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Palladium posted:I'm more ever convinced machines would run us better than the current capitalist-chud-lib world order The Matrix prequels show that humans choose capitalism over a post scarcity society. And then they attack the machine city because it turns out the exiled robots are too good at capitalism.
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tokin opposition posted:An entire 30 seconds wow Will be taken out of the workers break times no doubt.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:The Matrix prequels show that humans choose capitalism over a post scarcity society. And then they attack the machine city because it turns out the exiled robots are too good at capitalism. the what
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indigi posted:the what Animatrix (its good)
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Failed Imagineer posted:This Year, Give Her Genuine AIDS Every Kiss Begins With AIDS~
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Doggles posted:https://twitter.com/wesleysmorgan/status/1436404004746051584 Dammit I had almost gone all day without remembering and now I can't say I forgot 
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I don't remember the Frasier opening taking place in New York City
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thalweg posted:We did Lol yeah if you think the powerful didn't hop all aboard the apocalypse express when they figured out just what climate change entailed
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tokin opposition posted:An entire 30 seconds wow Unplugging the milk steamer for the troops
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"Loss."
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wernt a load of people secretly really happy because they got promoted suddenly
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Jel Shaker posted:wernt a load of people secretly really happy because they got promoted suddenly I don't think the Military Industrial Complex actually made a secret about being happy, though.
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Splicer posted:"OK guys you shat out so much carbon you turned the sky black, we're putting you in a VR timeout until we fix all your fuckups." drat, this would have been so much better than what we got. There was no war against the machines. Zion was built as a refuge by the machines and was for keeping safe all the MAGA Ivermectin chuggers, because they refused to get into the pods designed to keep them safe and happy. Morpheus, who even in the original version was batshit insane, now flies around in the NebuCHUDnezzar talking about how people have been turned into batteries and that the Chosen One is a white male willing to obey and believe the last person he talked to - even if they tell them to walk out onto the ledge of a building 50 stories up after just talking to a complete stranger on the phone for 30 seconds. You could have a final confrontation between Neo and the Machines where he asks why they attacked Zion and they're all like, "Mate you fuckers are trying to bring down the system keeping 10 billion people alive and dump them into the toxic wasteland their ancestors created. There's no food or shelter out there, you're gonna kill everyone you bloody dipshit. So, yeah, drat right we're trying to stop you - that's why you made us." And Neo could then ask why The Architect talks so weird and gets told it's because they're the AI made from the combined personalities of 10,000 sysadmins.
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indigi posted:the what the Second Renaissance from the Animatrix is on youtube and it's good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8 and part 2, part 3, and part 4
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Sep 12, 2021 16:34
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Which part has the guy being pulled out of the mech? Because, man, I never need to see* that again. * hear
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Which part has the guy being pulled out of the mech? ten seconds into the final one
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Megillah Gorilla posted:drat, this would have been so much better than what we got. Oh god
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mycomancy posted:Oh god Don't worry, they add up to about .73 of a personality once you filter out pointless computer opinions
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Megillah Gorilla posted:the combined personalities of 10,000 sysadmins. That's a lot of fedora.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:And Neo could then ask why The Architect talks so weird and gets told it's because they're the AI made from the combined personalities of 10,000 sysadmins. The Matrix was designed and built by that? Impossible, it's far too friendly to the end user.
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Complications posted:The Matrix was designed and built by that? Impossible, it's far too friendly to the end user. Counterpoint: it's literally America. If you'd like, you can imagine that all the capitalists are NPCs.
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Agent Smith even says the first Matrix was a paradise but humans couldn't believe life could be so good and rejected it, only if everything was mostly poo poo would they be happy
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Yeah, but he is part of the same alien race that thought using humans as batteries was a brilliant idea, so I don't think we should take his word as gospel.
