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GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Thanks for the info. More than likely if I did get back into FFXIV then I’d probably use it on my M1 mini that I use for a media center in my tv, but it was just a thought.

Thanks all!

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FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I'd get 16GB, especially if you're going to play games or do anything graphics-intensive, since the graphics obviously share that RAM

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I don’t have any issues with games or FFXIV on my 16gb pro.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Just venting guys but man I was so utterly pissed the genius bar determined me closing and opening my screen was my fault for damage and I had to pay the 99 dollars. I just got the thing last Friday.

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos

teraflame posted:

Are you using the logi dongle or reg Bluetooth?

bluetooth.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
What are the odds we get an updated Macbook announcement next week?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

frogbs posted:

What are the odds we get an updated Macbook announcement next week?

0.000001%.

I won’t say 0.0 because wild things have happened but it’s highly unlikely

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Legit sitting here waiting for a new M1 Mac Mini with >1 monitor support and I'll insta-buy.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

MarcusSA posted:

0.000001%.

I won’t say 0.0 because wild things have happened but it’s highly unlikely

Sad trombone.wav

TraderStav posted:

Legit sitting here waiting for a new M1 Mac Mini with >1 monitor support and I'll insta-buy.

I'm prettysure you can run two monitors on the M1 Mac Mini's, one via HDMI and one vis USB-C.

From:
https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-mini/connect-a-display-apd8e4fbbb97/mac

quote:

For Mac mini with Apple M1 chip, you can connect one external display up to 6K using a Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) port, and one external display up to 4K using the HDMI 2.0 port.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

TraderStav posted:

Legit sitting here waiting for a new M1 Mac Mini with >1 monitor support and I'll insta-buy.

The M1 Mac Mini already supports 2 monitors. One via HDMI, one via USB-C/Thunderbolt.

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

Brain Issues posted:

The M1 Mac Mini already supports 2 monitors. One via HDMI, one via USB-C/Thunderbolt.

If their's is anything like mine, it 'does' support it, but not well.

It may be more of an issue with my secondary monitor itself, but I'm planning to just bypass the whole issue by switching to a single 34" ultra wide.

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008


It supports it fine, just one via HDMI and the other Thunderbolt 🤷‍♂️

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Bah, I wasn’t aware of that, good news! But the HDMI caps out at what resolution?

Maybe I’m waiting for it to support 3 then.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

TraderStav posted:

Bah, I wasn’t aware of that, good news! But the HDMI caps out at what resolution?

Maybe I’m waiting for it to support 3 then.

HDMI caps @ 4K, Tb 6K

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Not sure why I had hdmi capping at 1440p in my head, I'll be damned. I'll sit tight to see if there's a pre Christmas refresh (unlikely) and jump on a 16gb next time I get a chance. My current set up uses 3 monitors but I want to move up to an UW 49" so that would change things.

Thanks!

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

incoherent posted:

Just venting guys but man I was so utterly pissed the genius bar determined me closing and opening my screen was my fault for damage and I had to pay the 99 dollars. I just got the thing last Friday.



Good (maybe) news, there’s a class action suit for this.

So if nothing else it’s likely you’ll get you $99 back.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

TraderStav posted:

Not sure why I had hdmi capping at 1440p in my head, I'll be damned. I'll sit tight to see if there's a pre Christmas refresh (unlikely) and jump on a 16gb next time I get a chance. My current set up uses 3 monitors but I want to move up to an UW 49" so that would change things.

Thanks!
I vaguely recall reading about some weird ultrawide issues on the M1 Macs, like it wouldn't run full resolution despite being lower than the 16:9 supported resolutions and having the right cables and such. Pretty sure there's some billion page thread on the macrumors forums about it.

forbidden dialectics
Jul 26, 2005





BlackMK4 posted:

Agreed with above about buy a 16GB.

Also, FFXIV dropped performance pretty heavily on my Air until I did the thermal pad mod. You might just want to get the Pro.

I've seen a lot of posts/videos about how this make the chassis "dangerously" hot. Is that CYA or does it actually make the bottom hot enough to cause burns?

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

japtor posted:

I vaguely recall reading about some weird ultrawide issues on the M1 Macs, like it wouldn't run full resolution despite being lower than the 16:9 supported resolutions and having the right cables and such. Pretty sure there's some billion page thread on the macrumors forums about it.

Thanks for the heads up, it looks like Apple acknowledge the issue back in December but I can't find a follow-up that they resolved it.

