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RIP Seaboard https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/2/22653749/music-startup-roli-administration-reform-luminary-lumi-keys-app
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How was a Seaboard to play? I think they look cool but also like something that would be in an ad next to impossibly fitted hooded anime jackets or a glow in the dark ant farm.
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i have no idea what the hell to do with synths but i want an EML101 so loving bad dude i hope someone will make a clone of it or a really good vst of it one day but at the same time, no ones cared to after like 40 years so
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Ok Comboomer posted:RIP Seaboard i was never a fan of roli stuff but man the talk about “hypergrowth” is truly grim
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Startyde posted:The firmware update fixes it usually, sometimes they need more debounce, the fix isn’t hard. Whats debounce? I feel a little more reassured after your post. Im not trying to push it with huge amounts of voices, modulation, fx, etc, I just bought it because it seemed like a very flexible and affordable polysynth. My planned workflow will be to make baselines and mono stuff with it to resample into the digitakt, and then pads and leads to record in stereo when I record my jams onto ableton.
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Sep 2, 2021 18:09
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debounce is like when you have some kind of automation set up based on incoming signal, if you receive a bunch of spam on that signal you don't necessarily want to act on every single one, so you batch them up and wait a sec before acting on it so like on a web search form where it auto populates the results as you type, you don't want to make a search request to the server every keystroke, because what if the user is a really fast typer, so you give it a sec before searching just one time. then after a second or 500ms or whatever its cool to do another search
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Sep 2, 2021 18:42
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Rolo posted:How was a Seaboard to play? I think they look cool but also like something that would be in an ad next to impossibly fitted hooded anime jackets or a glow in the dark ant farm. It felt weird when I tried it in store. Weird enough that I basically stopped considering it and went looking at linnstruments instead. Basically, yeah, it looks like a piano, but it didn't feel like one so there wasn't as much skill transfer as I'd expect (not that I'm great at piano, either, though). This https://www.expressivee.com/2-osmose seems like a better idea, but it isn't out yet and has been delayed a lot due to covid.
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watho posted:i was never a fan of roli stuff but man the talk about “hypergrowth” is truly grim That's kinda techstartup.txt though. (The tech startup world is pretty grim.) Back on topic though, given that Roli was the poster child for MPE, what's actually left out there in terms of MPE devices? The Linnstrument and that not-yet-released Osmose thing?
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petit choux posted:All right, I went ahead and decided to live in a barrel and sell sexual favors for October and buy a Korg NTS-1. So come on down by the barrel and check out my new synthesizer with me! Lol -- it's a fun little device, though. One thing: if you want to send MIDI to it, you probably want the adaptor that lets you use a standard MIDI cable (unless your drum brain does MIDI-over-3.5mm). For drum kits, I haven't tried any of these, but this is what I've seen: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=542084 -- free https://www.soundmangling.com/2020/05/14/beats-user-oscillator/ - $19 https://www.sinevibes.com/korggroove/ -- $59 + tax (or buy their whole collection for $129?) So far I've only been using free plugins, and been enjoying those. HammondEggs has some nice reverbs, as well as a supersaw oscillator, and a bunch of other things (distortion, looper, etc): http://hammondeggsmusic.ca/logueplugins.html He's also released a tutorial project if you want to go down the DSP programming rabbit hole: https://github.com/hammondeggs/logue_RandomLFOTutorial
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The Linnstrument is really something, I don’t think too many things in the music instrument/device business are as well realized as it was. Firmware’s even open. Roli felt like a trick, didn’t care for the material, that it wasn’t standalone, or that it had raised keys. Nubs on or very slight raised lines between (think Easel) maybe would’ve been better. That they’re scrambling for some Harmonix edutainment kind of stuff is lol  “hypergrowth” in music merchandise, only if you Uli. titty_baby_ posted:Whats debounce? I feel a little more reassured after your post. Im not trying to push it with huge amounts of voices, modulation, fx, etc, I just bought it because it seemed like a very flexible and affordable polysynth. My planned workflow will be to make baselines and mono stuff with it to resample into the digitakt, and then pads and leads to record in stereo when I record my jams onto ableton. Debounce caps across the encoder legs https://www.flickr.com/photos/37590856@N03/5388279754 It is indeed a very flexible and affordable polysynth. It is also a sampler buffet, enjoy the feeding frenzy. 
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A MIRACLE posted:debounce is like when you have some kind of automation set up based on incoming signal, if you receive a bunch of spam on that signal you don't necessarily want to act on every single one, so you batch them up and wait a sec before acting on it so named because the contacts in mechanical switches actually literally bounce
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Startyde posted:The Linnstrument is really something, I don’t think too many things in the music instrument/device business are as well realized as it was. Firmware’s even open. I was very disinterested in the Roli after having used it. It didn't seem particularly interesting, new, or expressive. The Linnstrument, on the other hand, actually made me stick around the booth and gently caress around with it for a while when I played with one. It's so entirely different a thing from the Roli boards. I mean, it also helped that Roger Linn himself was talking to me about it, but the thing seems like something genuinely trying something different than yet another piano-style controller.
