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ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008


No. Peat.

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

ethanol posted:

its not a void full of water its a elastic mix of peaty mud soils, root, and a lot of water, very inconsistently mixed. you dont break through and enter some sort of water chamber below a crust. it's basically really hard to sink more than a leg in in that stuff, even as watery as it looks, even if you completely removed the top surface. otherwise that top surface would never last
There's a variety of matted wetland conformations. Someone post the video of the Russian guys diving into a hole and swimming out of a pond 15 feet away; that one is definitely not a solid sponge.

The local variety in Louisiana you usually punch through into a marsh you can probably normally tread water in except your feet are tangled in a mat of poo poo now. To be fair these usually don't get as thick as to let you dance on them, you usually step in and shloop, hope you don't have a pack on.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Serephina posted:

Lotta fuckin' armchair theory here, I have never heard of any other ranger/workers referring to swamp matts as anything other than inconvenient (or funny). Helicopters, chainsaws, poison, all sorts of health&safety stuff. Not the floating vegetation.

There is probably some confusion with what I know as a hanging bog - but I believe they're known as floating or quaking bogs in English? Those have a floating layer of sphagnum moss and maybe some heather over a layer of clear water, and it is very possible to drop through the floating layer. It's not exactly common, but people do sporadically drown in those.

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD
:dukedog:

follow that camel!! posted:

There’s a lot of safety looking stuff. But this doesn’t seem that safe.

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7003165511462784261

Edit: I thought TikTok things embedded but I guess I’m not that smart. Window installation in a high rise goes wrong, so you know where the click takes you.

they do but it's gotta be the actual full url, not the shortened one they give you that starts with vm

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.


General Bullshit > OSHA IV: At my second bike shop, I had to fully renipple a retired couple

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



zedprime posted:

There's a variety of matted wetland conformations. Someone post the video of the Russian guys diving into a hole and swimming out of a pond 15 feet away; that one is definitely not a solid sponge.

The local variety in Louisiana you usually punch through into a marsh you can probably normally tread water in except your feet are tangled in a mat of poo poo now. To be fair these usually don't get as thick as to let you dance on them, you usually step in and shloop, hope you don't have a pack on.

if it's a moss surface directly next to a body of water that's a bit different from what I was thinking of but yeah you're right

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
The lot across from me was excavated and is getting a foundation poured. They might have dug a little too greedily and too deep.



I don't think that 2x4 is going to work for long, especially considering it's raining now and there's nothing under it but mud.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Cyrano4747 posted:

General Bullshit > OSHA IV: At my second bike shop, I had to fully renipple a retired couple

gently caress, so many tonight.

General Bullshit > OSHA IV: They might have dug a little too greedily and too deep

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


i am a little concerned for the heat-treatment of the lathe's ways.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Sagebrush posted:

i am a little concerned for the heat-treatment of the lathe's ways.

I suppose maybe a one time thing isn't that bad for you, but I'd be more concerned for whoever eats that chicken as most machine shops I've been to have smelled of cutting oil, and often times there almost seems to be a haze of it in the air.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

AmbassadorofSodomy posted:

I suppose maybe a one time thing isn't that bad for you, but I'd be more concerned for whoever eats that chicken as most machine shops I've been to have smelled of cutting oil, and often times there almost seems to be a haze of it in the air.

Weird, my doctor told me I should consider cutting oil in my diet.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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piL posted:

Weird, my doctor told me I should consider cutting oil in my diet.

Bravo.

Fat Loser
May 27, 2004


This machine shop managed to figure out how to satiate the lathe's hunger for flesh and their own lunch at the same time.

Kudos to them.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
They need to figure out a way to hook up a knife to the carriage, and slide it along, cutting them shits up in to pieces.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

AmbassadorofSodomy posted:

They need to figure out a way to hook up a knife to the carriage, and slide it along, cutting them shits up in to pieces.

That would probably work better with a more homogenous and dimensionally stable laminated meat, döner/gyros/al pastor style?

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

AmbassadorofSodomy posted:

They need to figure out a way to hook up a knife to the carriage, and slide it along, cutting them shits up in to pieces.

A 8 tpi feed with a big sharp knife on the toolpost should spiral slice those fuckers nicely.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

LD50 of WD40

Old Balls McGee
Nov 2, 2008
Muskeg

An awful lot of heavy equipment has been lost in northern Canada to that stuff. Talk to any old Lineman from Manitoba Hydro and they'll have tales of losing a Flextrack / Nodwell / whatever they want to call it.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Scholtz posted:

LD50 of WD40

LOLD420

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!