Perhaps this huge UW is not the panacea that I'm envisioning, but the idea sure is awesome.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

forbidden dialectics posted:

I've seen a lot of posts/videos about how this make the chassis "dangerously" hot. Is that CYA or does it actually make the bottom hot enough to cause burns?

i've seen enough people saying it gets uncomfortably hot. perhaps not a "burn", but enough that i wouldn't do it. if you drastically need the 15% performance boost or whatever i'd just get a mini or an mbp.

also nobody talks about this but ive seen a few posts talking about it shooting up the battery temps, too

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos

forbidden dialectics posted:

I've seen a lot of posts/videos about how this make the chassis "dangerously" hot. Is that CYA or does it actually make the bottom hot enough to cause burns?

Its in no way going to be worse than a first gen unibody Intel MBP at full tilt.

It's been 15 years, consumers are now literally children.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

How soon we forget the Black MacBook

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

My 12" Powerbook G4's chassis warped from the heat. They were called "Firebooks" for a reason.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Crunchy Black posted:

Its in no way going to be worse than a first gen unibody Intel MBP at full tilt.

It's been 15 years, consumers are now literally children.

Ya I'm sure a fan cooling a hot CPU is just as dangerous as loving marinating your battery in CPU heat, which by the way already gets extremely hot and was supposed to be cooled by the same thing you've now hacked to grab heat out of the CPU instead lmao

F1DriverQuidenBerg fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 10, 2021

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
It probably leads to quicker battery life degradation, but I don't think you're seriously endangering the safety of the device.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I mean the M1 is in an iPad now which is an even smaller and more thermally constrained chassis than the MacBook Air and they're not burning off any fingertips as far as I know :shrug:

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
i've been on the market for a windows laptop for literally like 10 months and i'm giving up on anyone ever shipping a good product so now i'm sighing and looking at macbooks

i know we've got the big macbook event coming up in a month or two, but my understanding is that that's gonna be a $1800+ pro refresh, right? if i'm on the market for something in the $1000-$1200 range i should be fine to get an m1 air now, right?

i see apple has some refurb m1 MBAs with 16 gigs of ram on their site, which ship faster than the two week lead time for getting a new one with 16GB - any reason to be worried about getting a refurb, especially if i'm buying applecare+? seems like with such a closed system it's not really any different from getting a new one, other than that they had to do a system reset and do a clorox wipedown or whatever

then again, now i see https://www.techspot.com/news/91185-apple-faces-potential-class-action-lawsuit-over-cracking.html and maybe i just will never get a personal laptop again and i should just get an ipad or something

abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Sep 10, 2021

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

abraham linksys posted:

i've been on the market for a windows laptop for literally like 10 months and i'm giving up on anyone ever shipping a good product so now i'm sighing and looking at macbooks

Have you heard of the Framework? I've heard good things! https://frame.work/

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:

frogbs posted:

Have you heard of the Framework? I've heard good things! https://frame.work/

It's tempting, but I'm worried about spending $1000 on a laptop by a company that might disappear tomorrow, even a laptop that's "repairable"

like, doesn't matter if I can replace the mainboard myself if the company goes under and I can't buy a new mainboard lol

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos

italian quid posted:

Ya I'm sure a fan cooling a hot CPU is just as dangerous as loving marinating your battery in CPU heat, which by the way already gets extremely hot and was supposed to be cooled by the same thing you've now hacked to grab heat out of the CPU instead lmao

you really don't understand how burn-your-dick-off hot the Radeon 2018 MBPs get do you lol

or you're just willfully misunderstanding physics. Teslas catch on fire but it ain't because it's hot ambient.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

abraham linksys posted:

i've been on the market for a windows laptop for literally like 10 months and i'm giving up on anyone ever shipping a good product so now i'm sighing and looking at macbooks

i know we've got the big macbook event coming up in a month or two, but my understanding is that that's gonna be a $1800+ pro refresh, right? if i'm on the market for something in the $1000-$1200 range i should be fine to get an m1 air now, right?

i see apple has some refurb m1 MBAs with 16 gigs of ram on their site, which ship faster than the two week lead time for getting a new one with 16GB - any reason to be worried about getting a refurb, especially if i'm buying applecare+? seems like with such a closed system it's not really any different from getting a new one, other than that they had to do a system reset and do a clorox wipedown or whatever

then again, now i see https://www.techspot.com/news/91185-apple-faces-potential-class-action-lawsuit-over-cracking.html and maybe i just will never get a personal laptop again and i should just get an ipad or something

there's rumours of an m2 mba refresh so it's up to you whether you think that's worth waiting for.

otherwise i think you'd be fine.