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As usual, I went on basecks Instagram and got mad gas, this little thing looks like a cool way to generate rhythms on a modular: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTVN30OAXkJ/?utm_medium=copy_link https://www.moffenzeefmodular.com/store/pocket-clock-it I'm on holiday this weekend but depending on how much I spend on food and booze I might pick one up. How are the keys in the Yamaha reface cs? It solves a couple of problems for me (don't have a poly or a midi keyboard atm), I like the sound and the price is right.
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Nice minikeys but no velocity on the CS. The other refaces do tho. Check out the DX too.
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What voltage is a synth supposed to output through an expression pedal jack? I'm seeing 15 volts on this dx7's volume and expression pedal jacks, and 5 volts on the sustain and portamento pedal jacks. I definitely killed this boss ev-30 I was trying to use with it, it's got the burnt electronics smell. Edit: pedal still shows the whole range when I use it with my midi controller, think it's ok brand engager fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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brand engager posted:What voltage is a synth supposed to output through an expression pedal jack? I'm seeing 15 volts on this dx7's volume and expression pedal jacks, and 5 volts on the sustain and portamento pedal jacks. I definitely killed this boss ev-30 I was trying to use with it, it's got the burnt electronics smell. I always used a cheapo M-Audio expression pedal with my DX7 and never had any problems, no idea what the voltage is supposed to be but they're a totally passive circuit so it should be fine. 5V does sound more standard than 15, and it's weird that the portamento jack is different from the volume and expression jacks since they are all continuous value inputs (vs an on/off switch for sustain). The dedicated portamento expression input is great though, I don't know of any other synths that have one but you can do "inverted" portamento with an expression pedal and change it on the fly while you're playing to get some real funky sounds. Edit: also if I remember right, the sustain pedal on the DX7 is opposite polarity from most modern synths- most will have a polarity switch underneath the pedal. a loathsome bird fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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I wish I had checked the resistances before using it, but it seems like theres very little resistance on the wiper arm of the pot of the pedal now. I checked what voltages are coming out of the pedal jacks of my keylab2 and they're all 3.2v. 15v seems really weird Edit: I mean the current-limiting resistance doesn't seem to be there, like this 1k resistor in this example, maybe it failed into a short  https://www.strymon.net/strymon-tech-corner-1-anatomy-of-an-expression-pedal/ brand engager fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Anyone here that enjoys the PO-33 workflow move up to an OP-Z at some point? I've been watching some videos on it and it looks like its just a big fun pocket operator.
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It does look cool. I think I am going to get the OP-1 at some point tho
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I'm thinking more and more that a 1 or Z is on the horizon. I enjoy learning synthesis with my Korg stuff but there is just something happening when I pour a glass of gin, grab my KO or Arcade with some studio headphones and just throw down some grooves. It puts me in a zone.
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It’s funny you’re all talking about the OP-1/Z now, since I’m just getting back into synthesis after a long layoff, and just put down the money for an OP-1 since I’ve lusted after it for ages (along with 3 of the Pocket Operators; Rhythm, Office and Robot iirc). Between that, and me shopping around for a new laptop for music production, it’s gonna be a rough month for my wallet, but hey, birthday’s coming up, I can splurge a little 
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 I got a promotion this week that kicks in Monday. They usually happen every 3 or so years and involve a month of training in another state. I like to get myself a present as a congrats and to have something other than manuals to play with in the hotel. Last time it was a Switch and some games, this time it’s probably gonna be a Z/1. Just deciding which kind of workflow I’m going to enjoy more coming from PO’s, Volcas and a Minilogue. Edit: got an OP-1. That’s gonna be it, no more gear for awhile. Rolo fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Rolo posted:That’s gonna be it, no more gear for awhile. in this thread that sentiment should always require a toxx clause
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Sep 3, 2021 23:19
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wavestate is getting user uploaded samples I want the se to come out already
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Sep 3, 2021 23:38
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I clipped the leads to both wiper arms and soldered a 1k resistor to each. One of the ports works with the dx7 now, the other one still seems too messed up    
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Anyone in here grab an EssenceFM? How's the software/UI been? I like the layers approach, it's on sale and I Don't Need It.
