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Schnorkles posted:Multiple Idaho health districts have officially instituted triage this morning is...is that bad
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The coherent attempted read on the data right now is that you won't get sick with a vaccine and that you won't spread it to your kids, because its pretty clear that delta is causing people who aren't death cultists to take stock of things like restaurants. One expects we might be getting the spicy economic data towards end month that suggests another downturn.
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people still freaking out about covid after getting vaxxed need therapy, the chance of a breakthrough case is less than 1 in 7 Million (per minute)
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Gio posted:https://twitter.com/monicagandhi9/status/1435223571878481927?s=21 if you think about it, since delta infects MORE people faster, that means LESS people will be infected later, since they already got infected and many of them are dead so there's less people to reinfect. no matter which way you cut it infection rates are gonna fall! so really delta sort of IS the vaccine
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Gio posted:https://twitter.com/monicagandhi9/status/1435223571878481927?s=21 Israel is a good example of what happened
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slippery doc posted:holy poo poo lol, imagine being a NYT reporter and thinking you are being smart by doing this and not actively endangering yourself.
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McNugget Buddy posted:lol this is quite the take kill me https://twitter.com/bexone/status/1435230999353303043?s=20
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Gio posted:https://twitter.com/monicagandhi9/status/1435223571878481927?s=21 blessed that delta is the final form of covid
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slippery doc posted:holy poo poo but still they come
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Sep 7, 2021 15:25
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in general i think the risk to vaccinated people is somewhat overstated itt and there's pretty good science to support it, but i have no idea why i should put my child at risk for number when i can just take precautions and keep him healthy.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:26
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My wife has lost two family members to COVID in less than a week. Hardly anyone in our extended families is vaccinated.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:26
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listen, if you're vaccinated but were still sick enough to need to go tot he ER, that is NOT hospitalization and actually, it's good and fine, and the ER is cheap anyway
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Gio posted:https://twitter.com/monicagandhi9/status/1435223571878481927?s=21 Didn't we just learn that Delta infection only gives you like 8 weeks of natural immunity If we're not locking down for 8 weeks, then won't it just keep reinfecting the same people over and over again
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Sep 7, 2021 15:26
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I wonder how the sleepy joe admin decided 8 months was the right number for booster shots?
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Sep 7, 2021 15:27
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there seems to be this desire that "follow the science" leads to me quibbling over whether my child is at some risk or lots of risk in order to justify brunch and it just seems easier to not go to brunch?? idk, the world has gone insane.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:27
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McNugget Buddy posted:lol this is quite the take i've seen enough 90% shots whiff in x-com to not trust rolling the dice
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Sep 7, 2021 15:28
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I think I have arthritis in both my feet and ankles and some other old injuries are causing me trouble. I need to go to a doctor. RIP me I guess I’ll just live in pain for the next few months while the numbers climb or fall or they stop counting or whatever.
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McNugget Buddy posted:Didn't we just learn that Delta infection only gives you like 8 weeks of natural immunity That is a silly conclusion. From that data the logical conclusion is that we should ensure everyone is infected within 8 weeks.
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is this saying 330 vaccinated people end up in the hospital per day?
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Schnorkles posted:there seems to be this desire that "follow the science" leads to me quibbling over whether my child is at some risk or lots of risk in order to justify brunch and it just seems easier to not go to brunch?? why do you hate brunch so much
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schonorkles hates local businesses and experiences joy when they fail
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Sep 7, 2021 15:32
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trust in Allah but wear a mask. https://twitter.com/meowmeowmia/status/1435093286096719880?s=20
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Serf posted:i've seen enough 90% shots whiff in x-com to not trust rolling the dice
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Sep 7, 2021 15:32
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Everything is getting worse, there's an obvious concerted effort in the media to convince people this is fine, and we're fully opening the dining halls at my university next week. I have to believe that the school admin is just lying and their plan is to do at least one more quarter almost fully remote. But that they won't tell anybody until the very last minute so they can keep all the non-refundable cash from the students.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:33
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McNugget Buddy posted:Didn't we just learn that Delta infection only gives you like 8 weeks of natural immunity Where's that from?
