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site posted:that post is 3 years old lol Yeah, I was gonna share it until I saw the date. Francesco Francavilla was talking about it today. I was surprised when I went to like it on Facebook and it was already liked!
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Tom Taylor was also replying to it today, but he at least mentioned that it was an old post. no idea why he was replying to it now in the first place though
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It's a good post, worth emptyquoting until they stop doing what they do. I hadn't previously seen it, and appreciate the echo. I am happy to read evidence supporting my hunch that Bill is ok, and this gives me no reason to stop enjoying his art
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B33rChiller posted:It's a good post, worth emptyquoting until they stop doing what they do. I believe Bill was one of the first to get (understandably) super how at CG's claim Darwyn Cooke would have loved them.
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As the date on that tweet suggests, Bill was indeed one of the first comic book creators who went in hard against CG. I remember it pretty distinctly because everyone else was still being hush hush about the subject at the time unless they were in the line of fire themselves.
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JordanKai posted:As the date on that tweet suggests, Bill was indeed one of the first comic book creators who went in hard against CG. I remember it pretty distinctly because everyone else was still being hush hush about the subject at the time unless they were in the line of fire themselves. Remember when Joe Q himself was like "okay, here, give me a list of your grievances and we'll talk about them" and CG couldn't even do that?
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they don't have any actual grievances, or at least ones that don't make them explicitly the bad guys.
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Anora posted:they don't have any actual grievances, or at least ones that don't make them explicitly the bad guys. Right, EVS/CG just wants to be Fox News for comics - constantly bitching at the “establishment” but offering no solutions beyond “keep paying attention to us.” A perpetual outrage machine.
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like there are tons of actual problems at Marvel and DC, but somehow (and that somehow is bigotry) they only see the problem as "women and PoCs are writing comics now" and the solution is always "more US based white people need to make comics," even though the last like stand out comic from anyone that fits that description was, what, The Dark Knight Returns?
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I'm sure there's been notable comics by US-based white people in an industry dominated by white people in the 35 years since DKR launched. That's a really weird comment.
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Anora posted:like there are tons of actual problems at Marvel and DC, but somehow (and that somehow is bigotry) they only see the problem as "women and PoCs are writing comics now" and the solution is always "more US based white people need to make comics," even though the last like stand out comic from anyone that fits that description was, what, The Dark Knight Returns? I can name a ton of comics I liked that did well commercially written by straight white men since then. I can't think of many comics at all written since then that had the same sort of break through in terms of cultural osmosis. Walking Dead I guess?
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Have you heard of this kinda indy series Invincible Iron Man
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it's poorly worded on my part, but I mean what other US based creators have made a "must read" comic like that, watchmen, or the like. Edit: Walking dead is a good one I forgot, thanks. Anora fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Internet Wizard posted:Have you heard of this kinda indy series Invincible Iron Man I mean, they sorta based Iron-Man 3 on Warren Ellis' run but he clearly said "since Dark Knight Returns" and I wouldn't rate any Iron-Man run that came after that as big of a cultural signifier.
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Skwirl posted:I can name a ton of comics I liked that did well commercially written by straight white men since then. I can't think of many comics at all written since then that had the same sort of break through in terms of cultural osmosis. Walking Dead I guess? Most of classic Vertigo (Sandman, Transmet, Hellblazer). The stuff that gets adapted for TV (Umbrella Academy, Preacher, Jupiter's Legacy, Invincible, Deadly Class, Tick, TMNT, The Boys). I don't know if all those creators are straight white dudes, but most are. I guess how much "osmosis" we are talking about, but we're in a cultural moment where everything is niche. Walking Dead certainly has more cultural relevance than DKR. Uthor fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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To be fair they said "US base" which rules out a lot of the runs mentioned including all of the cited Vertigo stuff. Either way a) I'd say Ultimate Spider-Man maybe, maybe Alias-- say what you will about Bendis he set the tone for a long time, and in ways which directly informed Marvel's big media resurgence b) this is a weird derail so let's just all agree it was kind of a silly post and move on before this becomes the white guy appreciation station which feels somewhat counter to the spirit of this thread
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brubaker's cap run (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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site posted:brubaker's cap run Oh, that actually fits the original post, not just "white boy's greatest hits."
