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Having bought the art book, I can now personally confirm that yes, Finn is indeed canonically 20 years old.
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 FinnAlso I guess we’re fighting a bathtub next, because Angela actually found a good solution to the “Abnormalities” can’t die problem but apparently we need to beat it up to get more librarians? is it a bad sign that the first Abnormality we’re dealing with, on Keter to boot, is the representation of Carmen’s suicide in a bathtub?
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Sep 3, 2021 14:04
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Theantero posted:Having bought the art book, I can now personally confirm that yes, Finn is indeed canonically 20 years old. Pretty sure the fandom will proceed to ignore this fact.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:05
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PinkDawn posted:Pretty sure the fandom will proceed to ignore this fact. Theantero posted:I don't have it at hand, but I think the official art book actually lists Finn as like, in his early twenties or something. I am aware  the Orb of Zot posted:Also I guess we’re fighting a bathtub next, because Angela actually found a good solution to the “Abnormalities” can’t die problem but apparently we need to beat it up to get more librarians? The way she describes the system in the scene feels less like 'imprisonment' and more like 'life support', imo.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:09
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the Orb of Zot posted:is it a bad sign that the first Abnormality we’re dealing with, on Keter to boot, is the representation of Carmen’s suicide in a bathtub? It does seem appropriate considering that it represents the beggining of Lobo Corp even before it was officially recognized as such and the creation of Angela.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:13
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Theantero posted:Having bought the art book, I can now personally confirm that yes, Finn is indeed canonically 20 years old. More or less, yes. I feel the need to note that due to the Korean way of determining age Finn is basically either 18 or 19 years old to westerners, but regardless of how you slice it he's no kid.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:15
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TeeQueue posted:More or less, yes. I feel the need to note that due to the Korean way of determining age Finn is basically either 18 or 19 years old to westerners, but regardless of how you slice it he's no kid.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:50
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He could be part of some long running experiment to see just how long can somebody be so idealistic in the setting.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:52
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Theantero posted:The way she describes the system in the scene feels less like 'imprisonment' and more like 'life support', imo. Now I’m imagining Big Bird on a ventilator with Judgment Bird and Punishing Bird in total disarray over the matter unable to comprehend the matter or what they’ll do after he passes on. Or they just merge into the Apocalypse Bird and the entire hospital is ruined in short order. One of the two.
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Sep 3, 2021 15:27
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Hunt11 posted:He could be part of some long running experiment to see just how long can somebody be so idealistic in the setting. Turns out it's "until your very early death." As Roland said, the City (and to a greater extent, this setting) is no place for a kid like him.
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Sep 3, 2021 15:27
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the Orb of Zot posted:Now I’m imagining Big Bird on a ventilator with Judgment Bird and Punishing Bird in total disarray over the matter unable to comprehend the matter or what they’ll do after he passes on. Or they just merge into the Apocalypse Bird and the entire hospital is ruined in short order. One of the two. I hate this and I hate you for inspiring me to spend a few minutes in MS Paint. 
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Sep 3, 2021 16:10
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FINN IS DEAD I made something for the occasion, may he rest in peace. The lesser evil is still a bit evil. MetaMeme fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Sep 3, 2021 16:11
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MetaMeme posted:FINN  Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers.
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EDIT: post removed for failing to meet its own poster's standards
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Sep 3, 2021 17:15
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The important thing is that he tried, and that maybe his cards are good.
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Sep 3, 2021 17:20
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Solitair posted:Somehow, on my first playthrough, I was able to beat the next fight in the story without doing the abnormality battle first. I don't even remember it being that hard, but it's been a while. Then I restarted my save for no reason and did it the other way, figuring I should beat abnormalities as soon as they're available. It's more fun for the LP, too. Same, and I think I even did the next couple fights too, although it took a lot of tries. This was before the tutorial, so I didn't realize that you needed to click on the red exclamation mark itself. MiiNiPaa posted:Game balance regards defensive dice and defencive power-ups as less valuable, than offencive, since you are not bringing enemies closer to death with them. If we take only roll values and status bonuses, it is a solid 3-cost. Even if we do apply value reduction to the defensive dice value it still well above 2-cost. A good defensive page, if you want to build a tank. The thing with Ruina though, is that even purely defensive dice can still stagger someone, which makes them extremely easy to finish off. Although uh, it's extremely easy to go through like two thirds of the game without knowing how to deflect properly.
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Wait so our goal here is to raise the "Hazard Level" of the library and be seen as a threat to the city? We want to piss off the Powers That Be? Uh, Angela? Remember Binah? An Arbiter? And what they can do? You know there's more of those around right? And one will show up eventually if you keep this up? I hope for your sake you have a plan there beyond sending Roland to get hyper-murdered by an Arbiter using Singularities because if not I'll have to strongly doubt that "bestest AI" claim.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Wait so our goal here is to raise the "Hazard Level" of the library and be seen as a threat to the city? We want to piss off the Powers That Be? The plan amounts to "slowly get noticed by more and more powerful opponents, turn them into books that can be burned to make our library stronger, and keep this up until either the perfect book is found or there are no more guests to invite". Also while her advice on Abnormality fight benefits is vague she does state (with some interpretative effort) that 1. we get new librarians/fighters out of them and 2. the Abnormalities will help us after we beat them somehow which absolutely will mean that it's not implausible to work our way up to fighting Arbiters and whatnot.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Wait so our goal here is to raise the "Hazard Level" of the library and be seen as a threat to the city? We want to piss off the Powers That Be? I don't think Angela wants to piss off the Head, but rather recognizes that her goal will piss off the Head. Also, the fact that there are "Hazard Levels", plural rather than a binary "is or isn't a threat", generally suggests the City's response will be measured accordingly. Ideally Roland will be capable of handling an Arbiter by the time one of those show up.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:06
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The Head will be a pretty great novel in General Works I bet
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Sep 3, 2021 18:12
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Theantero posted:The way she describes the system in the scene feels less like 'imprisonment' and more like 'life support', imo. 