Crunchy Black posted:

you really don't understand how burn-your-dick-off hot the Radeon 2018 MBPs get do you lol

or you're just willfully misunderstanding physics. Teslas catch on fire but it ain't because it's hot ambient.

imo it's not about danger to the battery so much as increased degradation over time

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

abraham linksys posted:

i've been on the market for a windows laptop for literally like 10 months and i'm giving up on anyone ever shipping a good product so now i'm sighing and looking at macbooks

i know we've got the big macbook event coming up in a month or two, but my understanding is that that's gonna be a $1800+ pro refresh, right? if i'm on the market for something in the $1000-$1200 range i should be fine to get an m1 air now, right?

i see apple has some refurb m1 MBAs with 16 gigs of ram on their site, which ship faster than the two week lead time for getting a new one with 16GB - any reason to be worried about getting a refurb, especially if i'm buying applecare+? seems like with such a closed system it's not really any different from getting a new one, other than that they had to do a system reset and do a clorox wipedown or whatever

then again, now i see https://www.techspot.com/news/91185-apple-faces-potential-class-action-lawsuit-over-cracking.html and maybe i just will never get a personal laptop again and i should just get an ipad or something

I'd wait on any Mac purchases

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


So with the rumored 14 inch MacBook pro all but certain at some point before 2022, what's the resolution going to be? I want to know now so I can download a ton of wallpaper from interface lift before it goes down again lol.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

abraham linksys posted:

i've been on the market for a windows laptop for literally like 10 months and i'm giving up on anyone ever shipping a good product so now i'm sighing and looking at macbooks

i know we've got the big macbook event coming up in a month or two, but my understanding is that that's gonna be a $1800+ pro refresh, right? if i'm on the market for something in the $1000-$1200 range i should be fine to get an m1 air now, right?

i see apple has some refurb m1 MBAs with 16 gigs of ram on their site, which ship faster than the two week lead time for getting a new one with 16GB - any reason to be worried about getting a refurb, especially if i'm buying applecare+? seems like with such a closed system it's not really any different from getting a new one, other than that they had to do a system reset and do a clorox wipedown or whatever

then again, now i see https://www.techspot.com/news/91185-apple-faces-potential-class-action-lawsuit-over-cracking.html and maybe i just will never get a personal laptop again and i should just get an ipad or something

official Apple refurbs purchased directly from Apple and not Amazon or anybody else are :discourse:, yes

totally worth going that route and saving money + time if you don't want to wait for a MBA refresh that might not happen until 2022 or 2023

we've said this for a decade+, "indistinguishable from new", yadda yadda, it should really be tiled into the background of the thread

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

mediaphage posted:

imo it's not about danger to the battery so much as increased degradation over time
Imagine owning one long enough to notice :v:

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

BlackMK4 posted:

Imagine owning one long enough to notice :v:

what a weird comment. most macbook buyers keep theirs forever. it’s part of the appeal. i still regularly use 9 and 10 year old macbooks though both have had the battery replaced.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

BlackMK4 posted:

Imagine owning one long enough to notice :v:

my MBP is 8

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

mediaphage posted:

what a weird comment. most macbook buyers keep theirs forever. it’s part of the appeal. i still regularly use 9 and 10 year old macbooks though both have had the battery replaced.

Meh, the resale is part of the appeal to me. I can trade up every year or two at minimal expense.

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Yeah my rule has generally been "between 5 and 7 years" for a laptop and it's worked out pretty well for me for a long time now. Honesty I would have replaced my 2015 MBP that I'm still using a while ago but 2 things: COVID hosed me in 2020 and then I spent every cent of new computer money I could on my new 12.9" iPad Pro M1 earlier this year. I'm still thinking of replacing this thing but honestly my main complaints with it are not big enough yet to really spend a bunch of money.

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Is the M1 ipad pro a noticeable improvement over the previous versions? I don't need a new iPad yet but mine's the first gen pro from 2015 so I am more aware of it's potential to die randomly with each passing year so I wanna know what my best options are. I use it for internet stuff but also heavily for Procreate and Clip Studio to a lesser extent

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