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Wicked Them Beats posted:Dragoon has a button for this, but it usually just flings you off of a cliff. Age of Wushu spoiled me with wuxia flight moves. Now there was a movement system. Double jump, triple jump, speed up without trace, wild goose step, etc. Of course it was a sandbox game and in FFXIV you've got like a 50% chance of being able to step over a stream or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6_aVHkwdO8
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Duodecimal posted:If I'd thought I'd enjoy the game I'd have probably come up with a better name. i'm ingame as Blurth Flurminurth and it turned out perfect, i'm lovin it
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Duodecimal posted:I was very underwhelmed for my 30 day trial. Got up to somewhere in the upper 20s and let the trial lapse. Just to note, you should really be casting B3 pretty often, it’s how you switch to Umbral and F3 is how you switch to astral phases. There’s a bunch of interplay in those two abilities that are kind of important.
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Duodecimal posted:
lol, my dogs name is Harvey and we call him Harbles from time to time. This is the first time I have seen someone else use that name.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Dragoon has a button for this, but it usually just flings you off of a cliff. Red Mage gets to do it even more since their version is paired with an ogcd melee attack
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Xarbala posted:On the plus side if anybody wants to try a new class, Rogue is probably the second best non-Job class questline behind Pugilist and comes with the upside of transitioning over to the still pretty decent Ninja Job Class quests. Pugilist moves into Monk which is imo one of the least engaging Job Questlines. Rogue/Ninja does have the benefit of having been added a little after 2.0, so it had somewhat less crunch involved with it's design and job quests at the time.
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Also fwiw Hartles Fartlebender is an extremely strong name and a good way to farm comms in dungeons
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Xarbala posted:On the plus side if anybody wants to try a new class, Rogue is probably the second best non-Job class questline behind Pugilist and comes with the upside of transitioning over to the still pretty decent Ninja Job Class quests. Pugilist moves into Monk which is imo one of the least engaging Job Questlines. The Rogue class quests were what sold me on the game, and you need to reach lvl 15 (?) on any other class to begin with before you can take them anyways, so I can heartily recommend trying them at the earliest opportunity. everyone should get acquainted with the coves an' morts, getting yer stabbers a-stabbin' when the spitters an' cutters are skulking about in the darkmans. or something. I was having plenty of fun before the 80 hour mark is what I'm saying. also, fishing. it's right next to the Rogue's guild too! edit: also, crunch was definitely a huuuuuuuge factor in the quality of the game's early life. there's a case to be made that 2.0 was the biggest development turnaround in videogame history. it's a miracle ARR is what it is, considering the building was figuratively burning down when they pushed it out the door. Ramie fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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Hunter Noventa posted:Rogue/Ninja does have the benefit of having been added a little after 2.0, so it had somewhat less crunch involved with it's design and job quests at the time. Also you get to kick enemies in the face.
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The Rogue questline was written by Natsuko Ishikawa, the amazing writer that later gave us the Dark Knight quests and became the main scenario writer for Shadowbringers and Endwalker. She owns and everything she touches is worth seeing. In 2019 she was part of the FFXIV dev contingent that went to PAX and she got a well deserved standing ovation when they introduced her. So yeah, Rogue has a good confluence of "Interesting if basic class quest written by a great writer" and "base job design slightly informed by how the 2.0 classes turned out during that mad scramble to relaunch the game".
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The Rogue quests are also much better at having you do interesting, meaningful things even at low levels than most of the starter jobs that I've tried. (Archer is particularly bad for this -- "go and hit targets while an NPC is racist at you" for, what, like the first three job quests? Maybe four? Archer is really not the game at its best, is my point.)
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Yeah I think most, if not all, of the class/job quests were ported over from 1.0, except for Arcanist and its jobs, rogue/ninja (because they weren't in 1.0), and for some reason, White Mage.
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The Gunslinger posted:This is definitely one of the things I'm struggling with and I played FFXI a long time ago. The maps are really weird and oddly low resolution to boot. In case it helps, there's a map resolution setting in the graphics tab, all the way at the bottom in this screenshot. I think it defaulted to low quality for me. 
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Sunday Morning posted:There's lots of side stuff to keep you occupied for a few months. Level a few jobs to 60, try and get the fishing mount with ocean fishing, dabble in crafting and gathering, level up your gc squadron and get the achievement emotes, there's a bunch of content in this game that doesn't require an 80 job to enjoy. You can probably pass these few months pretty easy.
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Pobrecito posted:"Figuring out" crafting and being able to consistently turn in HQ items for leves and GC turn ins was a big revalation. What's the trick to crafting? Been leveling culinarian and trying to get hq food for turn ins sucks. It just feels like a whole lot of gambling on 50% success rate skills, at least around level 18ish where I am now.