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Not exactly synth related, but I just found this site yesterday - it uses AI to separate vocals from instrumentals. It can apparently also separate drums and pianos. I just tried it on a little pop song from an Anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9i4bOoc-dk) - it did an OK job. There's a bit of aliasing in places, and a little bit of bleed/dropout. But, if there's something you really want to try and mess around with, the first 10 minutes of processing are free, and you get a preview to find out if you want to spend your free minutes/if its usable. https://www.lalal.ai/
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toadee posted:Not exactly synth related, but I just found this site yesterday - it uses AI to separate vocals from instrumentals. It can apparently also separate drums and pianos. I just tried it on a little pop song from an Anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9i4bOoc-dk) - it did an OK job. There's a bit of aliasing in places, and a little bit of bleed/dropout. But, if there's something you really want to try and mess around with, the first 10 minutes of processing are free, and you get a preview to find out if you want to spend your free minutes/if its usable. This is awesome and totally synth related cuz now i can steal much better samples 
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Rutibex posted:This is awesome and totally synth related cuz now i can steal much better samples If I knew how easy it would be to sample stuff I would have started doing it and collecting old weird vinyl years ago.
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toadee posted:Not exactly synth related, but I just found this site yesterday - it uses AI to separate vocals from instrumentals. It can apparently also separate drums and pianos. I just tried it on a little pop song from an Anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9i4bOoc-dk) - it did an OK job. There's a bit of aliasing in places, and a little bit of bleed/dropout. But, if there's something you really want to try and mess around with, the first 10 minutes of processing are free, and you get a preview to find out if you want to spend your free minutes/if its usable. I was playing around with this and it works really well. It separated the vocals from Magic Man pretty much flawlessly for me, that's tough material for any algorithm. It does however reveal the corners cut by the mp3 compression, so the better your source material the less it will mangle it in the noisier parts.
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Figured out why the dx7 roasted that exp pedal, they don't use the normal pinout. Normal: Sleeve - ground Ring - whatever reference voltage Tip - return path from wiper, current limited DX7: Sleeve - ground Ring - return path from wiper, limited to 1.5mA Tip - 15 volts, limited at 400 - 500 mA Using something with the normal pinout will run about 6 watts through the potentiometer when the pedal is in the heel position.
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Rolo posted:How was a Seaboard to play? I think they look cool but also like something that would be in an ad next to impossibly fitted hooded anime jackets or a glow in the dark ant farm. I love mine. Said to see Roli eat poo poo but I'm honestly not surprised. They seemed determined to expand as quickly as possible into areas that were not their core business, and I think their core business suffered for it.
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Trig Discipline posted:I love mine. Said to see Roli eat poo poo but I'm honestly not surprised. They seemed determined to expand as quickly as possible into areas that were not their core business, and I think their core business suffered for it. Roli fell into the trap of letting Apple only market their BLOCKS products alongside iOS devices instead of Macs in their stores, unaware that that would make a lot of prospective buyers take said products less seriously and not more seriously
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Indeed. Regarding the MPE question above though, I think Roli's biggest legacy will probably be that they did push pretty hard for the standardization of MPE, and it's much more ubiquitous now than it used to be. I've now got something like a dozen MPE-enabled softsynths I can use with my Seaboard, and those should be usable with whatever comes after the Seaboard as well. The Linnstrument looks cool as hell and I might try one of those one day, but I find the keyboardishness of the Seaboard to be a strength, rather than a weakness. You can slot it in to your setup as a regular (albeit weird feeling) midi controller when need be, and the expressive bits of it are intuitive enough that anyone who knows how to play keyboards sorta gets it immediately.
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Roli's other big legacy is Juce, and I hope that gets open-sourced or something. It feels like half of new audio apps are using it under the hood.
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snorch posted:Roli's other big legacy is Juce, and I hope that gets open-sourced or something. It feels like half of new audio apps are using it under the hood. roli implodes and takes them all with it
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Picked up Korg Gadget for the Switch yesterday on a whim, it's entertaining as hell. It's a little bit ableton, a little bit tracker. I did the tutorial and wound up with an 80s/hip hop/disco version of the ABC song and giggled like a lunatic listening to it.
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a mysterious cloak posted:Picked up Korg Gadget for the Switch yesterday on a whim, it's entertaining as hell. It's a little bit ableton, a little bit tracker. I did the tutorial and wound up with an 80s/hip hop/disco version of the ABC song and giggled like a lunatic listening to it. you should’ve got it for your phone/tablet the Switch version is suuuuper cut back and limited compared to iOS/Android
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Ok Comboomer posted:you should’ve got it for your phone/tablet Fairly sure it's iOS only, not Android. Android music software seems to kinda suck still. I was looking for a MIDI sequencer to use my phone to drive the NTS-1, and there doesn't seem to be much. FLStudio for Android doesn't do MIDI out, and it's "low priority" for them as a feature. The best thing I found was some janky free thing that flashes fullscreen ads for online gambling every few minutes.
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