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"Boris Johnson's treatment of refugees and the woke taliban calling all authors 'they' in a university publication featuring authors of many genders where their personal pronouns may not be known in advance are equally oppressive." Interestingly the Express version of the interview cuts out all the transphobic stuff and instead puts in a bunch of sectarian stuff, "We were northern, working-class and Catholic, and to me, Englishness was Protestant and southern, and owned by people with more money." e: Kowloon means 'nine dragons' because of a phonetic association or because of the number of dragons that live there. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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How do you make money? Well I poo poo out a rubbish book for people who don’t really like reading every year then spew some gender hate for a bonus how bout you lol
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Maugrim posted:I mean... She staggers so close to an understanding there. Nah she doesn't, she's just a Liberal and wants to be treated with kid gloves and never be asked for a second of introspection where they might have to confront their own prejudice and will use all the intellectual waffling she can to avoid it.
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Jakabite posted:How do you make money? Well I poo poo out a rubbish book for people who don’t really like reading Uh, I don't understand why you'd think Hilary Mantel's readers don't like reading. I'd guess they read way more than average, and form the backbone of many book clubs. Full disclosure: I have (hitherto) enjoyed several Mantel novels.
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Hilary Mantel, JK Rowling, and Garry Bushell collaborate in an all new crime fiction, working class detective Peen Spotter combats the anti-Catholic tyrant Halal Cromwell and his nefarious plot to call everyone 'they' in 17th century England.Angrymog posted:Turns out Messerschmitt are bringing back their bubble car as an anniversary special.
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Did people really care about being European before Brexit? It just feels like a really fake affectation that people took on in response to being told the bad people were Brexit boys.
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Oh dear me posted:Uh, I don't understand why you'd think Hilary Mantel's readers don't like reading. I'd guess they read way more than average, and form the backbone of many book clubs. My bad I guess, I see her on the best selling lists and assume it’s another shocking crime novel a la Dan Brown, like the non military equivalent of Tom Clancy. If I’m wrong then apologies. Just seems like there are better books out there
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My favourite weirdly diversified bike manufacturer will always be Kawasaki - your one-stop shop for supertankers, bullet trains, and motorbikes with unconventional air intakes. Ducati are a close second only because they split fairly early on so the company that makes the generators and switching equipment for power grids only shares a name now with the one that makes automation equipment (the traffic control room featured in The Italian Job is actually based on the real Ducati automated traffic-management system in Turin which the Italians were *immensely* proud of), and the one that makes very red motorcycles. I think the nearest we got to that over here was BSA, which was a deeply weird company in a lot of ways but for the purposes of this discussion all you need to know is after World War I they realised they wouldn't need to make any more guns for quite a while so turned their factories over to making anything else made of metal with lots of moving parts - motorbikes, cars, power tools, escalators, bicycle gears, telephone switches, and dozens of other lines out of weird little sheds dotted around Birmingham. World War II meant they had to go back to making shootbangs (and military vehicles) but after the war they decided that the safest bet was just to make the two things that had been most successful between the wars, cars and motorbikes, because it wasn't like the Italians, Germans, and Japanese would be able to give them much competition, was it? This is why BSA's main business is now selling t-shirts with the BSA logo on them.
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Guavanaut posted:Peen Spotter In his dream world this is the job Glinner would have, to keep changing rooms and toilets pure.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Did people really care about being European before Brexit? It just feels like a really fake affectation that people took on in response to being told the bad people were Brexit boys. goddamnedtwisto posted:This is why BSA's main business is now selling t-shirts 
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Jakabite posted:My bad I guess, I see her on the best selling lists and assume it’s another shocking crime novel a la Dan Brown, like the non military equivalent of Tom Clancy. If I’m wrong then apologies. Just seems like there are better books out there I've only read Wolf Hall but it was very good
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So is she a terf, a melt or both? FWIW I listened to the first quarter of Wolf Hall on audiobook and it seems pretty good but I didn't get around to listening to the rest.
