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OhFunny posted:This guy just wake up after being frozen in 2002? we finally found out where covid came from, al-qaeda bio-weapons labs disguised as burger kings, guarded by afghani dogs edit: blair and this idiocy is what helped kick off millions of deaths across the middle east: https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-na-curveball18-2008jun18-story.html
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Jose posted:i hate this man so much 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The last time we invaded it was only possible at all because the Northern Alliance did 95% of all the fighting on the ground. It's too ridiculous to even entertain as a premise. I think we went over this already, but I don't think the Northern Alliance really is the deciding part that's missing now. The US could still roll over most countries if they get their logistics in place. The last time they had Pakistan and Russia cooperating with them, neither of which is particular keen on doing the US favors at the moment.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:dudes aging poorly since his HBO days What a cheesy wonderful show it was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxzQjM0GtA
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lmao wasn't the Taliban tactic of negotiating / cranking up pressure before going with military options one of the main reason why they steam rolled the central government in little over a month?
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The British thing is to just say the exact opposite of reality but with confidence This one weird trick actually works well By the time a majority of people figure it out you're long dead Blair's title after destroying the middle east and going to work for dictators was Middle Eastern Peace Ambassador for example
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...and we will go back in with violence to conquer it to teach them a lesson about violence and conquering
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genericnick posted:I think we went over this already, but I don't think the Northern Alliance really is the deciding part that's missing now. The US could still roll over most countries if they get their logistics in place. The last time they had Pakistan and Russia cooperating with them, neither of which is particular keen on doing the US favors at the moment. The point is that it would require an even bigger commitment than we were willing to make post-9/11. I'm not even sure it's possible to build up the 150,000-200,000 soldiers it would take to re-invade Afghanistan under any circumstance. The Soviets could just drive into Afghanistan, but what are we going to do?
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How much of this Taliban is even the same guys as the 2001 variety? After multiple decades and so much of both their original leadership and rank-and-file getting killed how much continuity is there? Is it still the Ship of Theseus? Or did “Taliban” just become a slogan everyone fighting against the occupation rally around?
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galagazombie posted:How much of this Taliban is even the same guys as the 2001 variety? After multiple decades and so much of both their original leadership and rank-and-file getting killed how much continuity is there? Is it still the Ship of Theseus? Or did “Taliban” just become a slogan everyone fighting against the occupation rally around? Well the US has been thru 4 presidential administrations so the ghouls are all different but the goals are the same. Today’s taliban wants what the 2001 taliban wanted, for us to gtfo
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The Nastier Nate posted:Well the US has been thru 4 presidential administrations so the ghouls are all different but the goals are the same. The 2001 Taliban literally offered to surrender in exchange for amnesty and being allowed to return to their homes. Rumsfeld told them the US does not negotiate with friends of terrorists.
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galagazombie posted:How much of this Taliban is even the same guys as the 2001 variety? After multiple decades and so much of both their original leadership and rank-and-file getting killed how much continuity is there? Is it still the Ship of Theseus? Or did “Taliban” just become a slogan everyone fighting against the occupation rally around? There's alot of oldsters still around, but there's been a large degree of organizational and theological evolution in the generation since their founding. But they're still a cohesive organization, not a slogan.
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Afghanistan war New Game+. Fight the whole war over again! Only this time America starts with zero international support and the Taliban start with max-level equipment including modern artillery and attack helicopters.
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galagazombie posted:How much of this Taliban is even the same guys as the 2001 variety? After multiple decades and so much of both their original leadership and rank-and-file getting killed how much continuity is there? Is it still the Ship of Theseus? Or did “Taliban” just become a slogan everyone fighting against the occupation rally around? 60% of the population is <24 years old (ie. too young to remember life before the 2001 invasion) and the median age is 18; the USA is 30% and 39 by comparison. There will be continuity in key areas but it's very much a new country in general.
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We don't really have a way to reinvade, but we can certainly continue fund and equip IS-K to keep up the chaos
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Often Abbreviated posted:Afghanistan war New Game+. Fight the whole war over again! Only this time America starts with zero international support and the Taliban start with max-level equipment including modern artillery and attack helicopters. Ng+ is supposed to be easier That sounds like Afghanistan hardcore mode Also you have to win to get access to Ng+
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The Nastier Nate posted:Ng+ is supposed to be easier taliban are the players, obviously
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John Charity Spring posted:taliban are the players, obviously Fair point. What would the secret ending be?