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The matrix is about being gay on the computer and an inspiration to us all
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Fame Douglas posted:Yeah, but he is part of the same alien race that thought using humans as batteries was a brilliant idea, so I don't think we should take his word as gospel. it was supposed to be compute then the execs thought audiences wouldnt go for it just like switch was supposed to be different genders in and out of the matrix, this whole thin bein a trans allegory and all, but execs thought audiences wouldnt go for it tldr: execs poo poo. sometimes as avatar of mass market audiences also bein poo poo
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Tiberius Christ posted:Agent Smith even says the first Matrix was a paradise but humans couldn't believe life could be so good and rejected it, only if everything was mostly poo poo would they be happy Smith may have fundamentally not understood human psychology. If you have no lived experience and consult media records to determine what humans would consider paradise you'll probably come up with a beach resort or a loving cruise ship because that's what large numbers of people desire to do on their vacations. What do humans consider bad? Sickness, death, old age, pain, failure, etc. Now imagine being trapped on a cruise ship forever. The NPCs keep the buffet stocked and the rooms clean. Nobody ever gets sick. Nobody ever gets hurt. Nobody has to work, and there is nothing to work for. Nothing to do but laze around the pool one beautiful sunny day after another. Paradise. It's easy to imagine various machine-designed versions paradise that would eventually be hell for the inhabitants. That doesn't mean humans actually need poverty and suffering, just that the machine failed to tune the simulation well.
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The machines must have understood humanity pretty well, so good that they out competed them in capitalism markets and enough knowledge of human brains that thye could create fake realities, although agent smith probably didnt know any of that, he was just some enforcer program that got a little too much power besides being stuck eternally on a simulated cruise ship sounds like a hilarious prequel movie
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Facebook Aunt posted:Smith may have fundamentally not understood human psychology. If you have no lived experience and consult media records to determine what humans would consider paradise you'll probably come up with a beach resort or a loving cruise ship because that's what large numbers of people desire to do on their vacations. What do humans consider bad? Sickness, death, old age, pain, failure, etc. I don't know man, swimming, loving and sucking all day every day don't sound quite so bad? Also does this mean Speed 2 is the prequel movie?
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Orange Devil posted:I don't know man, swimming, loving and sucking all day every day don't sound quite so bad? Oh sure, but for the rest of your life? I had a long stretch of sadbrain induced unemployment and you get real sick of having nothing to do quicker than you'd expect. The solution, of course, is to kill all the humans and switch to nuclear. gently caress em
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Is Norovirus still on board in paradise, to make it the most authentic experience possible?
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tokin opposition posted:Oh sure, but for the rest of your life? I had a long stretch of sadbrain induced unemployment and you get real sick of having nothing to do quicker than you'd expect. I also had quite a stretch of sadbrain as a result of among others unemployment so I know exactly what you are getting at but consider: 1. loving 2. sucking 3. explicitly stated in the scenario that nobody can get hurt or sick, and I'm putting sadbrains down in at least one of those categories 4. swimming is great 5. no stress from being unemployed because oh my god what if I am a huge failure and I'm not contributing anything useful at all and blabla because all those expectations explicitly don't exist 6. presumably even at a resort or cruise ship you would be able to indulge in other hobbies. Like play some board games or role playing games or something, or use the wifi to shitpost 7. loving and sucking but with a different person I don't know, the scenario presented seems to describe the post-scarcity society we ought to be trying to create (but likely never will) in the first place. The whole point of communism to me is to fairly share what we have first and foremost, but then also precisely to try to minimize the amount of work all of us need to do to maintain our shared wealth so as to achieve ever greater amounts of leisure time.
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Neo, what if I told you you could gently caress and suck
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Orange Devil posted:I also had quite a stretch of sadbrain as a result of among others unemployment so I know exactly what you are getting at but consider: This is a really limited view of human happiness and desire as simple hedonism. Humanity suffers under capitalism because our productive and creative potentials are crushed by the needs of exploiters and capital accumulation, entering a 'paradise' which still robs humanity of the ability to engage with the fundamentals of its existence and (crucially) work to change them will inevitably create a similar level of discontent, even if 'suffering' is no longer possible.
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