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Aug 30, 2021 01:15
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Is gardening only available if you own a house?
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Regalingualius posted:Is gardening only available if you own a house? you can plant seeds in flower pots and place them in your apartment or fc room to grow them, but in order to fully engage with the system (cross-breeding) you need a garden, which can only be placed outdoors at houses.
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So yesterday I screwed up my nerves (and took some doses of liquid courage) and tossed my hat in for another go at Copperbell. I died against the slimes cause I guess my foot was still in the boom zone. But by that point everything was nearly dead anyway and the white mage rezzed me. Nobody in the group said anything this time either, but they did at least listen to the chat, and the only non sprout /hugged after the rez, which was very nice to see. After that... whoo boy. A lot more, now celebratory drinks, and all told I spent about 6 hours mashing through story because dammit I wanted my fuckin' bird already. Related to that, I wanna slap whoever had the bright idea to make the Waking Sands need two fuckin' load screens for what amounts to a hallway and literally a single room. By the time I got to pick a company I was near fuming from having to go through 4-5 load screens every 15 fuckin' minutes. Definitely think I'm taking a bit of break from MSQ, cause I may just quit if I have to do that a bunch more right now, goddamn. Anyway, meet Kwehntry 
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Glad you had a better dungeon experience this time! Most old timers love to run sprouts through something. And you'll be happy to learn that the scions eventually move their HQ right next to an aetheryte (though you do still have to go through a loading door).
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Glad the next attempt at Copperbell went better! That's much more of the norm. Keep in mind that FFXIV was available and ran on the PS3 until legacy support was removed in 4.0/2017. The broken out zones/instances you're talking about were created to support a console that was running a full modern MMO on 256MB of RAM. At one point they couldn't add a new UI feature without removing a different one because the PS3 literally could not support both of them in memory at once. Later expansion zones are much larger and much less prone to strict instancing once PS4 became the baseline platform.
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Wrist Watch posted:What's the trick to crafting? Been leveling culinarian and trying to get hq food for turn ins sucks. It just feels like a whole lot of gambling on 50% success rate skills, at least around level 18ish where I am now. These are my macros for my alt as I've been working my way through the ARR crafting log. Something like them have had a 100% HQ rate from 20ish to her current 40ish without using the efficient but unreliable skills. I think the only skill in there that you don't have at L18 is Innovation. 70 Durability: code:code:There aren't any real tricks to the skill usage. I think the one thing I do that isn't obvious is that I "waste" a turn of Waste Not on a buff. That means I finish the craft after the same number of touches but at -5 instead of 0 durability, which is not penalized in any way. Your final synthesis just has to succeed, the game doesn't care if you overshoot. The general strategy for all crafting from L11 to L80 will be to start by building Inner Quiet stacks up cheaply, then finish by buffing up and doing your most expensive touches to consume those stacks (literally, when you get Byregot's Blessing). What changes as you level are what skills you use to do those things. Those macros are one reasonable strategy with the L30 skillset and my particular CP. Don't use them blindly, details like number of synthesis steps you need afterwards will depend on your stats and the recipe difficulty. For instance, with less CP it might be better to use 1 Master's Mend instead of 2 Waste Nots. They're just what I currently have set up for the last thing I crafted. The main thing to making crafting HQs reliable is having up to date-ish HQ gear and +CP food, which is much easier to accomplish if you level all the crafters in tandem. Getting some gear from a friend or the MB helps getting started but I bootstrapped my alt without any of that easily enough. I do have a very large advantage over any actual sprout since I know how the system works. Prioritise getting CP food, HQ tools and +CP jewelry. Materia Is are a good investment if you can get them cheap (100-300 gil per). As a crafter you can just insert and remove low level Materia from gear for free whenever and low level crafting materia remains relevant in the end game. If you don't have up-to-date-ish HQ gear then you'll want to use the more efficient but less reliable strategy of Hasty Touch for your first quality steps to build up Inner Quiet stacks, and only switch to the Basic > Standard combo at 5 stacks or so. Watch for Good (consume for CP with Tricks of the Trade, unless you're at high IQ stacks with Innovation or Great Strides in which case touch as planned) and Excellent (touch as hard as you can). As you've noticed the 50% skills are not reliable but using them will do better than dumb macros at lower gear levels. Reacting to Good & Excellent conditions will do better than macros in general, it's just that I've gone sufficiently over the gear minimum to get away with being lazy. I really want to stress that most people do not bother to optimise low level crafting. Normal people just level their hand jobs through Ixal quests, buying Grand Company and Levequest turn-ins on the marketboard, doing Firmament stuff after they get to HW, etc. All of that will speed them through the early levels very quickly. A single HQ turn-in to the Grand Company will net you 3-4 levels in the 20s, and you can do one turn-in per job per day. You really don't need to keep your gear in tip-top shape so you can HQ everything as you level, it's just a thing you can do if you find it fun. I enjoy completing my crafting logs and doing dungeons in a full set of self-crafted HQs like a real nerd, so to me it's worth the time to set up. It's not profitable compared to what I could be doing at L80, but my alt has earned 500k gil over material costs so my junior omnicrafting at least pays for itself.