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I just read an article, published yesterday, which referenced the Panjshir valley rebels as being powerful and in control. Mainstream journalism on Afghanistan has been worse than fantasy.
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So I saw a new item of Taliban requiring college putting a curtain separating the back half of the classroom, and the male and female students can still can see the black board in the front. I try to find out what the Afghan classroom looked like in the previous 10 years and I couldn't find anything. What I want to know is under the pre-Taliban government, was the male and female students already sit in 2 sides of the classroom or they were mixed seating.
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depended on where you were. In the city it was fairly westernized but usually boys and girls would be on different sides of the class, but without a curtain. but largely girls just straight up didn't go to school out in the countryside, and if they did usually it was segregated in some fashion.
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bedpan posted:I just read an article, published yesterday, which referenced the Panjshir valley rebels as being powerful and in control. Mainstream journalism on Afghanistan has been worse than fantasy. its hilarious that cspam has been consistently more accurate and reliable on afghanistan than the bloodthristy media
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I thought David Bowie was dead.
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Moderate Rebels did a deep dive on Ghani, and apparently he was part of Yeltsin's "reforms". Also has an entire rant calling Ghani a nerd.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Moderate Rebels did a deep dive on Ghani, and apparently he was part of Yeltsin's "reforms". Also has an entire rant calling Ghani a nerd. The west looked at Ghani's history of economic and governmental destruction and thought he was the right man for the job in Afghanistan.
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stephenthinkpad posted:So I saw a new item of Taliban requiring college putting a curtain separating the back half of the classroom, and the male and female students can still can see the black board in the front. I try to find out what the Afghan classroom looked like in the previous 10 years and I couldn't find anything. What I want to know is under the pre-Taliban government, was the male and female students already sit in 2 sides of the classroom or they were mixed seating. I also can't find an actual curriculum in English, but I imagine the Afghans were taught important western ideas. Here is a scene from Adam Curtis' "Bitter Lake". Afghan women in an art class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZMya4ZVSAs  "This is in some ways often called the first piece of conceptual art." https://i.imgur.com/xCvWhde.mp4
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just further cementing every muslims (correct) belief that westerners are flithy poo poo covered pigpens
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let me teach you about the greatness of western civilization through a history of its art also let me teach you about how we think it's a piece of poo poo and a joke
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every single story about afghan university classes about culture gives me the impression that every single professor there had the same "I'm gonna really shock these kids with how wild and crazy and gross western culture is!" mentality i'm almost glad my fiance got some useless finance degree
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As someone who learnt about that marcel duchamp toilet piece in the exact same art history class setting, I find that scene incredibly funny.
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Panjshir resistance leader calls for ‘national uprising’ in Afghanistanquote:The leader of the resistance movement in Afghanistan’s Panjshir Valley called for a “national uprising” against the Taliban. This is just embarrassing.
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OhFunny posted:Panjshir resistance leader calls for ‘national uprising’ in Afghanistan how long until he joins the local isis chapter do you think
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UK Press, and pretty much the entire UK Foreign Policy establishment, is in such disarray, lmao That's +1 on Joe 'Republicans' Biden
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Zedhe Khoja posted:every single story about afghan university classes about culture gives me the impression that every single professor there had the same "I'm gonna really shock these kids with how wild and crazy and gross western culture is!" mentality hmm that doesn't sound good, someone should start an american school of afghanistan to teach them whats up
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Man Musk posted:UK Press, and pretty much the entire UK Foreign Policy establishment, is in such disarray, lmao The funniest thing was exposing the UK in a client state like relationship like how they had no choice but to follow US lead for leaving.
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know I've posted this guys tweets a lot but lol https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1434961851671011330?s=19
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Zohar posted:know I've posted this guys tweets a lot but lol There’s John Kerry’s Purple Heart! 
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Zohar posted:know I've posted this guys tweets a lot but lol This is a real treasure trove for valor thieves.
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Zohar posted:know I've posted this guys tweets a lot but lol do generals just carry around a stack of medals to hand out?
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