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stev posted:So is she a terf, a melt or both? FWIW I listened to the first quarter of Wolf Hall on audiobook and it seems pretty good but I didn't get around to listening to the rest. she’s just got outdated opinions, including that the british public just don’t love having a buffoon as a PM
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Gonzo McFee posted:Did people really care about being European before Brexit? It just feels like a really fake affectation that people took on in response to being told the bad people were Brexit boys. I did. Might have been in a minority though. It was part of my identity taken away from me without my consent so yeah that is actually going to upset some people you know.
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She's definitely hopped on the train of talking about a real problem (endometriosis is very bad and frequently mis/underdiagnosed due in part to it being complex and not well studied but also due to structural misogyny in healthcare), and then swinging around and blaming trans people, like if only the cis male endocrinologists were a bit more transphobic they'd suddenly be less sexist or something.
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Jakabite posted:My bad I guess, I see her on the best selling lists and assume it’s another shocking crime novel a la Dan Brown, like the non military equivalent of Tom Clancy. If I’m wrong then apologies. Just seems like there are better books out there I’m reading the last Cromwell book now. The series is actually extremely good. “Literary” historical fiction: well researched, good characterisation, unusual style (Cromwell is referred to as just “he” by the author), funny, touching, and educational about 1500s Europe. Think I’ll reread Neal Stephenson’s Baroque Cycle next for a silly take on the following time period (1600s). E: disappointing that Mantel is a terf
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Guavanaut posted:She's definitely hopped on the train of talking about a real problem (endometriosis is very bad and frequently mis/underdiagnosed due in part to it being complex and not well studied but also due to structural misogyny in healthcare), and then swinging around and blaming trans people, like if only the cis male endocrinologists were a bit more transphobic they'd suddenly be less sexist or something.
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Jakabite posted:My bad I guess, I see her on the best selling lists and assume it’s another shocking crime novel a la Dan Brown, like the non military equivalent of Tom Clancy. If I’m wrong then apologies. Just seems like there are better books out there Oh no, her books are better than that. She started out writing slightly surreal novels and then moved into historical stuff. Good middlebrow, I suppose one might call it.
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Oh dear me posted:Oh no, her books are better than that. She started out writing slightly surreal novels and then moved into historical stuff. Good middlebrow, I suppose one might call it. In that case my bad! Guess I was just looking for an easy dunk on a terf but must try harder in my terfdunking
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Being proud of being European screams of a dogwhistle to me, funny how the guardian are all worried about the scientists and students in Switzerland and the second home in France, but not the poor Eastern European buggers being forced to work in a car wash in Stoke.
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It's because when the higher-ups at the Guardian were on their Gap Yah in Europe, those countries weren't part of 'Europe', so their Interrail card (that Daddy paid for) didn't cover places as foreign and strange as Banska Bystrica, Gyor, Timisoara, Nesebar or London.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Looks like team lib have identified the correct problem and are gunning for completely the wrong solution agaaaiiinnn liberals instinctively avoid going after anyone they recognise as actually having any power when they can find an excuse to attack an acceptable target and will use the flimsiest logic imaginable to do so
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I actually know someone who is quite fond of the "european" idea but she is a genuinely nice and Correct person. I think it's still a holdover of rather lib-ier early years but I think it is also just how she parses internationalism. It does still have a bit of the whole Gap Yah thing about it though, though in her case I think it's just that she does actually like old european cities and stuff which I've never been interested in. I still think she looks at it as a way to somehow disaffiliate from britnats though.
