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Keetron posted:When I was reading this, all I could think of was: relax and get a bigger journal, they come in A4 / letter size. That sounds good, thanks.
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Heath posted:Yeah? Is there a reason why you shouldn't? Covid doesn't count Driving in downtown Chicago is rear end. Chip McFuck posted:Which one are you thinking of going to? I love Atlas's wall of notebooks. I'm sad that Anderson's is closed, but I heard they're reopening it next month! See that's what I'd likely get, though I have a nice one en route already! Also I'd rather go up to Anderson up in Appleton. Yeah further drive but you don't deal with downtown Chicago.
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Is the Diamine Inkvent calendar worth it? I keep going back and forth on it
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God dammnit I'm working a Delta pen this week, and it's a model I don't have. WHY DO YOU MOCK ME, OH CRUEL, CRUEL WORLD
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Niemat posted:Is the Diamine Inkvent calendar worth it? I keep going back and forth on it Oh, I'm not happy that I know this exists now. ETA: that overpriced dip pen looks neat mostly because they seem to get really consistent lines that I've never managed to get with one of my glass pens. It's possible that this is a problem that could be solved with better technique.
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I got the Diamine Inkvent calendar one year and it's very fun! A great way to practice your dip pen technique, too, since there's a new ink to try each day. By December 14th I had much more consistent writing using my glass dip pen than before.
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Ah ha ha ha Client asked me if I could grind their pen to write broader Of course I said yes.
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I hate money. I now have one of these on order
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iospace posted:I hate money. That looks really neat! Out of curiosity, how much of a difference is there between the nib on a cheap pen (like the Metro) and the nib on a high end pen? I know the nicer pens use higher end metals, but is the machining very different? I'm still really happy with my Metro, but I'm thinking about asking for a cool pen next birthday/Christmas/whatever.
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iospace posted:I hate money. I have one on order as well from Pen Chalet.
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It’s complicated. You can absolutely manufacture a flexible steel nib, you can absolutely grind it smooth as you like in any shape. BUT Broadly speaking, though, the more you pay, the more effort goes into the pen. Fancy grinds, exciting materials, hand-tuning etc. E: it’s easier to make a bunch Bouncy nib from gold, too.
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Uganda Loves Me posted:That looks really neat! Out of curiosity, how much of a difference is there between the nib on a cheap pen (like the Metro) and the nib on a high end pen? I know the nicer pens use higher end metals, but is the machining very different? I'm still really happy with my Metro, but I'm thinking about asking for a cool pen next birthday/Christmas/whatever. The real answer is "there is none" because a high end nib, if it has even a minor defect, can be as poor a writer as a mass produced low-end nib. It really varies from individual pen to pen more than between actual dollar amounts. Some of my best writers are my cheapest, and my most expensive pen writes like poo poo. As far as materials are concerned, there is a difference between steel and gold, but that difference is really a matter of preference. I've experimented by handing pens to friends who are not pen people and asking them which felt better, knowing only that the nibs were different materials (using a black VP gold nib, and a gold-colored steel Capless nib) and the opinions were pretty split.
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Obviously it varies a ton based on price and brand and what ink you're using and all other kinds of factors, but personally I haven't found that there's much difference in the actual writing experience between, say, a Metro and a more expensive steel-nibbed pen, at least not with any consistency. I have one TWSBI that weirdly writes smoother than anything other than my most expensive gold-nibbed pens, but I have another pen of the same model with ostensibly the same nib that's just fine. I've only really found a difference in writing in the jump from steel to gold, and my two gold-nibbed pens are the best writers I have. You can definitely have worse steel nibs and better steel nibs, but I think the quality of Metros are a good indication of the sort of theoretical "middle" writing quality of steel nibs. It's possible I'm buying the wrong sorts of steel-nibbed pens, or just getting unlucky, but most of my steel nib pens write just fine, but aren't particularly remarkable. If I had to guess, the more money you pay for a pen with a steel nib, the more you're paying for body material/craftsmanship, filling mechanism, bells and whistles, or just straight up brand-name tax or magical marketing woo. I do have some steel-nib pens that feel better to write with than a Metro, but mostly because of the particular length or texture on the section or balance or whatever, usually not because the nib itself is appreciably better than the Metro. The biggest jump in writing quality I had was when I got my first gold nib, which was a Vanishing Point, iirc. edit: though along the lines of what Heath is saying above, it's possible my VP feels like a "better" writer because it flows really cleanly with just about any ink, so yeah, could also just be manufacturing luck-of-the-draw as opposed to it being gold.
