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Yeah, Sherlock Holmes may be a watershed of mystery fiction but they are absolutely not true detective stories of the kind Umineko concerns itself with.
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Endorph posted:frankly id be way more into them bringing back bolonco than bringing holmes in Which season was Bolonco in again (based on the artstyle I’m guessing 2 or 3)? And speaking of Lupin, is the side series A Woman Called Fujiko Mine any good? Larryb fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:No but as I get across with my Hyouka suggestion earlier I think there exists anime that end up as being better adaptions of the spirit of Sherlock Holmes stories by not actually adapting the stories than the actual adaptions themselves. Umineko (its been a while so I only have a vague recollection) has a lot of focus on the truth of statements, and evidence and so on which I think is pretty in keeping with the spirit of Sherlock Holmes and the mystery genre. This sounds like you're arguing the entire mystery genre is a Sherlock Holmes adaptation.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:10 |
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I liked it a lot as it does a real good job of feeling different from the typical Lupin series while still also feeling like a Lupin show in the end. Also Zenigata being more serious helped out a lot as the last few specials before Fujiko Mine just had him be way too silly
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:11 |
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Me reading the intro for 999: getting a lot of Sherlock Holmes vibes from this
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:13 |
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he should be called lubin the third
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woman called fujiko mine is what a good lupin with serial elements should aspire to it's not going to replace the simple episodic stuff and the fun and levity that often has, but it looks different and great and having some darkness in lupin is a welcome contrast
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:17 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Seeing Oshii on Lupin after Vlad love and liking the last few TV series has tempered my expectations maybe he'll be a better writer when he's not half-assedly rehashing a mediocre vn he wrote years ago into a bad yuri comedy anime
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kirbysuperstar posted:more viridi warcrimes please
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:32 |
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i will be the only person who was amused during vladlove and stick to it
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Willo567 posted:Nadia uses the Blue Water to give Nia the lifespan of a human Heck yeah
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 06:43 |
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there are some amusing gags in vlad love but whenever i think back on it it is really weird that it engages with the yuri aspect the least of any yuri comedy i've ever watched. especially since oshibudo and adashima aired in the same year vlad love started coming out, both of which are, kinda way better shows even for adashima's painfully slow pacing and how very little of the story it actually covers. at least adashima is more consistently funny and has better side characters. that said it's not a terrible show in the moment of watching (outside of a couple eps, i never want to see the flashback ep or jellyfish ep again) but i just kinda feel increasingly annoyed by it The Colonel fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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hercule poirot kicks sherlock holmes rear end, because agatha christie can actually write a mystery
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 08:45 |
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Hyouka is a lot closer to an Agatha Christie work in spirit. (Lots of stuff about the motivations of characters, very little "aha I noticed a tiny bit of evidence that changes everything", and also a lot of playing around with the structure of a detective story)
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 09:17 |
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can't wait until they make lupin vs miss marple
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 09:59 |
lupin vs the hardy boys
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 10:19 |
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homeless snail posted:hercule poirot kicks sherlock holmes rear end, because agatha christie can actually write a mystery
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 10:25 |
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Patware posted:lupin vs the hardy boys In a ladder match.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 10:30 |
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Patware posted:lupin vs the hardy boys
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 11:18 |
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homeless snail posted:hercule poirot kicks sherlock holmes rear end, because agatha christie can actually write a mystery Agatha Christie ftw Especially when “and then there were none” had 3 separate postscript chapters because the general audience (me) was too stupid to figure out how it happened
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 11:34 |
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i killed them
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 12:04 |
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Fangz posted:Hyouka is a lot closer to an Agatha Christie work in spirit. (Lots of stuff about the motivations of characters, very little "aha I noticed a tiny bit of evidence that changes everything", and also a lot of playing around with the structure of a detective story) Hyouka and Umineko are both part of the Shin Honkaku tradition, an intentional return to Christie-style fair-play whodunits that started in the 80s with Soji Shimada's "The Tokyo Zodiac Murders"
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 12:52 |
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Anyway I think the true heir of Sherlock Holmes (or Herlock Sholmes) is probably the Ace Attorney games.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 13:05 |
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have only heard about taniguchi and his body of work, but i'm still real excited about this thing i didn't know existed until today https://twitter.com/catsuka/status/1432777336861216770
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 15:05 |
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I spoiled myself on Muv Luv Alternative and I don't know how to feel
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 15:07 |
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Zeether posted:I spoiled myself on Muv Luv Alternative and I don't know how to feel Feel liberated as you don't need to read the 180 hour vn or the 52 episode television series. Live and be free
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The Colonel posted:that said it's not a terrible show in the moment of watching (outside of a couple eps, i never want to see the flashback ep or jellyfish ep again) but i just kinda feel increasingly annoyed by it Yeah, when I finished it I didn't hate it at first, just was more annoyed and disappointed. But as time goes on I get more mad at it especially cause it did nothing with Mai and Banba's relationship
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 16:24 |
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I am gazing into my crystal ball and peering through the cloudy veil of time. Someone in the Muv Luv Alternative thread will claim all mecha is inherently fascistic before the year is through. There may also be a significant derail where people argue over Attack in Titan for some reason, although that is but a possibility.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 17:42 |
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it’s important not to lose your head while talking about muv luv
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Coaaab posted:have only heard about taniguchi and his body of work, but i'm still real excited about this thing i didn't know existed until today This made me remember The Climber and now I'm sad that'll never be adapted into anything.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 18:05 |
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GorfZaplen posted:I am gazing into my crystal ball and peering through the cloudy veil of time. Someone in the Muv Luv Alternative thread will claim all mecha is inherently fascistic before the year is through. There may also be a significant derail where people argue over Attack in Titan for some reason, although that is but a possibility. lol
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 18:45 |
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Mecha are inherently cool as hell.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 18:53 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Mecha are inherently cool as hell. This person has the right of it.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Mecha are inherently cool as hell. every anime series should have at least one mecha in it
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 18:54 |
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i'll be reccing yuuki yuuna to everyone in the mla thread
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 18:55 |
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theres like 5 other mecha shows next season, are people really gonna be starved enough to watch a bad looking muv luv adaptation
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 19:27 |
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I am yes.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 19:30 |
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GorfZaplen posted:I am gazing into my crystal ball and peering through the cloudy veil of time. Someone in the Muv Luv Alternative thread will claim all mecha is inherently fascistic before the year is through. There may also be a significant derail where people argue over Attack in Titan for some reason, although that is but a possibility.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 19:41 |
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also muv-luv is a decent story honestly. unlimited and extra drag in parts but alternative is a pretty good thriller with a good amount of twists and turns that never really slows down *that* much relative to its medium, its long but not actually that slow. a lot actually happens to justify that length. characters are all a bit one note except for the professor and maybe shirogane, but you feel for them. a bit of its navel gazing on the glory of the japanese army or how people who live in peace can never truly mature is pretty lol, especially since the writers are not 90 years old and thus also didnt live through ww2, but it doesnt really get overbearing with it. the anime could be okay if it focuses on what makes the story good and does a good job establishing the stakes for new people, but its a vn adaptation so it will probably adapt every single random conversation about shirogane's game boy color in painstaking detail.
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# ? Sep 1, 2021 19:43 |
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glad the game boy thread will be well stocked that season
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