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Just rewatched the “Josie turns into a desk drawer” episode and I still get baffled by it. I don’t think it’s ever mentioned again from what I remember.
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Some people speculate that the weird hum that Ben Horne and Ashley Judd try to track down is Josie. Doesn't really make sense, but there's no real reason for the scene otherwise.
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Sep 8, 2021 05:01
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Bird in a Blender posted:Just rewatched the “Josie turns into a desk drawer” episode and I still get baffled by it. I don’t think it’s ever mentioned again from what I remember. This is the best explanation you will get for the "Josie becomes a drawer knob" moment - the Log Lady Introduction for that particular episode, written by Lynch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5NxcrA475c Maybe not the clearest answer, but it's an answer!
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Sep 8, 2021 05:56
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Apparently it just happens all the time?
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Sep 8, 2021 12:20
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HD DAD posted:Frost provided the Christmas tree from which Lynch could hang broken ornaments, grisly crime scenes photos, and an entire glazed ham.
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Sep 8, 2021 14:40
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Bird in a Blender posted:Just rewatched the “Josie turns into a desk drawer” episode and I still get baffled by it. I don’t think it’s ever mentioned again from what I remember. For me, that's the link between Josie and the hum in s3.
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Sep 8, 2021 14:43
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kaworu posted:This is the best explanation you will get for the "Josie becomes a drawer knob" moment - the Log Lady Introduction for that particular episode, written by Lynch: she's basically saying "man that Josie in the drawer thing was pretty loving dumb lol"
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Sep 8, 2021 15:25
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Bird in a Blender posted:Just rewatched the “Josie turns into a desk drawer” episode and I still get baffled by it. I don’t think it’s ever mentioned again from what I remember.
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Sep 8, 2021 16:08
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Angry Harry is pretty funny. Like a guy pretending to be mad, but his heart isn’t in it. I had actually watched the Log Lady intro right before the episode, so I knew what was coming. Yea, it didn’t help at all. Almost get like they hated Josie and wanted to come up with the most bizarre way to get rid of her.
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Sep 9, 2021 01:35
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Oh Lordy https://twitter.com/ameliamangan/status/1435828596266844161
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Sep 9, 2021 16:49
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Bird in a Blender posted:Angry Harry is pretty funny. Like a guy pretending to be mad, but his heart isn’t in it. To give you a more reasonable explanation: Lynch had left the show during Season 2 after Leland's story got wrapped up, and had nothing to do with writing Josie into the drawer-knob and found it utterly absurd. It was basically an effort by the remaining writers to do something "weird" that they perceived as being "Lynchian". The Log-Lady Intro is basically David Lynch saying "My work has meaning and metaphor behind it, it's not just random images and sounds meant to be crazy or unnerving; there's logic, intelligence, a hidden design at work. A drawer-knob has absolutely nothing to do with Josie or her story, and the whole thing is meaningless."
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Sep 9, 2021 17:02
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Oh my god, I can't believe that's not actually Wicked Game  Kind of a double Twin Peaks reference, given that Chris Isaak played Special Agent Not-Dale-Cooper in FWWM.