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Sorry for the double-post but I have a question of my own: I'd like to get into a smallish notebook "system" with some options for planners, blank notebooks, random other crap. I think I've settled on the Traveler's Notebook as the best option for what I'm looking for, but I'm curious about the covers. Are the actual Midori TR covers the best way to go, or are some of the knock-offs or Etsy store options better for less money? I'd like something leather, and that will last a long time with regular care, so I don't really want to save $30 on a knock off only to have the leather cracking in a year's time or whatever. Bonus question, does anybody have a strong recommendation for any other notebook systems that I should look at?
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iospace posted:I hate money. Is this the LE or the clicky one?
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gschmidl posted:Is this the LE or the clicky one? Clicky, only type they had in that color. Actually I got lucky I went in person to Atlas, because they were sold out online and had reserved a couple for in person visits... of which I nabbed. 
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iospace posted:Clicky, only type they had in that color. Very nice! That made me look up what happened to the LS and quote:[July 2021 Update] Pilot has recalled all retailer inventory of the Vanishing Point LS due to concerns regarding the quality of the retraction mechanism. This collection is on hiatus pending further notice from Pilot, Japan. I love my LS, it's the best pen I've ever used 
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Oh and I forgot to mention I picked up a demonstrator Monza with an omniflex nib. E: 
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MockingQuantum posted:Sorry for the double-post but I have a question of my own: check out Galen Leather, they might have some notebook covers to your liking, now with old tomoe river paper fillings to go with it.
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gschmidl posted:Very nice! That made me look up what happened to the LS and Update on this: they're apparently prone to rust in the knocker and Pilot will be replacing the part later this year, if anyone else has one. Naturally I had to order a Black Ice just in case.
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Cult Pens sent my order and sure enough, they included the cap for my mini fountain pen - I lost mine a couple of weeks ago. Very kind of them! It was in a little ziploc bag with a bit of paper with my name on it so I guess they put it aside when I emailed them and then just put it in with my order. Adorable. I love that store.
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Sooo none knows any ballpoint converter pens I guess?gschmidl posted:Update on this: they're apparently prone to rust in the knocker Same 
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What do you mean by a ballpoint converter?
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Just any ballpoint where I can use my own ink, any filling system is fine I guess and actually yeah I suppose you wouldn't be able to draw ink up past the ball.
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Ballpoint usually refers to a pen that uses an ink that's kind of paste-y rather than liquid, so there wouldn't be any "true" ballpoints that use fountain pen ink, there are rollerball pens that do, though. It seems like a dumb semantic thing but the pen world does pretty universally define them differently. If you search around google for rollerball pens that take fountain pen ink you'll run into a few, I imagine. I know J. Herbin, Monteverdi, and Schon DSGN all make one, I'm sure there are a couple more floating around. edit: Traveller's Company/Midori makes a pocket rollerball that takes FP ink too. Also it looks like Regal has rollerballs in a handful of colors, I'm not personally familiar with the brand though. MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Thanks! That does give me something to go on, I'll have myself a look.
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There are fountain pens that use the narrow Pilot Precise-style nib that may fit what you're looking for. They're not properly a ball point though.
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I've used a fine tip Metro, is that the same nib?
