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TBH it sounds like one of those things where they had NPH in for an audition and either he read for another part and they went with someone else but still wanted him, or they just had him read for the part and he killed it so they re-worked the character. If any of the schlubby character writing exists in the final product you'd find it in the pilot episode. Pilots are weird like that. Like in Seinfeld you have a diner they never go to again, a waitress that never shows up again filling a vaguely Elaine-like role, no Elaine, Kramer is "Kessler" and also I think he knocks before entering
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MrUnderbridge posted:Naturally, Donald was on the show. This was when he was married to former mistress Marla Maples, and Tiffany had just been born. True class act that he is, he said Tiff had Marla's legs, but he didn't know "if she's got this part yet" as he cupped his hands over his chest. Unsurprisingly, this kind of creepiness didn’t end there. Quote below is from this article from one of Ivanka’s former childhood friends: quote:He would barely acknowledge me except to ask if Ivanka was the prettiest or the most popular girl in our grade. Before I learned that the Trumps have no sense of humor about themselves, I remember answering honestly that she was probably in the top five. “Who’s prettier than Ivanka?” I recall him asking once with genuine confusion, before correctly naming the two girls I’d had in mind. He described one as a young Cindy Crawford, while the other he said had a great figure. The grade in question? 7th.
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christmas boots posted:TBH it sounds like one of those things where they had NPH in for an audition and either he read for another part and they went with someone else but still wanted him, or they just had him read for the part and he killed it so they re-worked the character. If any of the schlubby character writing exists in the final product you'd find it in the pilot episode. Think of your job where what seems like the most obvious basic poo poo somehow doesn’t get communicated and causes a problem and then realize all jobs are the same way
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Neil Patrick Harris could probably play Timothy McVeigh and have everyone love him.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Neil Patrick Harris could probably play Timothy McVeigh and have everyone love him. Especially in today's political climate. Have you seen the people who watch TV? Highest rated Late show on the most watched network is Gutfeld on Fox News.
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i thought Gutfeld 's show got cancel. or was that another """"""comedy"""""/Daily Show ripoff spinoff and he has his own main poo poo. Also if he's so popular how I havent heard of Gutfeld before his canceled show?
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PhazonLink posted:i thought Gutfeld 's show got cancel. There is a helpful informative thread here  I'd never heard of it before that either.
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christmas boots posted:TBH it sounds like one of those things where they had NPH in for an audition and either he read for another part and they went with someone else but still wanted him, or they just had him read for the part and he killed it so they re-worked the character. If any of the schlubby character writing exists in the final product you'd find it in the pilot episode. The showrunners have said his role in Harold & Kumar why they wanted him for the role and how they got the network to sign off on a former child star.
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I’m pretty sure there’s at least one episode where Ted or some other character is mad at Barney because he does something bad like sleep with a family member or friend using manipulative tactics, and their response is “I didn’t think you would do that in a way that would affect me”
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FreudianSlippers posted:Neil Patrick Harris could probably play Timothy McVeigh and have everyone love him.
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bobjr posted:I’m pretty sure there’s at least one episode where Ted or some other character is mad at Barney because he does something bad like sleep with a family member or friend using manipulative tactics, and their response is “I didn’t think you would do that in a way that would affect me” Barney aggressively hits in Ted‘s sister and mother and it is heavily implied that he slept with both.
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Sep 2, 2021 20:39
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I feel like the only person reading this thread that didn't watch HIMYM.
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Sep 2, 2021 20:46
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Everyone watches shows that they just can’t stand
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Spacebump posted:I feel like the only person reading this thread that didn't watch HIMYM. I've never watched it either.
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yeah me neither, it seemed weinery
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MHIMYM was an extremely popular sitcom and with Big Bang theory feels like the last of those types of sitcoms
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Spacebump posted:I feel like the only person reading this thread that didn't watch HIMYM. I watched a couple of seasons based on friend recommendations and Neil Patrick Harris. The gang quickly went down to Always Sunny level but the show wasn't positioned to view them like that, so they kept coming out on top and it was so miserable I dropped it.
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Yea I’m trying to see differences between Dennis and Barney (based on old memories, haven’t seen the show in forever), and that list is coming up short 
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CharlestheHammer posted:MHIMYM was an extremely popular sitcom and with Big Bang theory feels like the last of those types of sitcoms I think TV will still have its niche till netflix and other streaming services re invent the wheel / their own programming depts.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Yea I’m trying to see differences between Dennis and Barney (based on old memories, haven’t seen the show in forever), and that list is coming up short
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Sep 2, 2021 21:21
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Is NPH really that much of a selling point? It’s pretty surprising as someone who’s only ever seen him in Starship Troopers.
