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Have you ever played a gacha game like Raid Shadow Legends? It’ll be like that. My big problem is you use gold to upgrade your town so you basically have to decide between playing Constructed or Mercenaries. It should really have its own currency. I’m also a bit worried about it pulling Dev time away from the main game but I assume(hope) it’s a separate team.
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Mayveena posted:The cards you get from packs can't be played in PvP?? Once you upgrade your "camp" to have an "arena" you will be able to pit your mercenaries against other players. I think. I kinda lost interest halfway through and just left it running for the second free pack.
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RatHat posted:Have you ever played a gacha game like Raid Shadow Legends?
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CapnAndy posted:No, because they're glorified slot machines except with 0% chance of making a profit! And guess what mercenaries will be
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RatHat posted:And guess what mercenaries will be
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I was going to say, releasing a gacha game when goodwill in the company as it an all-time low is a big-brain play on Blizzard's part, but the bigger-brain play is making defensive mercenaries colour-coded red and offensive mercenaries colour-coded green 
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Aug 31, 2021 21:59
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I mean the battlegrounds stuff is just skins
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Aug 31, 2021 21:59
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RatHat posted:I mean the battlegrounds stuff is just skins
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I didn't know that people actually played Raid Shadow Legends, I thought it was just a youtube meme
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Aug 31, 2021 22:09
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I just had a hilarious build with parrots, baron and that new imp that gives it's health to other minions. I was getting 300+ health minions on turn 9. Unfortunately another guy had full poison murlocs.
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Well, seeing how disastrously Mercenaries is already being received takes a lot of the sting out of quitting after the harassment suit came up. Especially since this was the one Blizz game that I’d had some second thoughts about coming back to.
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Firebert posted:I didn't know that people actually played Raid Shadow Legends, I thought it was just a youtube meme It was just an example, there are other popular gachas like Marvel Future Fight, Fire Emblem Heroes, Fate/Grand Order, ect.
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CapnAndy posted:Yes I understand that too, but it looks ugly. You go to the storefront and Battlegrounds looks like a game mode that costs $70, and it signals a really predatory mindset, because $20 for seven skins and a bartender is where-the-gently caress-do-you-get-off levels of effrontery. And then, off of that, their next move is to announce a gacha game mode that's completely incompatible with the rest of the game to the point where it has its own packs that don't interact with your existing collection at all, and... Blizzard doesn't have any goodwill with anyone right now, including me. They don't actually have the luxury of acting this goddamn shady. The other annoying part is I gotta scroll past all this "deals" to get to buying packs with gold. And it actually a bit tricky on mobile. You gotta scroll on the exact area that isn't the huge button or outside the window.
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Yeah the fact it has no interaction with the main game at all, it is basically a standalone game, is off putting.
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RatHat posted:It was just an example, there are other popular gachas like Marvel Future Fight, Fire Emblem Heroes, Fate/Grand Order, ect. Fire emblem is a least controllable. This seems like you just put your hero in a team and let fate take the wheel. Auto battler work because the strategy involved with setting up the team. Usually F2p just have more stats equals win. And the way to more stats is pay money.
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Shwqa posted:Fire emblem is a least controllable. This seems like you just put your hero in a team and let fate take the wheel. The video was terrible but they do a fine job explaining on the site and it honestly sounds pretty fun. Hate that it's got a booster pack model though.
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The Mech soul juggler minion is insane. Got me my first spicy pretzel mustard with a pretty bad board:
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Blooming Brilliant posted:bigger-brain play is making defensive mercenaries colour-coded red and offensive mercenaries colour-coded green Red means stop, green means go (face). Would have been good to actually show proper gameplay, instead of it just being info and snippets of "watch this attack! Ooh big numbers". I have no idea if I'm going to care about it, but I guess it should also grant XP from playing if you've got to spend gold on it too. I'll see if it's worth doing for that aspect instea dof battlegrounds for my bonus xp. Edit: Also they didn't gently caress up the twitch thing like last time: You could have it open on a hearthstone stream beforehand, and then it would count progress for both packs without needing to claim the first.
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Shwqa posted:The other annoying part is I gotta scroll past all this "deals" to get to buying packs with gold. And it actually a bit tricky on mobile. You gotta scroll on the exact area that isn't the huge button or outside the window. That's what I hate about it. I don't really care much whether the paid bonuses exist, but it's legitimately hard to scroll past them to what I actually want.
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I feel like a lot of people forget that Blizzard is long dead and they are actually Activision.
