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Gramps posted:sure, but you can't prove motivation. I agree that sandbagging and playing slowly is lovely, but you are not required to scoop, ever. I already said that it is really hard to prove. Remember the penalty for stalling is disqualification so it should be really hard if not neigh impossible to prove.
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Its a judgement call either way. The only person who has to be convinced is the judge. You can complain how unfair it was at dairy queen.
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HootTheOwl posted:I already said that it is really hard to prove. Remember the penalty for stalling is disqualification so it should be really hard if not neigh impossible to prove. I've seen it happen several times in person and it was EXTREMELY blatant in all cases. I got my opponent a game loss at regionals like 15 years ago cause he won game 1 but I dusted him after sideboarding so he started playing real slow during game 3 and since it was the last round of pools we were one of the only games still going and the judge was right there. I didn't make the cut and he just missed by one win, but gently caress that guy.
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Gramps posted:I've seen it happen several times in person and it was EXTREMELY blatant in all cases. I got my opponent a game loss at regionals like 15 years ago cause he won game 1 but I dusted him after sideboarding so he started playing real slow during game 3 and since it was the last round of pools we were one of the only games still going and the judge was right there. I didn't make the cut and he just missed by one win, but gently caress that guy. So then what are you trying to say? Because it sounds you know that trying to drag a match to time is illegal. What am I missing?
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HootTheOwl posted:neigh Non-horses say "nigh" typically. If owls are horses, my bad. Gramps posted:I've seen it happen several times in person and it was EXTREMELY blatant in all cases. I got my opponent a game loss at regionals like 15 years ago cause he won game 1 but I dusted him after sideboarding so he started playing real slow during game 3 and since it was the last round of pools we were one of the only games still going and the judge was right there. I didn't make the cut and he just missed by one win, but gently caress that guy. Yeah I've never seen it be non-obvious. I think pretty much any situation where someone is intentionally slow playing to prevent a loss is clear. There are situations where I've seen people get pulled by a judge and asked what they're thinking because it looks like slow play, but it's always reasonable.
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https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1433437059818131456 This is pretty good...........
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Sep 2, 2021 15:33
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Next they should make a Bloodborne set with the moon phases. Namaste
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HootTheOwl posted:So then what are you trying to say? Because it sounds you know that trying to drag a match to time is illegal. This is what I was responding to originally HootTheOwl posted:if you are intentionally trying to draw a game (via time) then you're playing slowly because it presupposes that either a) you know you can't win and spending any more than zero seconds on decisions is wasting time since you've accepted your decisions don't matter. Basically my point was playing for a draw is not illegal as long as you aren't stalling to do so. It's the stalling part that's illegal. You're under no obligation to rush your turns or give away any information to your opponent just because time is about to be called and you can't win.
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Sep 2, 2021 16:03
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It's an anomaly caused by tournaments operating under "saved by the bell" rules. Could end up making the Book/Haven combo substantially worse in paper than on MtGO or Arena.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Next they should make a Bloodborne set with the moon phases. Namaste SOI is basically this. It came out a year after Bloodborne release too 
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Sep 2, 2021 16:15
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Time is kind of a problem in legacy right now. Bant control is a popular deck that can take forever to win, I've seen the mirror go to time in g2 before without either player really slow playing at all. Both sides just have too many answers.
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Sep 2, 2021 16:25
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http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/galvaniciteration.html There’s the cross support with Strixhaven Imagine copying Magma Opus with this
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Sep 2, 2021 16:48
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Enjoying the implied "1UURR: trigger Magecraft 5 times (if you cast another spell)" mode
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Sep 2, 2021 16:54
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I just realized that Joe Manganiello is on this stream because he played a werewolf on True Blood (in addition to being a huge TTG nerd)
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Sep 2, 2021 17:03
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It's striking how much better actual actors are at acting.
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Sep 2, 2021 17:03
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New token drawback keyword is "decayed" (can't block, sacrifice it at EOT if it attacked)
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Sep 2, 2021 17:14
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Hell,
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Sep 2, 2021 17:16
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goferchan posted:New token drawback keyword is "decayed" (can't block, sacrifice it at EOT if it attacked) This is like, a few different things from Legends of Runeterra rolled into one.
