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fadam: Apr 23, 2008

I�m not crazy about them either but wolves and werewolves are in a tier just below Angels and Dragons for crazy people wanting to make tribal decks for them.

I read on Maro�s blog the other day that they considered making the type line �were� and �wolf� so that wolf tribal stuff could apply to both but they thought it was too clunky.

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 21:52

Yawgmoth: Sep 10, 2003; This post is cursed!

fadam posted:

I�m not crazy about them either but wolves and werewolves are in a tier just below Angels and Dragons for crazy people wanting to make tribal decks for them.

I read on Maro�s blog the other day that they considered making the type line �were� and �wolf� so that wolf tribal stuff could apply to both but they thought it was too clunky.

They should have just gone Human Wolf since "were" means man and all.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 13:22

little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

!Klams posted:

Am I alone in thinking that werewolves are really boring?

Not specifically in innistrad, but in general. I think it's because they're generic like Zombies, they're 'once human but now other' like zombies, but they don't really have any social commentary beyond, 'man is an animal'. They all look the same, there's not really a great deal you can do with it. I think it's a shame, really, that they're tied down to 'wolves'. I think stuff like werebears, werefalcons, wererhinoes etc would be way more interesting. I mean I know this is the classic horror set and not the 'twist on classic horror' set, I get why. I just hate them hanging these sets on 'Dog. Large dog. Small dog. Angry dog. Big angry dog. Big angry dog that for some reason has projectile attacks. Small angry dog that can become massive under specific circumstances' etc etc, when you've got stuff like Thing in the Ice waiting in the wings.

Actually, I'm gonna walk that back a bunch, I think compared to the generic fodder you get in normal sets, Werewolves are fantastically evocative, I think it's just compared to all the other stuff they kind of pale. I always found the day / night mechanic overly fiddly and unengaging, I think this new one looks a LOT better because it's much more to do with 'night creatures vs day walkers' than 'werewolves in human or wolf form'.

I guess what I'm saying is the Vampire Wedding sounds like it's going to be loving incredible.

it's fun to imagine a normal person who turns into a bad rear end wolf, who runs around killing people with sharp teeth, powerful claws, etc.

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whydirt: Apr 18, 2001; Gaz Posting Brigade

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# ? Sep 9, 2021 13:25

little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

also the social commentary is man reckoning with their own monstrosity. they don't choose or control it, it is simply their nature and they must face the morality test of whether to embrace it or take steps to minimize the danger they present to society.

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

whydirt posted:

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# ? Sep 9, 2021 13:53

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

whydirt posted:

AWOOOO

(werewolf howl)

# ? Sep 9, 2021 13:58

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

Strong Sauce posted:

mentioned in the mtg market watch channel that talks about card prices...

you can see it on mtggoldfish here:

Yeah, this is some dumb fake #mtgfinance poo poo. That card is still worthless.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:00

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

whydirt posted:

AWOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=booKP974B0k

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:14

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Werewolves are cool but there aren't nearly as many good werewolf movies as compared to zombies or vampires. An American Werewolf in London by noted child murderer John Landis rules but I struggle to think of any others

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:15

Captain Invictus: Apr 5, 2005; Try reading some manga!; Clever Betty

werewolves are cool when they're not just furry stronger zombies

some semblance of intelligence makes them way more interesting, but marred by overwhelming bestial fury etc etc

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:16

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

the fourth Innistrad set in 5 years will be a World of Darkness crossover, Red Green and White werewolves fighting against Blue and Black Pentex

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:17

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Werewolves are cool but there aren't nearly as many good werewolf movies as compared to zombies or vampires. An American Werewolf in London by noted child murderer John Landis rules but I struggle to think of any others

How soon we forget Underworld

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:40

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

mandatory lesbian posted:

How soon we forget Underworld

That's both a werewolf and a vampire movie so it's a wash

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:42

Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

mandatory lesbian posted:

How soon we forget Underworld

The CGI and body suit werewolves in that entire series were complete trash. Like comically bad.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:46