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Piggy Smalls posted:Really liking this deck. So this is a really fun deck and all... but how do you beat Shaman? Those annoying elemental ones especially. I feel like they just overwhelm me with minions and there's nothing I can do about it. Is it literally just "pray for Soul Rend"?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:So this is a really fun deck and all... but how do you beat Shaman? Those annoying elemental ones especially. I feel like they just overwhelm me with minions and there's nothing I can do about it. Is it literally just "pray for Soul Rend"? uh, yea quest handlock is insanely favored vs Shaman, both questline and elemental. You can keep Soul Rend in the mulligan yes, but otherwise the normal operation of the deck should just crush them.
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Against aggro decks like Shaman that run out of steam quick I wouldn't even keep the quest in the mulligan. Of course there's no way to tell it's an Aggro Shaman before the mulligan.
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Menagerie in bgs is dead, I guess? I think amalga is the only thing they have now, without arm/harbinger or mythrax to help shore things up. Though I'm also bad at bgs.CapnAndy posted:No, because they're glorified slot machines except with 0% chance of making a profit! at least most gacha games give me pngs of anime girls to fill the void. What does this have, diablo and sylvanas? Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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dang I'm rusty barely staying above 50% with quest shaman
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Acerbatus posted:Menagerie in bgs is dead, I guess? I think amalga is the only thing they have now, without arm/harbinger or mythrax to help shore things up. Uh nope, menagerie is still good, came 1st several times tonight with menagerie comps (curator/queen wagtoggle/cariel roame)
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There seems to be a bug in Battlegrounds right now with the interaction between Razorgore and Whelp Smuggler that lets Razorgore get obscene amounts of health. Only the normal version of Razorgore too, not golden. Anyway use it until it's hotfixed. EDIT: Smuggler is also super busted with C'thun RatHat fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Flayer posted:It is confusing right now with no real idea of what a Mercenary pack is actually worth gameplay wise or what the release rate for Mercenary content will be. Like do they expect players to be buying a similar number of packs compared to the the normal Hearthstone mode per season? Are packs going to be 100 gold? Will there be increased gold earning to compensate or will it basically be choose one over the other or spend shed loads of cash? Yeah i am in this bucket for sure. I like hearthstone a lot and have many of the hearthstone things but is this even going to be good? I genuinely can't tell. There sure are a lot of other run-based single player content in Hearthstone and Hearthstone already has lots of PVP. I like progression, though, that's why I have many of the Hearthstone things. But If I want THESE hearthstone things I gotta shell out $67 for diamblo and $67 for diamitch king and $40 for goldvanas? Before I even know if this is any good or if I like it or how packs work and everyone seems kind of weirded out by it? And the presenters in the livestream kind of look like they were crying backstage like they're being held hostage or some poo poo? I just uh don't know about this
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AnacondaHL posted:uh, yea quest handlock is insanely favored vs Shaman, both questline and elemental. You can keep Soul Rend in the mulligan yes, but otherwise the normal operation of the deck should just crush them. What, really? Elemental Shaman is the only deck I’ve lost to so far. By like turn 3 or 4 they have so many minions on board that I just wind up losing as they beat me down.
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 end result of a turn 7 golden nosy looter
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RatHat posted:EDIT: Smuggler is also super busted with C'thun Nah this seems fine 
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Acerbatus posted:Menagerie in bgs is dead, I guess? I think amalga is the only thing they have now, without arm/harbinger or mythrax to help shore things up. Though I'm also bad at bgs. Arm is still in the game. Also still got mug, brann, lightfang. You got the new oil bot which buffs permentantly on loss of divine shield. And a few of avenge help as well.
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Acerbatus posted:Menagerie in bgs is dead, I guess? I think amalga is the only thing they have now, without arm/harbinger or mythrax to help shore things up. Though I'm also bad at bgs. Menagerie is about having the best units of every tribe with good scaling. So you want cards like hydra, foe reaper and divine shields to name a few. I rarely picked mythrax because he was too slow and weak to poison.
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This morning I was ready to raid my extras to craft the Shaman questline. Then I opened my rewards packs and found it! Questline Shaman is a good time right now.
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So I'm guessing Blizzard's response to turning their game into Trolden OTKStone is "let's just add another game mode and hope the shiny distracts them until the next expansion?"
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So I'm guessing Blizzard's response to turning their game into Trolden OTKStone is "let's just add another game mode and hope the shiny distracts them until the next expansion?" This would have started development long before the lawsuit was announced. I'm sure they hope it's a distraction but it's couldn't have been created for that purpose.
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