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ShootaBoy posted:Related to that, I wanna slap whoever had the bright idea to make the Waking Sands need two fuckin' load screens for what amounts to a hallway and literally a single room. By the time I got to pick a company I was near fuming from having to go through 4-5 load screens every 15 fuckin' minutes. Definitely think I'm taking a bit of break from MSQ, cause I may just quit if I have to do that a bunch more right now, goddamn. Wrist Watch posted:What's the trick to crafting? Been leveling culinarian and trying to get hq food for turn ins sucks. It just feels like a whole lot of gambling on 50% success rate skills, at least around level 18ish where I am now. Your most important stat is CP, which comes from right side accessories mostly. You can purchase frumenty from any of the starting city food vendors for +10CP. The wealth option in the starting dialogue of the game also gives a unique lvl1 CP ring, which is good for something like 20 levels or whatever, but if you don't have it there's nothing to do but level up and get gear from NPC vendors or the marketboard. Algid fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Thanks, I'll keep this in mind and keep experimenting. Extremely glad I didn't sell that cp ring I got at the beginning by accident.
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I will say a couple of things in regards to crafting if you really want to pursue it. 1) First off, you need to decide if you're gonna be serious about crafting or just dabble. If you really do want to take everything all the way, in my opinion it is best to table leveling it at all until you've progressed to at least patch 3.3 in the main story so you can access the Ishgard Restoration. It is orders of magnitude faster to level crafting here versus other methods, and with luck can be done gil-neutral or even gil-positive to level every job from 20 to 60 - every five turn-ins you do gets you a scratch-off card that can give some valuable items that you can then flip on the market board for cash. I didn't even get any of the really high-dollar items leveling my crafting jobs and still came out of it with a profit. There's a document with recommended stat breakpoints, ability macros, and more for the entire process here. 2) Your very best friend for trying to work with crafting is Teamcraft and its crafting simulator. You can pick the exact thing you're trying to make, punch in your exact stats, and play with all the crafting abilities you'd have access to in a building block-like method to see how everything pieces together and what outcomes you should expect. You can then export that to an in-game macro to use if it something you're gonna repeat a lot. 3) Depending on the server you're on, if you're gonna do some crafting, try to find a kindly goon crafter to kit you out with some HQ crafting gear. The materials for doing so are piss cheap for us, and we get a ton of good brain chemicals seeing a sprout with our gear doing their best.  Crafting is kinda my jam and I'd be glad to answer other questions if you have em!
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…Well poo poo, and here I’d gone on a whole frenzy of leveling up the professions from scratch. If I’d known about that, I would have kept plowing through HW’s story.
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ShootaBoy posted:After that... whoo boy. A lot more, now celebratory drinks, and all told I spent about 6 hours mashing through story because dammit I wanted my fuckin' bird already. Related to that, I wanna slap whoever had the bright idea to make the Waking Sands need two fuckin' load screens for what amounts to a hallway and literally a single room. By the time I got to pick a company I was near fuming from having to go through 4-5 load screens every 15 fuckin' minutes. Definitely think I'm taking a bit of break from MSQ, cause I may just quit if I have to do that a bunch more right now, goddamn. Good news, the whole "pick your Grand Company" arc is the second worst part of the ARR MSQ. Bad news, the whole "pick your Grand Company" arc is the second worst part of the ARR MSQ.
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1stGear posted:Good news, the whole "pick your Grand Company" arc is the second worst part of the ARR MSQ. What’d you say is the worst, the arc where you help establish the Crystal Braves with a bunch of filler quests that take you everywhere?
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Regalingualius posted:What’d you say is the worst, the arc where you help establish the Crystal Braves with a bunch of filler quests that take you everywhere? No, it's earlier, when you contact the Company of Heroes to get help fighting Titan. Running around helping with a bunch of menial chores leading up to a banquet is just really annoying. It used to be worse, they trimmed a bunch of quests from that section. If it didn't include one of the best dungeons in ARR (Brayflox) it would be unbearable.
