule him, at the end of the day it’s his name on the album not Mike dean or whoever. But a dissenting voice to say “actually it probably would be good not to have an accused rapist on this track for no reason beyond courting controversy” or “you don’t need the same song with a different guest verse on your album as another track” would be a good thing. yep yep
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:02 |
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Bismack Billabongo posted:You have to have people around you who are both willing and empowered to say No. I don’t think he even needs somebody who can overrule him, at the end of the day it’s his name on the album not Mike dean or whoever. But a dissenting voice to say “actually it probably would be good not to have an accused rapist on this track for no reason beyond courting controversy” or “you don’t need the same song with a different guest verse on your album as another track” would be a good thing. This is objectively a good point But if you're expecting Kanye to act rationally and/or not engage in loving stupid, self destructive, regressive behaviour in 2021 you're kidding yourself
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:09 |
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Probably outing myself as an idiot, but what was with the Larry Hoover stuff? I’m struggling to find an unbiased source of info on him and how Kanye West is related to him. Why this is the person Kanye would choose to bring attention to the need for sentencing/prison reform (or is it more personal and he just wants this one person released?)
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:22 |
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My favorite band just broke up with what would have likely been an incredible album sitting on the shelf because the guy with the final say couldn’t just let go of it and put the dang thing out. poo poo sucks!
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:24 |
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somebody buy the donda tamogachi and cut all the filler and get back to us please
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:26 |
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Donda Chant sounds like me trying to play Patapon after 15 years.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:36 |
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^burtle posted:Donda Chant sounds like me trying to play Patapon after 15 years. the Desiigner influence weights heavy
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 18:39 |
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This album was worth the wait, you can tell he really poured his whole soul into this album (not that he hasn’t with other albums). He’s really found a way to vocalize his pain and experience dealing with a lot of poo poo.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 19:08 |
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I was on the wing like Mbappe I wished that I played for France Instead, I'm on the wing with my hand down, my trousers Something's getting plugged if I'm in this stance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlR7cuBAcXw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKv-KP9rPF4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKv-KP9rPF4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrUuP5ES78 err fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 29, 2021 |
# ? Aug 29, 2021 19:24 |
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Donda is doo doo water
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:13 |
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it’s no Pablo but can’t lie it’s miles better than Ye and Jesus is King. I might actually add a couple to my playlists
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:16 |
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The version on Apple Music in the UK is clean, is that the same for the other versions? Can’t find a dirty one on there
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:35 |
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same on spotify lol
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:35 |
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Kanye just posted on instagram that universal put up his album without his approval lol
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:44 |
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err posted:This album was worth the wait, you can tell he really poured his whole soul into this album (not that he hasn’t with other albums). He’s really found a way to vocalize his pain and experience dealing with a lot of poo poo. this is cap btw. album trash
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:46 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Kanye just posted on instagram that universal put up his album without his approval lol https://www.instagram.com/p/CTK6NChoUIp/
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 01:08 |
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Bismack Billabongo posted:My favorite band just broke up with what would have likely been an incredible album sitting on the shelf because the guy with the final say couldn’t just let go of it and put the dang thing out. poo poo sucks! Was not expecting to find out about Chromatics breaking up in the rap thread, goddamnit Johnny.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 20:51 |