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Endorph posted:theres a lot of pop-in in general, texture and background details too. npcs are def. the most noticeable tho I haven't noticed textures too much on PS5 in an hour or so, but NPCs pop-in like twenty feet away. it doesn't seem like it should be this bad
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Mystic Arte Spoilers I LOVE this incarnation of Indignation!  It came so early too!
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Sep 12, 2021 01:07
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Shionne from where I am at seems like a good person who does not want to be a good person.
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Sep 12, 2021 01:11
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Who is Shionne, I only know the devourer of food, blackhole of nutrients
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Sep 12, 2021 01:19
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah I should say my argument on a more general level. I haven’t played enough Arise to make a judgement but I think Berseria is just a good story period so that’s a high bar to reach and this game probably won’t I’m kind of feeling the same. The story in Arise is definitely a cut above any game between Abyss and Berseria, but it’s not really pulling me in as much as Berseria did when comparing them both 10-12 hours in, and the characters are all good but I’m not hooked like I was with Magilou or Eizen or even Velvet. But I am eager to see where the story goes from here
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Sep 12, 2021 01:32
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Ershalim posted:I'm really enjoying the game so far. I only have the first four characters unlocked and I've been making my way through on hard because getting beat the gently caress up is kinda fun. The second set piece boss was great once I realized that the game mostly tries to target the character you're playing as, specifically. After I learned that, it was just a matter of playing Rinwell, the wind goddess and just kind of ... flying all the time forever. Huh, interesting. I haven't touched her normal artes yet but I discovered that storing 2x Spread and then casting Air Thrust gives you a large water laser and that's been fun to shoot at things. It can whiff fairly easily but it does good damage.
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Sep 12, 2021 01:53
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I have picked this game up. Kinda digging how everything looks so far. Combat so far seems familiar enough that it shouldn't be an issue for me to enjoy this one. Still only about an hour and some change into the game though.
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Sep 12, 2021 01:55
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I like the eyes on everyone. They seem to have done a good job in animating them. Also agreed on most parts about the combat. I should probably turn of semi-auto since trying to hit weak spots when its a hind leg and the target the game is trying to hit being the head isn't any fun.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:00
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You can actually target the weak point like a normal enemy. It took me a bit to realize that, but it makes those fights a bit easier to deal with. I've been playing on the default difficulty and things seem alright, until this second lord. I lost to him once and took a break from playing, but I'm expecting it to be a pain in the rear end based on what people have been saying.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:05
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Due to Law's actions during the second big boss fight of the game, he will now be permanently wearing the sunglasses attachment that stone cold badass motherfucker
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Sep 12, 2021 02:05
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New Tales good? I've liked the tales games since Symphonia, with that and Abyss being favorites, but I think a lot of that is nostalgia. I bounced off the more recent ones because the dungeons and puzzles were so simple and boring and I felt like I had to do a lot more grinding to keep up with money/skills. I'm sure it's been like this a lot, it just hasn't bugged me until I got older. New game looks really good, are dungeons good? Like they're not just square/linear rooms where you're just walking to the button/action to keep moving onward? PageMaster fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Sep 12, 2021 02:27
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Momomo posted:You can actually target the weak point like a normal enemy. It took me a bit to realize that, but it makes those fights a bit easier to deal with. I didn't have any trouble with him and I'm bad at game. Dodge most of the time, do damage when you can, use items liberally, if you want to you can create a few accessories specifically to combat his element and you should be fine. The dungeon beforehand even gives you a free -50% light accessory to help.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:30
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Its really odd that basically every monster boss has a satisfying amount of hp but all the human bosses (which by the way, I love having so many humanoid bosses otherwise) are absolute slogs to slowly whittle down. I don't get how they got the math off on these this way. The other thing is the third zone very, very, very pleasantly surprised me. Thank you Tales of Arise writing team; we are hurtling 200 km an hour through a story but all the scenery is great so far. Also its just polite design and probably goes back to an game older than this but I'm gonna call it Lost Odyssey where every dungeon contains accessories for dealing with that boss.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:34
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Had to bump it down to Story difficulty for the second Lord. I shouldn't be underlevelled as I've fought every single pack I see, even when backtracking for the (three?) sidequests. Also have the best equipment available. Or should I be endlessly grinding for SP? The boss using their final ability Inquisition - am I supposed to be able to kill the 4 clones in time? Even on Story I don't seem to be able to do enough damage. Edit: actually maybe I should just play as Alphen instead of Rinwell PancakeTransmission fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Sep 12, 2021 02:45
