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Salt Fish: Sep 11, 2003; Cybernetic Crumb

Working by age 15? My god, if you work that hard you surely must be a billionaire now!

# ? Aug 30, 2021 04:59

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Salt Fish: Sep 11, 2003; Cybernetic Crumb

...NOT!

# ? Aug 30, 2021 05:00

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Hizawk posted:

I remember back in seventh grade home economics class the teacher had one of the students give a speech to the rest of the class about working because they started working that year.

She was the poorest kid in class and went to work to help pay the rent for her parents.

Wow I hope she got on the evening news for being so #inspiring and #blessed

# ? Aug 30, 2021 06:13

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Hizawk posted:

She was the poorest kid in class and went to work to help pay the rent for her parents.

Imagine being so poor you have to rent parents :stonklol:

# ? Aug 30, 2021 06:20

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Rental Mommbies have been available for a while but I don't think it means the same thing

# ? Aug 30, 2021 06:27

Rondette: Nov 4, 2009; Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.; Grimey Drawer

Plank Walker posted:

those aren't real jobs, try being a landlord or a ceo

There's a local estate agent that has this infuriating sign in their window rn.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 10:18

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

Does it count as working/labour when kids become famous on youtube/twitch and start making good money

# ? Aug 30, 2021 11:53

Okuteru: Nov 10, 2007; Choose this life you're on your own

Zzulu posted:

Does it count as working/labour when kids become famous on youtube/twitch and start making good money

Only if they started 10 years ago. How many YouTube/twitch streamers who made it big came from humble beginnings?

# ? Aug 30, 2021 13:38

sarcastx: Feb 26, 2005

haven't checked in on C-SPAM in a while, wonder how things are going

oof
that's gotta be a sign or something but I don't know if it means "check more often" or "check never"

# ? Aug 30, 2021 13:50

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

sarcastx posted:

haven't checked in on C-SPAM in a while, wonder how things are going

oof
that's gotta be a sign or something but I don't know if it means "check more often" or "check never"

You missed so many derails about the metric system buddy, you're gonna have such a great time catching up

# ? Aug 30, 2021 13:52

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

Shame Boy posted:

That's gotta be a made-up justification to make some other worse reason more marketable (at least to idiot conservatives) right? Cuz like, it's not like the kids are the ones who have to pay for the lunches, so that reasoning just falls to bits if you think about it for more than a second.

the justification is its a rich school in a rich district and it's a way to keep poor people from coming to the school because they cannot afford lunch.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 14:21

Ruffian Price: Sep 17, 2016

Zzulu posted:

Does it count as working/labour when kids become famous on youtube/twitch and start making good money

why wouldn't it? they're selling labor to google and are absolutely getting hosed on the fruits, it doesn't matter if you've been conditioned to enjoy the process of production

# ? Aug 30, 2021 14:26

Shwqa: Feb 13, 2012

Shame Boy posted:

You missed so many derails about the metric system buddy, you're gonna have such a great time catching up

They also missed the dildo conversation. So it might break even.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 14:44

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Shwqa posted:

They also missed the dildo conversation. So it might break even.

Oh yeah, that was a good one. Made me dig out the old silicone molding stuff I bought back when to see if it's still good (seems like it is I guess?). I have a 3D printer now so I can get real creative

# ? Aug 30, 2021 14:51

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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# ? Aug 30, 2021 15:05

Large Testicles: Jun 1, 2020; [ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S

tokin opposition posted:

N-dimensional buttplug for sale, never used

prototype stuck in rear end

# ? Aug 30, 2021 16:59

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

My computer toucher job is requiring everyone to take a "personality test" in advance of a bullshit "teambuilding workshop". It's one of those things where they present two statements and you pick which you agree with more.

First question:
"In business, people are always ready to help others" vs "In business, people are only out to help themselves"

10Q's later:
"Social welfare programs are a sign of a civilized society" vs "Social welfare programs do more harm than good"

Bullshit this only ever gets used for a dumb teambuilding waste of time, I bet these results also get parsed by some consultant who sends the company a list of people like, "here's everyone who might be sympathetic to unionization/organizing at some point"

sooooo, pretty sure I need to lie on this thing yeah?

bawfuls has issued a correction as of 18:43 on Aug 30, 2021

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:39

Paladinus: Jan 11, 2014; heyHEYYYY!!!

bawfuls posted:

My computer toucher job is requiring everyone to take a "personality test" in advance of a bullshit "teambuilding workshop". It's one of those things where they present two statements and you pick which you agree with more.

First question:
"In business, people are always ready to help others" vs "In business, people are only out to help themselves"

10Q's later:
"Social welfare programs are a sign of a civilized society" vs "Social welfare programs do more harm than good"

Bullshit this only ever gets used for a dumb teambuilding waste of time, I bet these results also get parsed by some consultant who sends the company a list of people like, "here's everyone who might be sympathetic to unionization/organizing at some point"

No, they are not actually being used for anything.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:42

SpacePig: Apr 4, 2007; Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Paladinus posted:

No, they are not actually being used for anything.

