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Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

gradenko_2000 posted:

well gee Senator if you already know China was involved in a cover-up seems to me like you also already knew where it came from

We will hold China accountable with our new Ebola-MERS-Smallpox agent which will kill a million of us for one dead Chinese

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Does any of the step involve having CCP repay the default railway bond from the Qing Dynasty?

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

gradenko_2000 posted:

well gee Senator if you already know China was involved in a cover-up seems to me like you also already knew where it came from

the senator must be involved in the cover-up, is pointing fingers to avoid being held accountable

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

stephenthinkpad posted:

Does any of the step involve having CCP repay the default railway bond from the Qing Dynasty?

it would own of the prc developed to the point where they could do that no problem

Goast has issued a correction as of 03:17 on Sep 13, 2021

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Apparently those bonds are worth about 1.6 trillion now. Also Taiwan went on record saying that those bonds are the prcs problem lmao

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Xi is shattering alipay.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-break-up-ants-alipay-force-creation-separate-loans-app-ft-2021-09-12/#:~:text=Sept%2012%20

Rumors are China us about to crush the remaining crypto crap within it's borders.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
gently caress that rules

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Mr Hootington posted:

Xi is shattering alipay.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-break-up-ants-alipay-force-creation-separate-loans-app-ft-2021-09-12/#:~:text=Sept%2012%20

Rumors are China us about to crush the remaining crypto crap within it's borders.

omfg china is doing some real awesome poo poo

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Mr Hootington posted:

Rumors are China us about to crush the remaining crypto crap within it's borders.

Chairman xi, please punish the crypto idiots.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Chairman xi, please punish the crypto idiots.

The rumor is all crypto trading or holding may be investigated as money laundering schemes or other such financial crimes.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Agrajag posted:

omfg china is doing some real awesome poo poo
I love this poo poo so much.

Xi do incels next.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Mr Hootington posted:

The rumor is all crypto trading or holding may be investigated as money laundering schemes or other such financial crimes.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Mr Hootington posted:

The rumor is all crypto trading or holding may be investigated as money laundering schemes or other such financial crimes.

time to learn mandarin

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I'll add a little more potential crypto death news. So Evergrande (3rd largest Chinese real estate company) is collapsing and Tether may be waist deep in Evergrade's junk commercial papers. Tether may be completely under the water with all of Tether's commercial paper holdings being Junk Chinese commercial papers. A lot of the Chinese junk commercial papers look like they are collapsing or at least contracting, but I'm not smart or knowledgeable enough to figure all of that out.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
If I'm remembering the trueanon ep correctly, bitcoin as a whole is pretty tied up in tether isn't it

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

paul_soccer12 posted:

If I'm remembering the trueanon ep correctly, bitcoin as a whole is pretty tied up in tether isn't it

Yes. Tether doesn't actually have the majority of what they say they have and what little backing tether has is completely worthless.

I'm not joking when I say they "print" "digital" USD that has zero backing and say it is worth something to dump into bitcoin. They are essentially counterfeiting digital currency.

Each crypto exchange is a ponzi scheme/counterfeiting/money laundering/wire fraud.

Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 03:50 on Sep 13, 2021

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Mr Hootington posted:

The rumor is all crypto trading or holding may be investigated as money laundering schemes or other such financial crimes.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

time to learn mandarin

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

tether or tsla pre-empting a market collapse will be really funny

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Mr Hootington posted:

The rumor is all crypto trading or holding may be investigated as money laundering schemes or other such financial crimes.

does this mean i'll be able to buy a video card in the next year or so for something like msrp?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/GalloVOA/status/1437165572312256525

https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/1437189027015266304

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Stringent posted:

does this mean i'll be able to buy a video card in the next year or so for something like msrp?
that probably isn't gonna happen until intel starts producing cards in their own fabs

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

who do these people believe he's going to blow up

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

surely hes going to blow up something or else why would he be making so many

(whistles inconspicuously while nudging away a giant bag of money that says "whatever random poo poo the pentagon feels like buying this week" on it)

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

tether or tsla pre-empting a market collapse will be really funny

The markets aren't looking so hot already, love to see all these storylines merge again.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
it's so wild because the one target they have that isn't complete tom clancy nonsense to suggest (it's just MOSTLY tom clancy nonsense) is the guys right across their border, they don't need long range missiles for that! Do these people genuinely expect me, an American, to be scared of Korea? Hell I've got friends in Japan who aren't scared of Korea, why should my dumb rear end be????