D34THROW posted:

Because it was sold as 304SS - which is nonmagnetic - and our customer base, as I said, is old farts with nothing better to do than take a magnet out and spot check the screws in their pool cage. This isn't even mentioning yet the one eagle-eyed customer that actually checked the markings on the screw heads and realized that what they got is a few grades down from what was actually sold to them.

In theory, in a coastal environment, which is anywhere up to and including ten miles inland (I think), the better the grade, the more corrosion-resistant it is. That's particularly important because stainless and aluminum tend not to get along if you don't get things just so. Galvanic corrosion isn't pretty, when a customer sends you a picture of their sliding glass door that they tried to shore up with stainless fasteners, and there's a hole the size of a quarter where the screw used to be because of the electrical potential between the shittier stainless grades and aluminum, and using non-coated screws.
:goonsay:

In Florida, watch an insurance company deny a hurricane damage claim if the fasteners were not marine grade stainless steel. If the code calls for it, and it doesn't have it, you can get screwed pretty fast in inspection or insurance coverage.

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008



after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

Old Balls McGee posted:

Muskeg

An awful lot of heavy equipment has been lost in northern Canada to that stuff. Talk to any old Lineman from Manitoba Hydro and they'll have tales of losing a Flextrack / Nodwell / whatever they want to call it.

I was hoping someone would post this. It's a muskeg. Those things will absolutely swallow you whole

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Toupee Groupie posted:

you can get screwed pretty fast

Technically, unscrewed.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

404SS is great if you love changing tools on your lathe/mill. We were getting 60-75x 2.25” diameter parts out of our cutoff tool inserts. Those are usually good for hundreds of parts.

E: The roughing outside turning tool also felt the pain. We would run 5x parts and check tools. If there was more smoke than normal when we opened the lathe door, that meant it was time to swap _that_ insert.

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Sep 3, 2021

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7003261711704689926

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


I'm getting a bit nervous because I live on a seacoast; it's a cold seacoast rather than Florida, but I can see the ocean right outside my windows. Does that mean that anything I put outside/exposed to the outside air should be secured with stainless steel screws/nails? Where can I research this?

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard

D34THROW posted:

Believe it or not, working in the window and door industry has taught me some about metallurgy. Specifically because for the longest time one of our salesmen sold contracts with "304SS marine-grade stainless" fasteners. Then, even as we were working these jobs, management switched to 410SS because it was cheaper. Was real fun when I got to explain to a room full of my bosses exactly why customers were complaining when they checked the fasteners with magnets and were suddenly demanding we come out and change out hundreds of fasteners.* :eng101:

* It's snowbirds in Florida with nothing better to do.

Ok right you guys weren't expecting people to check, but if they got sold a product promising "304SS marine-grade stainless" but got delivered a different, cheaper product, that's a bunch of bullshit. People who live near the ocean are dead serious about corrosion resistance. That higher grade of fastener might have been why they chose your product over a competitor's.

I hope you explained to your bosses why bait-and-switching people who paid a premium for a specific alloy put you guys solidly in the wrong. You're lucky if you didn't get class-actioned.

emptyspace
Oct 21, 2008

Toupee Groupie posted:

In Florida, watch an insurance company deny a hurricane damage claim if the fasteners were not marine grade stainless steel. If the code calls for it, and it doesn't have it, you can get screwed pretty fast in inspection or insurance coverage.

Giving the wrong fastener can be a big deal, not just in Florida. There was a huge scam with fraudulent fasteners several years ago. Grade 5 marked grade 8, and whatnot. My gf and I went to the atomic testing museum in Vegas, and talked to a guy that used to work at the test sites. Nice old man. He said the only mishap they had was mismarked bolts that dropped the device unexpectedly. Funnily enough, a competitor of my company was arrested for selling fake bolts several years later.

Fat Loser
May 27, 2004

Uncle Enzo posted:

Ok right you guys weren't expecting people to check, but if they got sold a product promising "304SS marine-grade stainless" but got delivered a different, cheaper product, that's a bunch of bullshit. People who live near the ocean are dead serious about corrosion resistance. That higher grade of fastener might have been why they chose your product over a competitor's.

I hope you explained to your bosses why bait-and-switching people who paid a premium for a specific alloy put you guys solidly in the wrong. You're lucky if you didn't get class-actioned.