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Sep 9, 2021 17:08
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kaworu posted:To give you a more reasonable explanation: Lynch had left the show during Season 2 after Leland's story got wrapped up, and had nothing to do with writing Josie into the drawer-knob and found it utterly absurd. It was basically an effort by the remaining writers to do something "weird" that they perceived as being "Lynchian". Hahahaha. That is perfect, I love it
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Sep 9, 2021 17:08
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kaworu posted:To give you a more reasonable explanation: Lynch had left the show during Season 2 after Leland's story got wrapped up, and had nothing to do with writing Josie into the drawer-knob and found it utterly absurd. It was basically an effort by the remaining writers to do something "weird" that they perceived as being "Lynchian". edit: in trying to google that, I came across a 2017 article on Josie and Catherine Martell not appearing in season 3, and uhhh I did not realize that Piper Laurie takes credit for coming up with "Mr. Tojamura": quote:Though she won’t reprise her role, Laurie admits she’s excited to see Lynch work his magic on a new cast. “The best part of doing the show was David’s trust in the actors,” she explains, recalling an instance when Lynch allowed her to take full control of her character. Laurie says the director allowed her to choose a unique persona to take on after Catherine’s implied death-by-fire occurred toward the end of season 1. In Catherine’s absence (Laurie’s name was even removed from the credits), the actress chose to go undercover on set and screen as Japanese businessman Mr. Tojamura for one of the series’ best-kept secrets, a stunt which required four hours of makeup and a vow of secrecy between Lynch and Laurie. When it was finally revealed to the audience that Tojamura had been Catherine in disguise the whole time, Laurie says costar Jack Nance, who played her on-screen husband, was fooled as well. “Jack never got it! He never knew it was me, and we had a lot of scenes together on the first day. He went to David and said, ‘Boy, is that new actor weird.’” Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Sep 9, 2021 18:48
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this is amazing lol
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Sep 9, 2021 19:12
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also I could have sworn I read somewhere that Josie's spirit becoming trapped in the wood of the Great Northern was actually Lynch's idea that the writers just tried to use after he left. it doesn't sound like a terrible idea if it's implemented properly but they just did it in the goofiest way possible. this is a show in which pain and sorrow is manifested as creamed corn after all
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Sep 9, 2021 19:18
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Blotto_Otter posted:I am... not entirely sure that having a white woman show up in yellowface is the best example to point to when bragging about Lynch trusting his actors IMO there should be a distinction between a white person playing another race and a white person playing a white person who is pretending to be a different race. Like, was it racist for Leonardo DiCaprio to play a racist in Django Unchained? Blotto_Otter posted:I've read claims that Joan Chen had asked to be written out of the show in order to do a movie (which flopped; allegedly she regretted leaving). So in the writers' defense, they didn't wake up one morning and decide they had to do something weird and off Josie in the lamest way possible; they got asked to write Josie out (and then tried to do something weird/"Lynchian" but failed spectacularly). I just wish they wouldn't have tried to connect that whole part to BOB. That's what cheapened it, to me. Otherwise, it actually was kinda Lynchian.
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Sep 9, 2021 19:28
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Also it seems like a pretty good bit for the storyline which a parody of stupid american dynasty soap operas
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Sep 9, 2021 19:30
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Lord Krangdar posted:IMO there should be a distinction between a white person playing another race and a white person playing a white person who is pretending to be a different race. Like, was it racist for Leonardo DiCaprio to play a racist in Django Unchained? There is a distinction - as a lazy example, even the Wikipedia page on "yellowface" has separate sections for a non-Asian actor playing an Asian character, versus an actor playing a character and the character appears in yellowface. I don't think the latter is inherently racist or not-racist, that comes down to context and execution. With respect to the Tojamura bit, my own opinion is that it was a lazy caricature that did not age well, and that's it. (It might've fit the melodramatic tone of the show, but it relied on a false, caricatured representation of a racial minority to do that and that's neither praiseworthy nor a sin great enough to discredit the rest of the work.) "Racist" isn't a race, so I don't think the DiCaprio comparison is a good one. The most recent situation that springs to my mind is Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder, where he played a character who is a white actor who then appears in blackface. (And even there, Downey and crew arguably get away with it only because the movie attempts to acknowledge the problems with blackface and provide its own commentary on it.)
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Sep 9, 2021 20:20
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Didn't they make Piper Laurie show up backstage in disguise and pretend she was some old Japanese actor to fool the cast? That seems worse.
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Sep 9, 2021 20:41
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Blotto_Otter posted:"Racist" isn't a race, so I don't think the DiCaprio comparison is a good one. The most recent situation that springs to my mind is Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder, where he played a character who is a white actor who then appears in blackface. (And even there, Downey and crew arguably get away with it only because the movie attempts to acknowledge the problems with blackface and provide its own commentary on it.) Obviously racist is not a race. My point was that a character doing something racist is not the same thing as the actor, writers, or show/movie being racist.
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Sep 9, 2021 21:55
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Lord Krangdar posted:Obviously racist is not a race. My point was that a character doing something racist is not the same thing as the actor, writers, or show/movie being racist. Sure, of course it's not the same thing. But the problem people have with Tojamura is not that Catherine Martell the character did something racist, it's that the writers/Lynch/Piper created a whole plotline based on a lazy caricature of a racial minority. Nobody cares if Catherine Martell acts racist, they care about Piper and Lynch thinking it was a good idea to dress Piper up in a bunch of obvious prosthetics, communicate in nothing but grunts and a terrible Japanese accent, and have all the other characters act like this is all normal and fine and not racist at all.