Dr Kool-AIDS: Mar 26, 2004

I think I'm the one person who liked American Werewolf in Paris. Tbf I only saw it back when it came out in the theaters so there's every chance I'd hate it now.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:47

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

I actually never saw the first Underworld but I saw the sequel in theaters lol. I remember almost nothing except Bill Nighy was cool and Kate Beckinsale looked good in that bodysuit

# ? Sep 9, 2021 14:50

Fuzzy Mammal: Aug 15, 2001; Lipstick Apathy

whydirt posted:

AWOOOO

If you don't do this with gusto every time they transform (to the backside) at fnm every game every round every week then just gtfo

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:00

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

If you don't do this with gusto every time they transform (to the backside) at fnm every game every round every week then just gtfo

Hell if you don't dress up as Warren Zevon for FNM they shouldn't even let you in the door.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:06

The Klowner: Apr 20, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

being a werewolf is the most fun part of Skyrim. beyond that I don't have any werewolf opinions

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:26

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Actually just realized the werewolf movie I've seen more than any other is the MST3K episode Werewolf. Lmao

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:41

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxHRydG2fNU

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:41

Gramps: Dec 30, 2006

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Actually just realized the werewolf movie I've seen more than any other is the MST3K episode Werewolf. Lmao

I definitely said "Yanaglotchi" more than once when playing a werewolf at the innistrad prerelease.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:47

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Actually just realized the werewolf movie I've seen more than any other is the MST3K episode Werewolf. Lmao

Hell yeah

# ? Sep 9, 2021 15:48

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

Before everyone gets sidetracked by the new Fact or Fiction, I love this.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:05

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Second best 4 mana draw 2 instant ever printed after OG FOF.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:09

YggdrasilTM: Nov 7, 2011

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:17

vegetables: Mar 10, 2012

A card that turned you, the player, into a werewolf would be awesome

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:18

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

YggdrasilTM posted:

Might be good enough for Modern Dredge.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:24

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

vegetables posted:

A card that turned you, the player, into a werewolf would be awesome

Form of the Werewolf.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:29

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

HootTheOwl posted:

new Fact or Fiction

Card's no FoF because it doesn't put the rest in the graveyard and doesn't give the opponent the chance to gently caress up and give you more than 2 cards. Putting the burden on the opponent to guess what you already have and its utility as graveyard enabler give FoF some extra oomph that normal draw spells lack.

Memory Deluge is more like a stronger Behold the Multiverse. That's a good place to be.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:30

Dr Kool-AIDS: Mar 26, 2004

vegetables posted:

A card that turned you, the player, into a werewolf would be awesome

Oh you missed that Secret Lair drop?

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:30

goferchan: Feb 8, 2004; It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

I don't think there's going to be any super relevant cost reduction stuff in standard that I can think of but that X effect is a really clever way to boost the flashback value while nerfing casting poo poo for free

# ? Sep 9, 2021 16:57

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

mcmagic posted:

Might be good enough for Modern Dredge.

Even if it has a narrower scope than Faithless looting, I think this card is a lot better than some of the initial thoughts I'm seeing

# ? Sep 9, 2021 17:05

fadam: Apr 23, 2008

I think it's really strong. Even if you don't care about the GY particularly, the card selection mode is still a nice fail case. Cheap removal spells always play better than they read when they're modal imo.

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Yawgmoth: Sep 10, 2003; This post is cursed!

whydirt posted:

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# ? Sep 9, 2021 17:13

shades of blue: Sep 27, 2012

New Fact or Fiction is going to be format defining in Standard and Historic. It also could see play in Modern but probably won't.

# ? Sep 9, 2021 17:14

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Are you calling Deluge a FoF?

# ? Sep 9, 2021 17:16

mikeraskol: May 3, 2006; Oh yeah. I was killing you.

I'm really annoyed at how bad new Teferi is. The +1 and -2 are loving worthless.

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Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

I think it'll replace the Kaldheim draw-2 in Standard, even at 7 mana you're going to get to the flashback often enough for it to be a significant upside.

I'm not so sure about Historic. I feel like it might be too slow.

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