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Barudak posted:Its really odd that basically every monster boss has a satisfying amount of hp but all the human bosses (which by the way, I love having so many humanoid bosses otherwise) are absolute slogs to slowly whittle down. I don't get how they got the math off on these this way. An odd question but: Are you making use of all your character's abilities? For example Shionne gets a poison ability early which works on pretty much everything in the game including bosses and if you sleep on that she's going to be doing reduced damage for sure. Likewise Blazing Sword is an absolutely ridiculous damage boost and if you're worried about using it because of the HP loss you really shouldn't be. The sheer amount of damage Alphin can do with a Blazing Sword attack shouldn't be underestimated. With Rinwell you're going to be spamming high-damage attacks as often as possible, with Law you need to keep his damage boost up, etc. I didn't have any real problem with boss HP but a major part of that was the fact that the game gives almost every character absurd ways to do insane amounts of damage but usually with some risk/reward mechanic. You should be getting used to perfect dodging/air combos/applying status effects/etc because they all contribute heavily to your damage output going way way up. Edit: I really don't recommend grinding for SP as the game gives you more SP and better ways to get SP the further you go. If you're having a lot of trouble trying rejiggering your accessories or changing your tactics. For some boss battles I put on Prioritize Healing which made them go a lot smoother. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Sep 12, 2021 02:51
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PancakeTransmission posted:Had to bump it down to Story difficulty for the second Lord. I shouldn't be underlevelled as I've fought every single pack I see, even when backtracking for the (three?) sidequests. Also have the best equipment available. Or should I be endlessly grinding for SP? You probably can't take down the clones in time but Indignation shouldn't one shot you. It didn't oneshot me on Hard (I was level 17). Also get the -50% light damage accessories if you're having trouble with Ganabelt.. Also higher difficulties give more SP per fight, I think.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:54
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I'm nine hours in and I still only have the one Blazing Sword attack for Alphen, should I have unlocked more by the third region?
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Sep 12, 2021 02:56
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ImpAtom posted:An odd question but: I've been using blazing sword and its constituent bits constantly and working to max it out with SP since, as you point out, its where Alphens damage comes from a lot of the time. Its why I'm perplexed why monster bosses all universally feel like they have a satisfying amount of HP and all humanoid bosses feel like they're too long. Like plant boss in zone three was fun, enjoyable, and well paced (except the weirdness with targeting it at the end of the fight, whatever), and then the humanoid boss immediately following felt awful.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:06
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Arist posted:I'm nine hours in and I still only have the one Blazing Sword attack for Alphen, should I have unlocked more by the third region? They're mostly unlocked by titles but I think you should get at least one other relatively early.
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i have a dumb question: how often should i be switching characters? the game really kinda doesn't seem to explain this, to the point that it seems easy to miss that you can switch at all. i'm currently up to this wolf boss and just got my rear end kicked by its second phase with some ice attack that wiped out my entire party at once, and im not sure if i should be switching to other characters to avoid attacks, or if there's some strategy to use to make them actually dodge things, or what. also took me forever to get the second phase so i'm wondering if i should switch to other characters to increase damage or what e: i tried playing as book girl and did more damage faster which was nice but the same attack wiped the whole party, whoof. i guess even if i managed to dodge all the attacks id have to revive everyone else after since it doesnt seem like theyre able to dodge it. unless theres like an interrupt i should be going for? abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Sep 12, 2021 03:08
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abraham linksys posted:i have a dumb question: You don't need to swap characters ever if you don't want, but it's worthwhile to try different characters to see who you like. Depending on how far you are it's worth remembering that each character's D-Pad attack is a specific counter to a specific type of attack and Alphin's will just generally knock down anything. It's worth using if you see an enemy prepping for a big attack. Also it's usually most worthwhile to try breaking an enemy to stun them if you can because you can perfect dodge at the last second if it doesn't work out.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:17
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man these boss fights are no joke. the 3rd lord just spams mystic artes when near death. its pretty easy to dodge but drat. theres also a charge attack that you can stagger with a boost attack but i never got the timing down and did it only once.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:26
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ASenileAnimal posted:man these boss fights are no joke. the 3rd lord just spams mystic artes when near death. its pretty easy to dodge but drat. theres also a charge attack that you can stagger with a boost attack but i never got the timing down and did it only once. I feel like it isn't a spoiler to say that charge attacks are a bit odd because you'll get a way to reliably stop them fairly soon.