This kind of thing also brings up the best, difficult to answer, question.

"What else did they lie about?"

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

The foundation is on bedrock. Some of that bedrock may have detached from the other bedrock over the last 100-200m years, but that sand modular bedrock is stable.

E: The front part of the bedrock fell off.

Softface
Feb 16, 2011

Some things can't be unseen
https://twitter.com/heyRickyB/status/1433554233530458112?s=20

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Antioch posted:

The lot across from me was excavated and is getting a foundation poured. They might have dug a little too greedily and too deep.



I don't think that 2x4 is going to work for long, especially considering it's raining now and there's nothing under it but mud.

I mean, you have to dig down to the base of the structure, which is typically 6'-7', you also need to be able to fit equipment+people into the trench, so, typically you dig 3.5-4.5' out from the wall. Also, they should have just ripped that sidewalk out, but the customer probably complained about having to pay for that AND the foundation pour/repair and asked if they could try to save it.

hint: It probably won't work (as you surmised) even if the thing survives, because of settlement post fill, you typically have to fill the hole, and if you don't want to pay for a tamper, which I wouldn't, you just water the area for a few weeks, then throw down more dirt, which is a lot tougher with existing concrete, generally you'd then pour new concrete, which will probably happen here anyway, with the added bonus that they will have to deal with paying whomever to haul the old poo poo out instead of having it done now.

Source, I did foundation repair for a living and have probably piered and jacked 100+ houses.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Sep 3, 2021

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J8mkHUsiXY

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

MF_James posted:

I mean, you have to dig down to the base of the structure, which is typically 6'-7', you also need to be able to fit equipment+people into the trench, so, typically you dig 3.5-4.5' out from the wall. Also, they should have just ripped that sidewalk out, but the customer probably complained about having to pay for that AND the foundation pour/repair and asked if they could try to save it.

hint: It probably won't work (as you surmised) even if the thing survives, because of settlement post fill, you typically have to fill the hole, and if you don't want to pay for a tamper, which I wouldn't, you just water the area for a few weeks, then throw down more dirt, which is a lot tougher with existing concrete, generally you'd then pour new concrete, which will probably happen here anyway, with the added bonus that they will have to deal with paying whomever to haul the old poo poo out instead of having it done now.

Source, I did foundation repair for a living and have probably piered and jacked 100+ houses.

This is actually really interesting, thank you! I worked at a construction company, but in IT. They didn't let me on site, rightfully so.

The owner of the blue house came home and lost his poo poo so tomorrow should be interesting.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Antioch posted:

This is actually really interesting, thank you! I worked at a construction company, but in IT. They didn't let me on site, rightfully so.

The owner of the blue house came home and lost his poo poo so tomorrow should be interesting.

It's a really crazy process, we generally didn't pour concrete (slabs/whatever), we'd repair existing foundations, so dig down below the footer, then attach brackets every 6ish feet around the affected area of the house, so basically the part that settled plus one bracket on the good side at each end (I've also done a WHOLE house which was like a $200000ish project).

Then we'd drive pipe down to the point of refusal, essentially when we'd hit very solid earth, this would pop a ring on the end of the pipe, which you definitely knew happened because it sounded like a gunshot, push the pipe (heh) a bit further, then pour a limestone/concrete mix down the pipe and lock the brackets down to the house. If the house needed lifting, we'd lift prior to filling the pipes, using 10 ton bottle jacks on each pipe. That's the short of it, there was so much OSHA poo poo, did I mention it was our family business before my brother and I sold it? Yeah...

That job gave me a lot of respect for construction workers and a very healthy fear of saws because every one I used was diamond bladed and dangerous as gently caress for one reason or another (mostly they kicked like mules and could cut off an errant limb/appendage in a split second), one of them though, lol, it was a loving chainsaw with a chain that could cut concrete, that thing was some scary poo poo.

I probably should have worn ear protection more because now my hearing is poo poo from cutting miles of concrete.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Beaten. <:mad:>

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.




Oh gently caress me that's gross.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


What a great week! First Pfizer jab on wednesday, now as of friday I am Forklift Certified!

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

Kenning posted:

Oh gently caress me that's gross.

you'll notice his immediate reaction to hitting the water is swimming out as fast as humanly possible

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

https://twitter.com/vomit_dragon/status/1433628970835087369?s=21

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axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

The only fasteners even remotely useful for anything are self-sealing stembolts. If you want to buy some, email my pal Nog ensignearz@oomox.com.

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