That's not necessarily true. Depending on the personal information they have to give, they may be used to provide helpful targeted advertising from groups sponsoring and affiliated with the company putting on the seminar.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:45

Danaru: Jun 5, 2012; 何 ??

https://twitter.com/HalifaxReTales/status/1432379135641493513?s=19

Lol landlords are loving scum

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:48

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

bawfuls posted:

My computer toucher job is requiring everyone to take a "personality test" in advance of a bullshit "teambuilding workshop". It's one of those things where they present two statements and you pick which you agree with more.

First question:
"In business, people are always ready to help others" vs "In business, people are only out to help themselves"

10Q's later:
"Social welfare programs are a sign of a civilized society" vs "Social welfare programs do more harm than good"

Bullshit this only ever gets used for a dumb teambuilding waste of time, I bet these results also get parsed by some consultant who sends the company a list of people like, "here's everyone who might be sympathetic to unionization/organizing at some point"

sooooo, pretty sure I need to lie on this thing yeah?

It depends on how dumb you think your management is. It might be that the consultant is an HR dipshit who will score the tests and then split you into 4 groups and talk about how the Otters can learn to work with the Owls.

It's also possible your management are humongous idiots who think tests like that DO mean something. If they are very dumb, yes you should lie like crazy on that test.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:52

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

You should always just whip through those without reading the question or answers. Breeze through them like you're going for the record.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:59

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

"Everybody has the right to a decent job"
vs
"Many unemployed are unemployable"

followed by

"I like companies where there is an established structure"
vs
"I don't like the idea of hierarchies in companies"

Most of the questions are more about personal work habits and motivation but there are too many of these raising red flags.

edit:

PostNouveau posted:

It depends on how dumb you think your management is. It might be that the consultant is an HR dipshit who will score the tests and then split you into 4 groups and talk about how the Otters can learn to work with the Owls.

This is ostensibly the purpose. I'm just suspicious that a secondary purpose is identifying "potential troublemakers" or something. I mean that one Q is literally "do you think workplace democracy is good?"

bawfuls has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Aug 30, 2021

# ? Aug 30, 2021 19:07

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

bawfuls posted:

My computer toucher job is requiring everyone to take a "personality test" in advance of a bullshit "teambuilding workshop". It's one of those things where they present two statements and you pick which you agree with more.

First question:
"In business, people are always ready to help others" vs "In business, people are only out to help themselves"

10Q's later:
"Social welfare programs are a sign of a civilized society" vs "Social welfare programs do more harm than good"

Bullshit this only ever gets used for a dumb teambuilding waste of time, I bet these results also get parsed by some consultant who sends the company a list of people like, "here's everyone who might be sympathetic to unionization/organizing at some point"

sooooo, pretty sure I need to lie on this thing yeah?

What does it matter - you're already in the union.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 19:29

bag em and tag em: Nov 4, 2008

bawfuls posted:

"Everybody has the right to a decent job"
vs
"Many unemployed are unemployable"

followed by

"I like companies where there is an established structure"
vs
"I don't like the idea of hierarchies in companies"

Most of the questions are more about personal work habits and motivation but there are too many of these raising red flags.

edit:

This is ostensibly the purpose. I'm just suspicious that a secondary purpose is identifying "potential troublemakers" or something. I mean that one Q is literally "do you think workplace democracy is good?"

Which do you agree with more

It is best to die in the office at 43 of a stress induced heart attack, knowing I've given everything I can to The Company so it may grow and prosper.

Or

I like to spend time with "family" and "see my kids grow" and don't even loving care if that means profits go unearned

# ? Aug 30, 2021 20:52

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

# ? Aug 30, 2021 21:47

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Crosspostin' some Yikes from the 'pos

LanceHunter posted:

New FinTech innovation: A layaway service for your rent...

quote:
Enjoy more convenience and less stress with a rent payment option that alleviates the need to pay rent in a lump sum at the beginning of each month. Through the Flexible Lease Payment program your rent will be paid on-time on the first of each month while allowing you the flexibility of paying it back at a cadence of your choosing throughout the month. The only stipulation is you must pay back the full amount of your rent during the month in order to utilize service the following month. The way you pay is flexible too. You can setup automatic bank payments or use a credit card without incurring any fees. Positive payment history will be reported to the credit bureaus for accounts that are in good standing, which will even improve your credit score. The Flexible Lease Payment program doesn�t require long term commitment, allowing you the flexibility to participate in the program when you need it. All of this flexibility comes with a small flat monthly fee only paid when you choose to use the service.