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Jakabite posted:My bad I guess, I see her on the best selling lists and assume it’s another shocking crime novel a la Dan Brown, like the non military equivalent of Tom Clancy. If I’m wrong then apologies. Just seems like there are better books out there Nah Mantel takes like 10 years to put out a rigorously researched historical novel about ugly but powerful men that she has historical crushes on I liked the first two Wolf Hall books and haven't got through the final one yet Theyr good books but her being a reactionary is extremely unsurprising given how she writes about stuff
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feedmegin posted:I did. Might have been in a minority though. It was part of my identity taken away from me without my consent so yeah that is actually going to upset some people you know. Me too. I lived in Germany for a couple of years in my teenagedom and did a Gap Yah before they became a thing (mainly because I had skipped a year of school -  - so the parentals and myself thought a year out before going to uni and joining 'my' peer age year group would be A Good Thing*. I worked as a chambermaid in a hotel in Bavaria known for holding the G7 in recent years. (If you can be bothered to look it up, it wasn't that posh back then! There was some big skiing championship in Garmish Partenkirchen - famous ski place - and we had beds made up in baths!))*hah. It wasn't, for reasons. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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I'm sure the exec who thought up this idea is regretting it now https://twitter.com/pseudo310/status/1433792325046710277
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xtothez posted:I'm sure the exec who thought up this idea is regretting it now One time at work, I was whistling The Red Flag while jauntily bouncing down the staircase only to meet the Chief Executive coming up the staircase. He gave me a big grin. Why, yes, I did find myself on the redundancy list a few months later. (Not that I was displeased about that! Very happy actually, went up and down Walthamstow market singing "I'm free")
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:One time at work, I was whistling The Red Flag while jauntily bouncing down the staircase only to meet the Chief Executive coming up the staircase. He gave me a big grin. Isn't that the same tune as some christmas song?
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A song about a tree that became a Christmas song, a scouting song, a workers' song, and a Confederate sympathizer song, among others.
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Miftan posted:Isn't that the same tune as some christmas song? Yes. O Tannenbaum. But it was the middle of summer. He knew.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x3z624U-0s
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Also while I don't like his take on the internationale, billy bragg is at least partially responsible for greatly improving the red flag by making it sound less like a funeral dirge. Did not think I would heard the singer from nightwish doing a crimbo song lmao.
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feedmegin posted:I did. Might have been in a minority though. It was part of my identity taken away from me without my consent so yeah that is actually going to upset some people you know. I still do but then I'm a filthy euro migrant so. It's funny me moving to Britain happened almost incidentally, I just wanted to go to uni somewhere abroad and ended up staying. I think it's somewhat common on the continent (and in RoI, but that seems to be included in "the continent" these days). Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:liberals instinctively avoid going after anyone they recognise as actually having any power when they can find an excuse to attack an acceptable target and will use the flimsiest logic imaginable to do so
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“Other people can’t have anything for free or any fun without consequences (If I have to be miserable with who I am and married to someone I hate so does everyone else)”
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Gonzo McFee posted:Did people really care about being European before Brexit? It just feels like a really fake affectation that people took on in response to being told the bad people were Brexit boys. I did, thought it was great. Hope to be European again some day. Edit : and also gently caress those that voted leave, including the lexit wankers. Will never forgive them. keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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learnincurve posted:Being proud of being European screams of a dogwhistle to me, funny how the guardian are all worried about the scientists and students in Switzerland and the second home in France, but not the poor Eastern European buggers being forced to work in a car wash in Stoke. I didn't feel proud of it. It was part of my identity, just like being British is without my festooning my house with Union Jacks or longing for the return of the Empire.
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I don't know that I would count being british as part of my identity. I mean yes obviously it is a valid descriptor of where I was born and where I live but I don't think of it the way I think about my political positions, or even things like sexuality, which I think is mostly an identity because everyone else makes it one and because it ties in with my political positions. Other than politics I don't actually think I have anything I would consider to be a strong component of "my identity" actually, there are lots of things I do but I don't make them into core parts of who I am. I don't identify as a Gamer despite playing a huge amount of videogames, it's a thing I do, not a thing I am. There are things that I can't stop other people from identifying me as, but that doesn't mean internalize them and start identifying myself like that. And that seems like a pretty tangible distinction at least to me. It doesn't feel as if anything has changed re: european-ness, like yes I am not legally allowed to go there if ever the fancy took me but I don't really think that it has somehow changed me as a person. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Sep 4, 2021 |
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