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Sep 2, 2021 17:23
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 These new duals seem really good. Turn 1 is usually the best time to have a tapland and they come in untapped on turn 3 or later.
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Sep 2, 2021 17:35
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Called shot: There will be a 2/1 for B decayed Zombie you can cast from your yard. Decayed crawler.
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Sep 2, 2021 17:37
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/spoilers/Innistrad+Midnight+Hunt#paper everything so far that's been revealed including a new Sigarda.
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Tulul posted:
They are only worse than checklands on exactly turn 2 and strictly better every turn after that.
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Tulul posted:
These are the inverse of the fast lands. There are already recognized "slow lands" though. Leisurely-pace lands?
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The lands are interesting, they're very strong but as far as building Standard manabases and curves they're most of a tapland since you really want the ability to be playing on curve on 2. Huge upside though.  I really like this take on Fiend Hunter. Hard to justify over Skyclave, but easier to splash and maybe some decks want both.   This is a nutty pseudo-lord. Comes down to tribal support but seems super strong. 1 drop Wolves got a whole bunch more important.  4 mana 4/4 flampler, lord effect, and a pretty conditional CA mechanism. The lord effect giving it immediate impact means I can definitely see the rest of her package getting played on efficiency, tribe willing.  The token mechanism. This is a pretty insane price to get two bodies with a body every turn.
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Gramps posted:Exactly my point. Maybe I'm a dick but I've won a lot of games where my opponent started to go off with their combo deck and rather than scoop I make em play it out and they gently caress up. It happens a lot. In Arena last night I had an opponent hit a turn 2 Tibalt and rather than scoop I let him play it out and he whiffed. I've won a lot of games with Trickery when they've scooped before I could decide what to do with my whiff. It's really, really funny hitting a Crypt off a Serpent but they didn't know it because they'd rather take the L in ranked.
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Bugsy posted:
And the new flavor text rules 
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 HAhaha holy gently caress hahahahahaha oh hey investigate is back anyway hahahahahaha read the web fiction hahahahaha
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I have no idea how good it will be but Gruul werewolf is in my future just to t3 Tovolar into t4 Arlinn.
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It's insane how complicated Magic releases are these days. https://twitter.com/jeremynoell/status/1433473332742086663
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!Klams posted:That new retrace cascade card, Throes of Chaos in the historic Tibalts Trickery decks seems like utter bullshit? TOTALLY appreciate though that whenever anyone ever says that about magic, 99.9% of the time they're just bitching about their own personal experience and not really the holistic health of the situation. More than happy to hear "Eh, it whiffs a lot more than you think" or whatever. The last time I felt like this was about Oko, though. It's pretty obnoxious. I was testing it last night and mulling to 2 or 3 cards and still winning consistently. To beat it you need either: A clock faster than 4 Or a control deck with counters. Graveyard hate doesn't really hurt it enough; it doesn't need the non hits that standard or past trickery decks have needed. And the jumpstart has added some great hits in emissary. It's probably not BROKEN, but does sit at like a 55%+ winrate and is very consistent, and unfun to play against because no counterplay exists aside from "be control".
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BIG WINDOW IS AT IT AGAIN!
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
That's not actually gonna be on the card I presume, they just don't want to spoil their short stories.
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You could already win on turn 4 in Historic pretty reliably if you wanted to. I guess the difference here is that 1) discard is irrelevant, 2) it often comes out a turn earlier and 3) you probably need 3 counterspells to actually beat the deck. Could end up being too strong.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
Seems to play pretty well with werewolf pack leader!
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Sinteres posted:It's insane how complicated Magic releases are these days. Oh fuuuuuck this!
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Jiro posted:Oh fuuuuuck this! buy singles
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A big flaming stink posted:Seems to play pretty well with werewolf pack leader! It's a pretty cool way to fulfill their promise of a werewolf legendary capable to leading a tribal commander deck.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:buy singles I do enjoy cracking a few packs with friends soooory.
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They even added a clause to make sure it works with old werewolves.
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