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NullBlack posted:I don't think Angela wants to piss off the Head, but rather recognizes that her goal will piss off the Head. Also, the fact that there are "Hazard Levels", plural rather than a binary "is or isn't a threat", generally suggests the City's response will be measured accordingly. Ideally Roland will be capable of handling an Arbiter by the time one of those show up. Angela's entire existence is something that pisses off the Head, she's not supposed to exist from their perspective, and that was when she was trapped doing A's dirty work. It's not really a question of if the Head notices, but when, and sitting around doing nothing doesn't fix that. Whatever you can do will probably make them notice you faster, but that can be planned around. So presumably whatever Angela's got up her sleeve can either A) Deal with an Arbiter or B) will happen fast enough it doesn't have to. Either option is frankly terrifying, admittedly.
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Sep 3, 2021 18:45
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Wait so our goal here is to raise the "Hazard Level" of the library and be seen as a threat to the city? We want to piss off the Powers That Be? I actually have been wondering something. Roland is a video game protagonist of a certain type. The washed-up-loser type. And those types tend to go a certain way with their characters. Like the washed up old gunsmith from Trigun, or the myriad “I’m nobody” characters that turn out to he crazy badass through basically almost every anime ever. Is Roland a washed up fixer that is Grade 9, or is he Grade 9 because he washed up? He managed to get into the library without being invited, and considering how easy it is for him to murder other Grade 9 fixers, and now is about to fight a drat abnormality, I am starting to have some doubts about our old buddy Roland and how he’s represented himself. Sure, Angela gave him new limbs that are apparently turbocharged, but he sure seems to know how to use them. Edit: hell, he seemed pretty drat confident he could take two-on-one of the same grade as him. Mecha_Face fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:2. the Abnormalities will help us after we beat them somehow which absolutely will mean that it's not implausible to work our way up to fighting Arbiters and whatnot. The Head: We have an Army! Angela: we have a Bird distant screeching in the background
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Oh boy, abnormality battles! My least favorite part of the game! I'll get into that more when we actually get to see what they entail. Mecha_Face posted:
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Sep 3, 2021 19:19
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Mecha_Face posted:I actually have been wondering something. Roland is a video game protagonist of a certain type. The washed-up-loser type. And those types tend to go a certain way with their characters. Like the washed up old gunsmith from Trigun, or the myriad “I’m nobody” characters that turn out to he crazy badass through basically almost every anime ever. Is Roland a washed up fixer that is Grade 9, or is he Grade 9 because he washed up? He managed to get into the library without being invited, and considering how easy it is for him to murder other Grade 9 fixers, and now is about to fight a drat abnormality, I am starting to have some doubts about our old buddy Roland and how he’s represented himself. TeeQueue posted:
He's definitely hasn't told us everything yet.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:36
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Judging from this hellhole of a City, probably a typo on the taxes.
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Sep 3, 2021 19:48
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MetaMeme posted:What kind of incident would be enough to do that? The White Nights and Dork Days, for one…
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MetaMeme posted:What kind of incident would be enough to do that? Spilled red wine on the Head’s brand new white couch.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Spilled red wine on the Head’s brand new white couch. So that's where punishing bird's design comes from...
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Sep 3, 2021 20:27
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He's Grade 7, people. Don't diss Roland
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the Orb of Zot posted:Judging from this hellhole of a City, probably a typo on the taxes. Got caught pirating H(ollywood) Corp's latest blockbuster film.
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NHO posted:He's Grade 7, people. Don't diss Roland TeeQueue posted:
Also, he doesn't need help self-dissing. TeeQueue posted:
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Considering the background I gave one of my own nuggets has her as a 17-yr-old who lied and said she was 21 on her application form to LobCorp, I could totally believe that Finn is younger than stated, honestly. Also, I see that in the absence of new evidence for the Angela discourse... we've moved onto Roland discourse. Although I'm not sure this is exactly discourse because most people seem to more-or-less agree that he's lying somewhere or other in his story.
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NullBlack posted:Ideally Roland will be capable of handling an Arbiter by the time one of those show up. 
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Yggdrasi posted:I wonder how ranking up as a fixer works? Like do you take a test? Is it dependant on how many problems you solve? Whats the difference between and rank 9 and 8 fixer? Maybe it's a matter of who you work for? Yun's office wasn't exactly extravagant - perhaps the office itself is grade 9.
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Yggdrasi posted:I wonder how ranking up as a fixer works? Like do you take a test? Is it dependant on how many problems you solve? Whats the difference between and rank 9 and 8 fixer? One of the Wing's Singularities is an infinite comment section where omniscient beings have unending arguments about people's power levels. By using T-corp technology to analyze these discussions, the City is able to give every Fixer a rough Grade.
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