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Sep 2, 2021 21:27
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chglcu posted:Is NPH really that much of a selling point? It’s pretty surprising as someone who’s only ever seen him in Starship Troopers. At the time? Not really. Barney made NPH more than anything
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chglcu posted:Is NPH really that much of a selling point? It’s pretty surprising as someone who’s only ever seen him in Starship Troopers. He had some recognition with boomers/Gen X due to Howser, GenX/Millenials with Harold and Kumar, and is a very, very pretty man.
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Speaking of Harold and Kumar, I tried to watch it again and didn't make it fifteen minutes Not because it was offensive or anything, just not funny
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chglcu posted:Is NPH really that much of a selling point? It’s pretty surprising as someone who’s only ever seen him in Starship Troopers. Depends on your interests. I very much grew up on Doogie Howser so, to me, he was kind of my childhood idol. But, if you were a theater buff, he was a Very Big Deal even before HIMYM. And, Harold and Kumar was a launching point for several careers. It's like how right now, you could convince me to watch Shohreh Aghdashloo (The Expanse) read the phone book. She's no mega-star by any means, but if I really enjoy an example of someone's work, I'll go out of my way to see what else they do.
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It should be said How debuted a little over a year after Harold and Kumar so that was more than likely not a huge factor. Also according to Wikipedia Barney was supposed to be a John Belushi type character. Until PH nailed the audition.
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Toshimo posted:Depends on your interests. I very much grew up on Doogie Howser so, to me, he was kind of my childhood idol. This is how I find a lot of new stuff to watch. I'll find an actor I like and give anything they were in a try. You find all sorts of stuff that way.
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Toshimo posted:Depends on your interests. I very much grew up on Doogie Howser so, to me, he was kind of my childhood idol. Ah, I guess that explains how I missed him. I was just a bit to young for Doogie Howser and can’t stand theater or stoner comedy.
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I'm not a huge stoner comedy guy, but the first H&K is loving amazing. It's way smarter than you'd think, and there's so many clever subversions of tropes. Observe the twist on this standard "character has fantasy" scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-t-addfa24&hd=1
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rydiafan posted:I'm not a huge stoner comedy guy, but the first H&K is loving amazing. It's way smarter than you'd think, and there's so many clever subversions of tropes. I also enjoy the first H&K. Scenes with the dumb extreme guys were great.
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The best part of that film was Christopher Meloni.
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chris meloni is the best part of a lot of things, dude's really underrated
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flatluigi posted:chris meloni is the best part of a lot of things, dude's really underrated
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HopperUK posted:This is how I find a lot of new stuff to watch. I'll find an actor I like and give anything they were in a try. You find all sorts of stuff that way.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Yea I’m trying to see differences between Dennis and Barney (based on old memories, haven’t seen the show in forever), and that list is coming up short Whenever something reminds us that Dennis is a hosed up man who had a hosed up life and is also a hosed up rapist we're supposed to go ewwww but that's still absolutely no excuse for being a hosed up rapist while whenever something reminds us that Barney is a hosed up man who had a relatively good life that somehow led him to being a hosed up rapist we're supposed to go awwww, he's just a little sweetheart, let the man have everything he wants in life.
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HIMYM was a tremendously bad show from basically every aspect, like I think we’re losing in all the “the main characters are monstrous garbage” chat the fact that the last two seasons (IIRC) covered a period of time of like three loving days
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bobjr posted:I’m pretty sure there’s at least one episode where Ted or some other character is mad at Barney because he does something bad like sleep with a family member or friend using manipulative tactics, and their response is “I didn’t think you would do that in a way that would affect me” There's a brief falling out between Ted and Barney when Barney sleeps with Robin and Ted thinks he was just using her for a quick lay as he does every other woman (I don't know if he outright says what you quoted, but the sentiment is there).
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Rockman Reserve posted:HIMYM was a tremendously bad show from basically every aspect, like I think we’re losing in all the “the main characters are monstrous garbage” chat the fact that the last two seasons (IIRC) covered a period of time of like three loving days Just the last season, but it was a split season. The end of Season 8 was Ted and The Mother getting on a train to go to Barney and Robin's wedding. Late HIMYM did some cool stuff, but it was basically a test to see if you can gently caress over 9 seasons of decent goodwill in one two-part finale, and much like Avatar and Game of Thrones, has basically vanished from the zeitgeist of the area it once dominated.
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Yeah the big criticism of the final season of HIMYM besides the fact that it sucked balls and contradicted itself within itself (I mean remember how Ted completely and unequivocally let go of Robin and allowed himself to move on like three times in one season) was also that it dedicates 20 odd episodes to the group's one weekend and 15 minutes to the rest of their lives and killed the mother and had Ted get back with Robin like it was no thing.
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