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ASenileAnimal posted:man these boss fights are no joke. the 3rd lord just spams mystic artes when near death. its pretty easy to dodge but drat. theres also a charge attack that you can stagger with a boost attack but i never got the timing down and did it only once. Yeah the timing on that is rude its not like it recharges particularly quick.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:28
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Shionne def needs to take a chill pill or 2 tho
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ImpAtom posted:You don't need to swap characters ever if you don't want, but it's worthwhile to try different characters to see who you like. unfortunately the AI seems to never use their aerial moves and so far all of the status effect moves I have are on Shionne and aerial. so you gotta manually play her to put those effects on. and for Rinwell you want to manually cast Sharpness x2 to buff your whole party and unfortunately there's no ai setting for that (except to make Rinwell only buff herself with Sharpness for some reason) edit: nevermind found it, the setting was buried and for some reason not the default?? FZeroRacer fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Nyoro posted:Shionne def needs to take a chill pill or 2 tho I like the prickly pear in moth eaten rags
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Sep 12, 2021 03:53
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Nyoro posted:Shionne def needs to take a chill pill or 2 tho Early on she kind of reads like someone saw the Velvet was popular and tried to do that again, but also missed the point of why velvet was cool
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I hate how this stupid *3rd area spoilers* Dragon in the 3rd area is just easy enough when you first get to the area that you think maybe you can take it but it has so much health and defense that it's kind of a long stupid slog unless you come back to it later. Maybe when i'm level 30-ish or something instead of 20 I was thinking that the AI in this game is actually pretty smart at not being suicidal but i swear their quality has taken a nose dive ever since 4th member has joined.
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Sep 12, 2021 04:03
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157 hit combo in act two, feels good just hit nerds.
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Anyone else feel like this game loving sucks compared to Berseria? I am getting a lot of FFXIII vibes of “walking along a linear hallway”. And most of the side paths end with you finding an apple gel that I cannot fit in my inventory since I already have 15 apple gels. As everyone else here is mentioning, the bosses are overturned and have way WAY too much health. Each “area” so far has had about 3 different side quests (1 of each) - find me these food items (which you already have), kill 3-5 specific packs of monsters outside town, and walk around town and talk to 1-5 people. This game feels like the most designed-by-committe milquetoast RPG I’ve played in awhile. I thought after Berseria they had finally figured this poo poo out. I have beaten two lords. For anyone who has gotten further, is it worth pushing through? Does it get better?
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Paul Zuvella posted:Early on she kind of reads like someone saw the Velvet was popular and tried to do that again, but also missed the point of why velvet was cool I don't really get that sense at all, other then them being female characters with a goal. She seems more like Tear then Velvet to me.
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ASenileAnimal posted:man these boss fights are no joke. the 3rd lord just spams mystic artes when near death. its pretty easy to dodge but drat. theres also a charge attack that you can stagger with a boost attack but i never got the timing down and did it only once. The third lord is so far the only one I have had to turn down the difficulty for, I was having a lot of trouble with him. At least his Mystic arte is fairly easy to avoid, considering how much he uses it.
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Pastrami posted:
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Momomo posted:I don't really get that sense at all, other then them being female characters with a goal. She seems more like Tear then Velvet to me. If anything, she reminds me of early Milla. I'm a little bit disappointed by finding out what Dohalim's situation is. It was obvious that the territory was not going to be as idyllic as it looked, but the problem with it and his personal fault seemed disconnected. Like, he and Kisara both admit they were complacent that they had solved racism but I don't know, it seemed kind of vague and noncommittal about what they actually should have done.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:so are we assuming the draw distance on NPCs is a bug that's going to be fixed? it's pretty egregious Lol no. It's just very aggressive optimization. The texture/LoD pop-in is at least moddable on PC. Not NPC draw distance though. Pastrami posted:Anyone else feel like this game loving sucks compared to Berseria? Yeah the difference in quality is extremely noticeable. None of the key staff from Berseria worked on this afaik.
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Berseria was structurally totally different, starting from the foundation of its main character. Arise is a more classical type of RPG and it shows. I think it's doing it fine - insofar as imo Alphen is a decent character and a believable party leader, he has an actual back-and-forth dynamic with Shionne, and the game remembers the other party members have thoughts and feelings that aren't how cool he is. Call it a low bar if you want, but unfortunately, they can't all be Abyss.
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Caphi posted:If anything, she reminds me of early Milla. Put simply Dohalim was just kind of lazy. The only reason he was not a tyrant like the other lords is cause sad slaves reminded him of bad events in his past, and because he did not actually want to take part in the contest which a lot of Renans in his employ took as an insult, so they started sabotaging him for some other lord. Dohalim and Kisara feel they could have actually looked a bit beyond the surface to see if there were other problems.
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Caphi posted:If anything, she reminds me of early Milla. The issue is that they didn't solve racism. Dohalim basically just didn't want to be a bastard because it made him feel bad for personal reasons but he did absolutely nothing beyond the surface level required to actually sustain things. He didn't actually want to make things better, he just wanted to make himself feel better, which is what gets pointed out. Rather than working to create a lasting peaceful society he basically set up the kingdom to fail the moment anything went wrong or the moment he left or was replaced. The reason things went so wrong with the Hollowing under his watch was because he wasn't really paying attention beyond just not being a complete bastard. Kisara thought he was being genuine with his beliefs and supported him but had to come to the realization that poo poo was actually still very very bad and Dohalim is culpable in that because he was basically only paying lip service towards the ideals that she believed in wholeheartedly,
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