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Person in the cubicle next to me can't stop coughing every few minutes.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:35
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my kids are going back to school this Friday, what are the best and not insanely expensive at-home COVID tests I can buy so when I get the inevitable "a child in your classroom has been exposed to COVID" email I can act right away
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Solarin posted:schonorkles hates local businesses and experiences joy when they fail What kind of world will he leave for his kid, where he won't be able to get some eggs bennie at 11 am on Saturday?
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Sep 7, 2021 15:36
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in the Before Times, me and my therapy dog visited sick kids at that hospital. It's a good one, for the area, and the doctors didn't have all the spirit beaten out of them back when we used to go 
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:why do you hate brunch so much what gets me here is that i'm happy to engage in scientific terms or w/e with people about relative risk levels in an academic sense. I think we should have a solid, actual basis for knowing how contagious delta is in particular settings. the thing that makes zero sense to me is this continuing media narrative that you cannot have a lower risk tolerance than society at large for whatever reason. i understand the capital implications and that our system of commerce is hanging by a thread, but if number thinks the numbers are bad now wait until the hospital system detonates.
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McNugget Buddy posted:Didn't we just learn that Delta infection only gives you like 8 weeks of natural immunity lol natural immunity. USA is crossing their fingers hoping that vaccination and 2 or 3 mild infections will result in it being the common cold. yknow without any hard data to show this is true and will happen neolib scientists and politicians who went whole hog on “look the vaccine prevents infection, open Biden” are seeing Delta gently caress their poo poo up and so a rolling back to “well we really just wanted to prevent hospitalization and death, and preventing infection is a super power that we didn’t think we’d have and so the vaccines are actually very good” without even once acknowledging the immunocompromised, those with comorbidities, the elderly, and children so get vaccinated and hope it becomes a cold or maybe get a booster or like whatever and maybe by next spring it will just be like a cold or something - we ARE NOT shutting down the Applebee’s
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"this is a risk level i do not feel comfortable exposing my unvacinnated child to" "stop being so hysterical" ? ????
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AceOfFlames posted:You know what the worst thing is? to be honest, 5 years from the end of the world is probably the best time to take out 30 year loans
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Schnorkles posted:what gets me here is that i'm happy to engage in scientific terms or w/e with people about relative risk levels in an academic sense. I think we should have a solid, actual basis for knowing how contagious delta is in particular settings. the thing that makes zero sense to me is this continuing media narrative that you cannot have a lower risk tolerance than society at large for whatever reason. i understand the capital implications and that our system of commerce is hanging by a thread, but if number thinks the numbers are bad now wait until the hospital system detonates. Honestly - in a practical sense - I kinda agree.
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Are there still people claiming COVID isn't real at all, or have they all moved on to "It's a real virus but the vaccines are fake?"
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Louisgod posted:my kids are going back to school this Friday, what are the best and not insanely expensive at-home COVID tests I can buy so when I get the inevitable "a child in your classroom has been exposed to COVID" email I can act right away I have never used one but I believe Binax is your option. Just be aware that anecdotally it sounds like testing on kids is extremely hit or miss so I’d read up on it a bit and make sure your timing is decent. Also - calling Petey - when do you think the brain trust will have Airpops tested? it’s been my go to since you posted it.
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Taking out a bunch of no interest until 2013 loans in expectation of never having to pay after 2012 comes. Heh, suckers!
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Schnorkles posted:"this is a risk level i do not feel comfortable exposing my unvacinnated child to" You being unwilling to engage in that risk is undermining the entire project of constructing a new meta-reality that everything is fine and COVID's over for good people.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/01/masks-study-covid-bangladesh/ https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf 
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A co-worker just shared that he's leaving for a new job that lets him do full remote. He's been my COVID doom buddy because I have a heart condition that puts me at risk and he has an asthmatic kid who he doesn't want to infect, so we were pretty loudly in the "gently caress this" section during return to the office discussions. Obviously thrilled for him that he got remote work right on the cusp of the return date. But in talking to him about it, he's still holding out hope for a vaccine for kids and it's like... I don't know, I doom scroll this thread a lot and internalize the cruelty of this country's response but I just don't have the heart to tell a parent I don't think help for his kid is coming. Not like it makes a difference what I say anyway I suppose.
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