I just got an opinion survey from my current building asking if I'd be interested in this kind of service. Apparently the fee to do it is just $20 (per each month you use it), but the entire notion of being even slightly behind on rent makes me extremely anxious. I can definitely see this being used to try and convince people to rent more expensive units than they might otherwise.

# ? Aug 31, 2021 18:13

IAMKOREA: Apr 21, 2007

bawfuls posted:

"Everybody has the right to a decent job"
vs
"Many unemployed are unemployable"

followed by

"I like companies where there is an established structure"
vs
"I don't like the idea of hierarchies in companies"

Most of the questions are more about personal work habits and motivation but there are too many of these raising red flags.

edit:

This is ostensibly the purpose. I'm just suspicious that a secondary purpose is identifying "potential troublemakers" or something. I mean that one Q is literally "do you think workplace democracy is good?"

haha jesus these are insane questions to ask, it is absolutely to identify potential troublemakers. this isn't a personality test, this is an 'are you a bootlicker' test.

# ? Aug 31, 2021 18:22

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

IAMKOREA posted:

haha jesus these are insane questions to ask, it is absolutely to identify potential troublemakers. this isn't a personality test, this is an 'are you a bootlicker' test.

More like it's the "are you a loving moron who truthfully answers employment questionnaires" test

# ? Aug 31, 2021 19:14

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

Shame Boy posted:

Crosspostin' some Yikes from the 'pos

Twenty bucks to do what I already can with online payments?

# ? Aug 31, 2021 19:38

BonHair: Apr 28, 2007

HootTheOwl posted:

Twenty bucks to do what I already can with online payments?

I thought the same, then I thought that the target demographic is probably people who don't have online banking. Then I checked my privilege and didn't post because I'm pretty sure I don't get it anyway. But I'm willing to bet that this app is preying on the poor, especially those with unpredictable incomes.

# ? Aug 31, 2021 19:50

Hurt Whitey Maybe: Jun 26, 2008; I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

it�s a payday loan, but it goes to your rent

# ? Aug 31, 2021 20:14

stringless: Dec 28, 2005; keyboard ⌨️ cowboy

and if you don't manage to pay them off in time, now you've got two sets of late fees!

# ? Aug 31, 2021 20:21

Toph Bei Fong: Feb 29, 2008

Failed Imagineer posted:

More like it's the "are you a loving moron who truthfully answers employment questionnaires" test

Pretty much.

I once had a pre-screening questionnaire ask "How would you describe your crack use? a. Do not use b. Occasional c. Moderate but under control or d. A problem"

The test is about whether you're smart enough to lie and tell them what they want to hear, not about any actual values you may or may not hold

# ? Aug 31, 2021 20:23

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

BonHair posted:

I thought the same, then I thought that the target demographic is probably people who don't have online banking. Then I checked my privilege and didn't post because I'm pretty sure I don't get it anyway. But I'm willing to bet that this app is preying on the poor, especially those with unpredictable incomes.

Even without online banking.
Whatever system I use to deliver payments to my landlord: What's stopping me today from giving them 1/4th or whatever every week now?

# ? Aug 31, 2021 21:20

Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

HootTheOwl posted:

Even without online banking.
Whatever system I use to deliver payments to my landlord: What's stopping me today from giving them 1/4th or whatever every week now?

You landlord will get mad if those payments are coming after the due date. These guys will pay your rent on the 1st and then you have the whole month to pay them back. Of course once you do that you'll never be able to quit the service because that would mean during a single month you would need to make enough money to pay back the loan and pay your next month's rent -- effectively enough money to pay your rent twice in a single month. It's a trap.

# ? Aug 31, 2021 21:36

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Facebook Aunt posted:

You landlord will get mad if those payments are coming after the due date. These guys will pay your rent on the 1st and then you have the whole month to pay them back. Of course once you do that you'll never be able to quit the service because that would mean during a single month you would need to make enough money to pay back the loan and pay your next month's rent -- effectively enough money to pay your rent twice in a single month. It's a trap.

no, no you just get a payday loan to pay back the rent forwarder and then

# ? Aug 31, 2021 21:41

Biplane: Jul 18, 2005

The Bloop posted:

no, no you just get a payday loan to pay back the rent forwarder and then

The Economy!! (to the tune of "The Aristocrats!!")

# ? Aug 31, 2021 21:42

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Pretty much.

I once had a pre-screening questionnaire ask "How would you describe your crack use? a. Do not use b. Occasional c. Moderate but under control or d. A problem"

The test is about whether you're smart enough to lie and tell them what they want to hear, not about any actual values you may or may not hold

Jokes on you I only hire the occasional crack users

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World War Mammories: Aug 25, 2006

it just makes sense. someone who only uses crack occasionally has excellent self-control

# ? Aug 31, 2021 21:52

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