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Oof, yeah, agreed on that now that I remember it again.
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Regalingualius posted:What’d you say is the worst, the arc where you help establish the Crystal Braves with a bunch of filler quests that take you everywhere? IMO, the lead-up to Titan, where the game is wasting your time both in gameplay terms and narratively, is hands-down the nadir of ARR. I actually didn't mind the ARR patch quests as much I thought I would. Even though there's a bunch of filler quests, you are at least doing something important or meaningful to the story. The Crystal Braves stuff in particular was kind of neat because it was nice seeing tertiary characters that I had almost forgotten about and it felt like I was growing and improving the Scions (and obviously, the Braves are pretty important to the end of ARR). But the Titan buildup is just straight-up "gently caress you, we're stopping the plot so we can dick you around for a while."
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God that whole section was pain. And then at the end of it they pull the twist LOL WE WERE JUST TESTING YOU and I'm like gently caress OFF the realm is at stake you assholes! 
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I absolutely blacked out on that section of the plot, just turbogrind out the quests and then woke back up when I actually got to fight the primal. I had a similar spell during during 2.1-2.5 stuff until the 45 minutes of awesome cutscenes finally made me stop skipping quest dialogue. Heavensward has been excellent so far.
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The stuff leading up to the fight against Titan is nowhere near as bad as people here give it credit for. The corrupted crystals bullshit right before Garuda is the worst part of the ARR MSQ.
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I'm at the end of HW and noticing the teleport fees are getting pretty high since everything's further away now. I know there are ticket things for free teleports, but I'm curious what people's preferred/free aether points are. I have a preferred in UD and Gridania with my free in Limsa. FC house is in Limsa though so it may be economical for me to put my free teleport elsewhere... My Home point is wherever I feel is the next hub of quests so I can just jump out if I want to. (Gridania is still the most expensive even with the preferred :| )
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W.T. Fits posted:The stuff leading up to the fight against Titan is nowhere near as bad as people here give it credit for. Yeah, like the first one has an actual point. They're trying to make sure you're not just some self-serving glory hound that's in it for the prestige and the name - that you're actually there to help. Last thing we need is a tempered blowhard or another corpse to bury. The second one is literally just time-wasting bullshit.
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Zet posted:I'm at the end of HW and noticing the teleport fees are getting pretty high since everything's further away now. I think if you download and link 2-factor authentication and/or the companion app you get an extra favorite (half price) teleport location and the ability to set a free teleport destination. My Homepoint is Foundation. Gridania, Limsa, Mor Dhona, and the second ShB city are my half-cost spots, and Ul'dah is my free spot. It might be worth to move one of your half-cost spots away from Limsa if you can teleport there half-cost thanks to your FC. I recommend unlocking hunts so you can kill your weekly B-rank hunt for your Grand Company; that'll give you you 20 aetheryte tickets worth of seals for 20 free teleports a week. If you ever get around to doing Blue Mage, the Masked Carnivale will absolutely bury you in Allied Seals. I haven't paid over 200 gil for a teleport in like a year, and once you get to Stormblood it's going to start costing about 1k a teleport for long-distance jumps. e: you will be doing a lot of long distance jumps in stormblood Chillgamesh fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Even when I'm destitute after buying a fancy new glamour weapon, even 999 gil teleport fees aren't worth worrying about. You get so much just from doing duty roulettes, a mere 1k is nothing. That said, there are like three main regions, where the cost is maxed out going between them. There's Eorzea (the starter cities, Ishgard, Ala Mhigo), the Far East, and Spoiler Area For ShadowBringers. So you could minimize costs by putting one free/cheap aetheryte in each area. My FC has a house in the Far East, so I usually teleport there and then to the main city.
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Zet posted:I'm at the end of HW and noticing the teleport fees are getting pretty high since everything's further away now. My free is Ul'dah and my house is in Shirogane so I'm generally set for teleports; I don't do much in Shadowbringers Spoiler Zone now.
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IIRC they removed some extra steps from both of the Not Well Paced MSQ bits folks cite here, but they're still a slog. Both of them lead into some cool things though and the second of the two actually has the courtesy to do some lore building in the process. My home teleport is Ul'dah for easy GC access, I have Goblet and Mist teleports for FC and personal housing, my free TP is set for the first SHB hub and I have discount teleports in the endgame city for HW and the second main hub in SB. I will echo that even when you're spending 1k on a teleport it's a negligible expense ultimately.
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I've burnt through hundreds of tickets and even if you consider my average cost on them to be around 400 gil it's still a few hundred thousand gil. Considering everything that pays out allied seals also pays out something else and takes extremely minimal time and effort, it's not nothing.
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