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Who What Now posted:Wait so gay characters just aren't ever allowed to die? Are you aware that it was basically illegal for gays to have a happy ending in fiction for decades? So, yeah, gently caress puritan morality, all gays get happy, loving endings by law for 30 years unless the writer is openly gay. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His...t%20the%20time.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Oh, hadn't known that, I assumed Cio was getting loving bodied in the next comic, that's good to hear. Like, yeah, bad poo poo can happen, it would just suck to kill Cio for cheap drama. Probably wouldn't happen, because it doesn't feel very KSBD, but I was a little I mean, there's still a decent chance that she gets even more hosed up than she currently is (if only to deny Allison the rest of her support network at this extremely trying time), but odds are it ain't going to be permanent.
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Malpais Legate posted:Yeah there's no way in hell that after all that build up for White Chain's apotheosis that Abaddon would just off her.
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With the teleportation ability granted by the key Allison may be uniquely able to go into the void to grab an angel, so even if White Chain got "killed" we'll probably see her again soon. Though I suspect she's in roughly the same condition as the two we've seen. They seem to have taken the same hit, being merged into one being at the time.
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Mile'ionaha posted:Are you aware that it was basically illegal for gays to have a happy ending in fiction for decades? As a queer non-binary person yes I am aware of how poo poo LGBTQIA+ rep has been for forever.
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I'm genuinely surprised at people willing to question Abaddon's handling of LGBTQIA+ characters (or any characters), given their ongoing track-record these past 9 years. Unless this is just an idle thought experiment.
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Nilbop posted:I'm genuinely surprised at people willing to question Abaddon's handling of LGBTQIA+ characters (or any characters), given their ongoing track-record these past 9 years. I explained a trope, then specifically stated I wasn't worried about it here. Even if Cio dies, which  seems pretty likely right now.I don't think anyone's doing what you're surprised at.
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Bongo Bill posted:The song "Baby Got Back" (1992) by Sir Mix-A-Lot passes the Bechdel Test. What kind of judgement are you making about Baby Got Back here, sir/madam?
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You can save 2 of the non-Mammon, non-Jagganoth demiurges for a later redemption arc, eventual friendship with the protagonists, and a spot in the spinoff comic where they all live as roommates and wacky hijinks ensue. Who do you pick? IMO: - Mottom would be fun but she had too much of a dynamic with Mammon to come back - David kind of played out his hand of cards but it'd be neat to see if he's able to change in the face of losing his everything... again - Jadis wouldn't really work for a redemption arc but I'm definitely very curious as to what her role could still be - Gog is still definitely alive and tbh while she'd be a fun roommate to have(?!), her general nature is kinda non-redemptionable? - Incubus would probably need a *lot* of redeeming but we definitely have yet to see him fight Maya so there's that Ergo, I'd probably pick Jadis and... I was going to say David because I like his style but tbh I'll have to change my answer to Incubus.
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Bongo Bill posted:The song "Baby Got Back" (1992) by Sir Mix-A-Lot passes the Bechdel Test. lol, nice
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Hempuli posted:You can save 2 of the non-Mammon, non-Jagganoth demiurges for a later redemption arc, eventual friendship with the protagonists, and a spot in the spinoff comic where they all live as roommates and wacky hijinks ensue. Just in a giving each character their due POV. -We havent had any Jadis yet. -David's done. Hes been beaten down and his home is an ash waste once again. --Mottom's also done. Her greatest fears come to pass, but small comfort to her, at least she'll die looking young. -Gog, I feel like she's not done yet, but yeah shes pretty irredeemable by nature, being a hungering swarm more than a person. -Favorite filth boy inky's far from done. Maya has a bone to pick. But maybe she'll take pity on him again and
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Hempuli posted:the spinoff comic where they all live as roommates and wacky hijinks ensue. The goofball and straight man type sitcom taken to the extreme where Jadis is the ultimate straight man just sitting there in her ice block with no response to anything while Gog loses her poo poo trying to entertain and get laughs to no avail. It probably would be good for like one episode but it takes the trope about as far as it can go.
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Surprised so many people are saying no to Dave. He's lost everything except himself, and he's got a whole new chapter of his life ahead of him. He seems like the obvious pick for an ally/roomie.
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Solomon David goes out in a blaze of glory in the next five pages with a ten point ten finger strike and gives Allison and Cio a chance to escape with Jadis. Incubus escapes offscreen, Mottom is done.
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Twenty Four posted:The goofball and straight man type sitcom taken to the extreme where Jadis is the ultimate straight man just sitting there in her ice block with no response to anything while Gog loses her poo poo trying to entertain and get laughs to no avail. The demiurge party: - Mottom broods on the sofa all night, getting drunk on really expensive red wine and hurling insults at everyone who's nearby - Solomon David joins for half an hour out of a sense of obligation, downs a bottle of vodka way too quickly but uses special breathing to instantly metabolize it. Then he goes to his room to meditate, check his stocks and powernap so that he can be perfectly fresh tomorrow - Jadis is being kept in a corner; Gog and Incubus cool their drinks on her crystal casing - Mammon has curled up in front of the fireplace and sleeps soundly throughout, like the good dog he is - Gog is either on the dance floor, daring other guests to drink with her or taking embarrassing pics of other guests and publishing them immediately on instagram - Jagganoth sits in a different corner, reading philosophy - Incubus arrives 3 hours late, materializing from a pool of vomit and immediately steals a lighter and some cigarrettes from a passed-out guest. He either parties or tries to hit on other people
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Hempuli posted:- Gog is either on the dance floor, daring other guests to drink with her or taking embarrassing pics of other guests and publishing them immediately on instagram Not doing all three at once?