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How Wonderful! posted:b) this is a weird derail so let's just all agree it was kind of a silly post and move on before this becomes the white guy appreciation station which feels somewhat counter to the spirit of this thread
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Uthor posted:Most of classic Vertigo (Sandman, Transmet, Hellblazer). The stuff that gets adapted for TV (Umbrella Academy, Preacher, Jupiter's Legacy, Invincible, Deadly Class, Tick, TMNT, The Boys). Neil Gaiman, Warren Ellis, Jamie Delano, Gerard Way, Garth Ennis, Mark Millar, Robert Kirkman, Rick Remender, Ben Edlund, Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird are indeed all white men, and apart from Delano, Remender, Edlund and Laird they are all definitely straight. (Not to say that those four aren't - I just don't know for sure.) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Anora posted:like there are tons of actual problems at Marvel and DC, but somehow (and that somehow is bigotry) they only see the problem as "women and PoCs are writing comics now" and the solution is always "more US based white people need to make comics," even though the last like stand out comic from anyone that fits that description was, what, The Dark Knight Returns? Telling none of them think to go after CB Cebulski for his cosplay as the honorable Akira Yoshida-sama. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Someone replied to that old anti-CG post I think, which bumps it fresh back into everyone's feeds. Bill Sienkiewicz is a sweetheart. He noticed my work via Facebook, and greeted me by name at SDCC in 2019. I nearly cried just to feel acknowledged and seen like that.
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thread https://twitter.com/Al_Ewing/status/1433473103628222465 https://twitter.com/Al_Ewing/status/1433473286739054592 https://twitter.com/Al_Ewing/status/1433473562887720962 https://twitter.com/Al_Ewing/status/1433473789061382153
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Man, gently caress Joe Bennet. Piece of poo poo.
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Twitter won't let me read threads or comments without logging in anymore. Used to happen occasionally but now it's on everything. What a garbage platform
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Retro Futurist posted:Twitter won't let me read threads or comments without logging in anymore. Used to happen occasionally but now it's on everything. What a garbage platform Kindof makes you want to login, eh? 
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IUG posted:Kindof makes you want to login, eh? no, it just makes me not read that poo poo
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Retro Futurist posted:Twitter won't let me read threads or comments without logging in anymore. Used to happen occasionally but now it's on everything. What a garbage platform This is me, but with Facebook.
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It's also being a pain in the rear end for Instagram. The tattoo threads now have many mysteries for me. Someone posts a tattoo on those threads and it's an instagram link, it's not viewable by me. And I have an account and the app on my phone.
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Yeah, I can see Instagram on my phone, but not pc.
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For Twitter, just refresh the page it won’t let you see. It’ll show you after you do that. Super annoying, I agree.
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Those are both horrifying stories in completely different ways. That Joe Bennett image is disgusting knowing the meaning behind it. And that story about Action Labs is incredibly infuriating.
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Seems like Al put on his big boy pants, at least. Lousy silver lining, I know.
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Action Labs new business model seems to be ransoming IP back to their unpaid creators. https://twitter.com/jjperezwrites/status/1433966611338174465?s=19 They've been sued by at least one of their creators: Zombie Tramp Comic Creator Settles With Action Lab Over Lawsuit
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A reminder that Chapterhouse, now rebranded as Lev Gleason Comic House, remains hot garbage. https://twitter.com/MyNameIsKingdom/status/1434192793073750020?s=19
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It's kind of refreshing to get confirmation that Comicsgate seems to be some sort of strange money laundering scheme and doesn't actually have as many backers as people think: https://twitter.com/chloehandler/status/1434483894842126344?s=20
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Shane Davis is CG? gently caress man, I have his Superman statue.
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E the Shaggy posted:It's kind of refreshing to get confirmation that Comicsgate seems to be some sort of strange money laundering scheme and doesn't actually have as many backers as people think: Yeah, and also the fact CG does not appear to be making as much money off The Grift as they want you to think.
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