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Sep 9, 2021 23:28
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Blotto_Otter posted:Sure, of course it's not the same thing. But the problem people have with Tojamura is not that Catherine Martell the character did something racist, it's that the writers/Lynch/Piper created a whole plotline based on a lazy caricature of a racial minority. Nobody cares if Catherine Martell acts racist, they care about Piper and Lynch thinking it was a good idea to dress Piper up in a bunch of obvious prosthetics, communicate in nothing but grunts and a terrible Japanese accent, and have all the other characters act like this is all normal and fine and not racist at all. Seems fitting for people to act that way in a small town in America, especially when that's also in a campy soap-opera context. These same people also don't realize something's up with Leland, aside from normal grieving, when his hair turns white and he's running around doing musical numbers.
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Sep 9, 2021 23:36
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I guarantee if Piper Laurie had shown up in that getup in my podunk shithole hometown in 1990, everyone would have just assumed she was a strange Japanese man.
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Sep 10, 2021 02:04
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I didn’t realize that the Log Lady intros were done a couple years after the show. That makes a lot of sense now. Norma’s sister has shown up, played by Jennifer Graham, who is 24 years younger than Peggy Lipton. Credit to Peggy for looking so good at 44 that it isn’t even that noticeable. Also loving all of Windom’s outfits.
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Sep 10, 2021 02:26
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Peggy Lipton in Season 3 could still get it. RIP to a goddess.
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Sep 10, 2021 06:27
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I remember the first time watching Twin Peaks, learning that Peggy Lipton once dated Elvis and thinking "what?! How? She can't possibly be old enough for that you be true!"
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Sep 10, 2021 14:08
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Watched the S2 finale again and while there’s a lot I still try to figure out, there seems to be an intentional mistake of some kind. Nadine and Mike are both getting treated for head injuries when Nadine snaps back to her old self. Bobby gets whacked with a log by Windom, not Mike. Did I completely miss Mike getting hit? My wife and I both don’t remember Mike getting hurt and it seemed like an intentional Lynch thing to gently caress with the viewer.
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Sep 18, 2021 04:46
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mike says that he saw nadine get hit by the sandbag and then a tree hit him. unfortunately we do not see mike get hit by any tree.
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Sep 18, 2021 05:10
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My friends and I are watching the final two episodes of The Return tonight. We’ve slowly made our way through the series over the year and it’s been a great time watching it with some newbies. We even had a costume party! Anyway, it’s sad the journey is ending again. Any good TP memes you have would be appreciated, so I can steal them and take credit.
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Sep 20, 2021 01:17
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Just thinking about Candie Mandie and Sandie. I miss them. I’ve been rewatching The Return for the first time since it aired and good lord it’s incredible. I could watch that man sweep for hours. I live across the river from these cloudy woods and it reminds me every time 
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Sep 20, 2021 05:22
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Starting twin Peaks for the first time today. Looking forward to see where this goes.
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Sep 20, 2021 07:10
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You're gonna hate parts of it. Keep watching!
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Sep 20, 2021 07:19
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On the other hand you will love some of it so much that you’ll sit through all the fluff..just in case
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Sep 20, 2021 07:59
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Just don’t listen to anyone who tells you to skip episodes.
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Sep 20, 2021 08:24
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Back into spoiler mode we go!
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Sep 20, 2021 11:33
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Consummate Professional posted:You're gonna hate parts of it. Keep watching! I straight up took a year+ break from the show on my first viewing because I hated the middle of s2 so much. But it's all essential. WATCH FIRE WALK WITH ME AFTER S2. DON'T SKIP IT. IT. IS. ALL. ESSENTIAL.
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Sep 20, 2021 14:28
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Rewatching Twin Peaks with someone who has never seen it before is one of the most rewarding experiences ever.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:My friends and I are watching the final two episodes of The Return tonight. We’ve slowly made our way through the series over the year and it’s been a great time watching it with some newbies. We even had a costume party! Anyway, it’s sad the journey is ending again. 
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