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Hempuli posted:- Incubus arrives 3 hours late, materializing from a pool of vomit and immediately steals a lighter and some cigarrettes from a passed-out guest. He either parties or tries to hit on other people  
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Hempuli posted:You can save 2 of the non-Mammon, non-Jagganoth demiurges for a later redemption arc, eventual friendship with the protagonists, and a spot in the spinoff comic where they all live as roommates and wacky hijinks ensue. Gog-Agog and Incubus, no contest. High on the "wacky hijinks", low on the "redemption arc".
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I reject the premise and save all demiurges.
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I think they've all earned the kind of death they're now receiving
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I would assume David is done, either dead or so broken after that loss that he won't be able to do much. But he's my favorite of the demiurges so it would be cool to see him go through a whole new thing and become a good person, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
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Slashrat posted:Not doing all three at once? Fair enough! Every demiurge gets to invite a couple friends; Gog just brings a couple extra Gogs
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FuturePastNow posted:With the teleportation ability granted by the key Allison may be uniquely able to go into the void to grab an angel, so even if White Chain got "killed" we'll probably see her again soon. Though I suspect she's in roughly the same condition as the two we've seen. They seem to have taken the same hit, being merged into one being at the time. They're about to take the same Teabag of Death hit
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Darth Walrus posted:I mean, there's still a decent chance that she gets even more hosed up than she currently is (if only to deny Allison the rest of her support network at this extremely trying time), but odds are it ain't going to be permanent. I feel like she's about to take mammon's key and become yabalcoath again and that keeps her in the fight but fucks up their relationship
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:I reject the premise and kill all demiurges.
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Reach Heaven Through Unwarranted Redemption
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YaketySass posted:Reach Heaven Through Unwarranted Redemption The final name of YISUN is Yeshua
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mammon and dave seem to be the least bad of the seven. dave has his whole authoritarian system but the people at least seem, on the surface, cared for. not bad but not good per se. mammon had desperate people trying to rob him and they found a strange sort of peace in their lives just existing in the shadow of a once great god. content to love their lives in relative peace as long as they fell into line. we haven’t seen anything of jadis’ lands but i assume it’s a calvinistic authoritarian land much like the others. incubus, mottom, jaggs, and gog all seem ducking hellish in comparison. but again that relies on comparison to something slightly less lovely. getting beat once a day is a paradise compared to 30 times a day.
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I'd guess Mammon's worlds were probably Mottom tier barren hellscapes, just with layers and layers of bureaucracy between the exploitation of everything available in them and the currency in the vault. Y'know, Mammon getting to ignore the suffering his empire caused as opposed to Mottom personally attending to the literal blood sacrifices her empire was doing to keep her evil husband tree alive.
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We're talking about an actual dragon sitting on an actual pile of gold, which in itself represents incomprehensible amounts of exploited labor. He is literally a banker and the physical incarnation of greed. What I'm saying is I doubt he's running a cosmic welfare state out there. ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Sep 6, 2021 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Surprised so many people are saying no to Dave. He's lost everything except himself, and he's got a whole new chapter of his life ahead of him. He seems like the obvious pick for an ally/roomie. It'll just be a repeat of his backstory only maybe Allison punches his head off.
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Hypocrisy posted:It'll just be a repeat of his backstory only maybe Allison punches his head off. Will it, though? He tried that approach, and it didn't work. Hard to say whether his pride would even allow him to repeat it rather than trying something completely different. Plus, White Chain and Allison (and possibly Cio) seem like they'd be far more emotionally healthy people to hang out with than Ki Rata monks.
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the demiurges each are responsible for ruining an entire one seventh of all of creation in their own specific way sharing a romcom apartment with them isn't going to lead to loving midnight kisses on the couch
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Cowcaster posted:Reach Heaven Through Wanting to Bone Existence's Worst Disaster My ex wasn't that bad... maybe
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Cowcaster posted:the demiurges each are responsible for ruining an entire one seventh of all of creation in their own specific way sharing a romcom apartment with them isn't going to lead to loving midnight kisses on the couch Counterpoint, see my AV.
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hot take but i think Dave is gonna die to save White Chain he finally created a daughter even if was entirely by accident and he would have killed her in the next instant for offending his Lawyer Brain, but if Rayuba has to burn again i imagine he'd make a stand with every fiber of his being
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paranoid randroid posted:hot take but i think Dave is gonna die to save White Chain He might also do it because between Jagg’s entrance probably killing all of his sons and this, it seems like a safe bet that White Chain is the very last piece of his legacy at this point.
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Regalingualius posted:He might also do it because between Jagg’s entrance probably killing all of his sons and this, it seems like a safe bet that White Chain is the very last piece of his legacy at this point. its solomon david so personal pride is easily mistaken for affection, so lets call it six of one, half dozen the other e. have i mentioned that salami dave is easily one of my favorite antagonists in recent memory paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 6, 2021 |
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