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No, it's a rollerball but it has a feed in it with liquid ink so it functions a lot like a fountain pen. Look up Pilot Precise V5. One of my favorite pens. Edit: Here is the one I was thinking of. I can't speak to how well these actually work, but the 360⁰ nibs do exist. Heath fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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It's so pretty But it's not mine  
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What should I do with a pen that will only write with a lot of pressure? I assume there's some kind of tuning I should be doing, but I don't know what. If I wipe the back of the nib along paper it always leaves a streak, so it's feeding fine, I just have to apply a lot of pressure to get ink on paper. Is this where I need to pry the tines apart a tiny bit? Do I need to polish part of the nib? I don't have a loupe so I can't look super close at the surface to see any imperfections.
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Also, I have decided that the Homo Sapien is my grail pen, namely the Blizzard one. Want so bad.
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MockingQuantum posted:Sorry for the double-post but I have a question of my own: tn are good (and i have a couple myself) but you do pay a markup for the trendy brand, they are really just a rectangle of reasonable quality leather with an elastic band - you could def find something equal for less on etsy or other places if you dont care about the name attached to it. refills, too - and in fact you'll probably find more interesting stuff if you look around as a lot of people make their own cut to size on account of tn being so popular
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22 Eargesplitten posted:What should I do with a pen that will only write with a lot of pressure? I assume there's some kind of tuning I should be doing, but I don't know what. If I wipe the back of the nib along paper it always leaves a streak, so it's feeding fine, I just have to apply a lot of pressure to get ink on paper. Is this where I need to pry the tines apart a tiny bit? Do I need to polish part of the nib? I don't have a loupe so I can't look super close at the surface to see any imperfections. The tines need to be spread apart slightly. It's not difficult to do, but you need a loupe to properly inspect the nib before and afterwards.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:What should I do with a pen that will only write with a lot of pressure? I assume there's some kind of tuning I should be doing, but I don't know what. If I wipe the back of the nib along paper it always leaves a streak, so it's feeding fine, I just have to apply a lot of pressure to get ink on paper. Is this where I need to pry the tines apart a tiny bit? Do I need to polish part of the nib? I don't have a loupe so I can't look super close at the surface to see any imperfections. http://www.richardspens.com/ref/nibs/beginners.htm This is a good starting point, particularly the PDF linked in there.
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Does anyone have any experience using Osprey pens? Specifically, their Flexpert replacement kits? https://www.ospreypens.com/collections/nib-units-1/products/osprey-flexpert-zebra-g-titanium-nib-unit-with-custom-converter I've long desired a dip nib in a fountain pen body and I've never been able to get any of the common frankenpens to work. An Osprey scholar + flexpert kit is also only about $50 which, while not overly cheap and will need replacement nibs, seems pretty good.
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I just noticed on that pen I mentioned that won't write without a lot of pressure that the feed is significantly misaligned from the slit, would that cause an issue? I see the ink welled up behind the feed but it doesn't seem to want to go down the slit to the tip.
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MockingQuantum posted:Ballpoint usually refers to a pen that uses an ink that's kind of paste-y rather than liquid, so there wouldn't be any "true" ballpoints that use fountain pen ink, there are rollerball pens that do, though. It seems like a dumb semantic thing but the pen world does pretty universally define them differently. If you search around google for rollerball pens that take fountain pen ink you'll run into a few, I imagine. I know J. Herbin, Monteverdi, and Schon DSGN all make one, I'm sure there are a couple more floating around. I wish I could tell you how the J. Herbin one works.. My kid got one for Christmas as he likes FB's but it's still in the wrapper. It takes regular JHerbin cartridges and you can stick a (montverde?) converter on it. no clue how well it works. I should commandeer it from him
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I'd be interested in knowing how well it does, at work we use horrible little carbon copy books for purchase orders and it's the only thing I still use the lovely work pens for. You've got to write on those things like you've been buying copper from Ea-nasir, otherwise the copy doesn't come out.
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Yeah it's good practice to carry a ballpoint for those kinds of things. FPs will never work well on transfer paper.
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