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Cross-post from doomsday because we just talked a bit about it.
https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1437257089726881794?s=19

Edit: this is another thing that is happening
https://twitter.com/Sino_Market/status/1437227467396112389?s=19

Foreign money is starting to pull out of Hang Seng listed companies. It is unknown how this may affect Shanghai Stock Exchange or Shenzhen Stock Exchange. I'm going back to my normal thread for this type of posting.

Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 04:55 on Sep 13, 2021

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

That tether is backed by nothing other than the full faith and credit of its issuer and fiat-hating crypto dipshits love it without putting 2 and 2 together is the best part

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Decent thread covering niangpao / "sissy men" and the history of the idol culture in China.

It really feels like the Western media has taken a complicated reform of the entertainment industry and has just focused on one word to condemn China over.

https://twitter.com/yaomeomeo/status/1434958348281991168?s=19

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Not So Fast posted:

It really feels like the Western media has taken a complicated reform of the entertainment industry and has just focused on one word to condemn China over.

no way...

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Not So Fast posted:

Decent thread covering niangpao / "sissy men" and the history of the idol culture in China.

It really feels like the Western media has taken a complicated reform of the entertainment industry and has just focused on one word to condemn China over.

good read - thanks for sharing

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Mr Hootington posted:

I'll add a little more potential crypto death news. So Evergrande (3rd largest Chinese real estate company) is collapsing and Tether may be waist deep in Evergrade's junk commercial papers. Tether may be completely under the water with all of Tether's commercial paper holdings being Junk Chinese commercial papers. A lot of the Chinese junk commercial papers look like they are collapsing or at least contracting, but I'm not smart or knowledgeable enough to figure all of that out.

lmao if you actually believe that.

Tether doesn't promise convertibility into anything, why would they be buying anything real to "back" their fake currency.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Not So Fast posted:

Decent thread covering niangpao / "sissy men" and the history of the idol culture in China.

It really feels like the Western media has taken a complicated reform of the entertainment industry and has just focused on one word to condemn China over.

https://twitter.com/yaomeomeo/status/1434958348281991168?s=19
this was an excellent read

considering there's an entire c-drama genre about gay men getting into sword fights there was something about the western media articles that didn't add up to me

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

considering there's an entire c-drama genre about gay men getting into sword fights

I'm surprised we don't hear more about this, sounds anime af

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm surprised we don't hear more about this, sounds anime af

Gonna learn Mandarin and pirate a shitload of their stuff. Looks at owl See you in twenty years.

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.
the gay men who get into sword fights are also wizards

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

this was an excellent read

considering there's an entire c-drama genre about gay men getting into sword fights there was something about the western media articles that didn't add up to me

Are there any where they're actually explicitly gay though?

From my understanding there's tons of sexual tension between the male characters and it's entirely intentional, but they can never clearly show that they're gay because they'll get censored.

As always there's plenty of dumb poo poo from Western media but it's not like homosexual dramas are openly accepted by the powers that be in China. I'm not a mainland Boy's Love expert so would be happy to be wrong here, but that's as I've heard and been told.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

LimburgLimbo posted:

Are there any where they're actually explicitly gay though?

From my understanding there's tons of sexual tension between the male characters and it's entirely intentional, but they can never clearly show that they're gay because they'll get censored.

As always there's plenty of dumb poo poo from Western media but it's not like homosexual dramas are openly accepted by the powers that be in China. I'm not a mainland Boy's Love expert so would be happy to be wrong here, but that's as I've heard and been told.
some of the writers for these things are openly gay men in china, so i can't imagine they'd be all that bent about characters actually being gay if they're allowing those writers into show business

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

some of the writers for these things are openly gay men in china, so i can't imagine they'd be all that bent about characters actually being gay if they're allowing those writers into show business

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/art...ampaign=3135159

Paywalled but:

quote:

China’s ‘boys’ love’ dramas dance around LGBTQ censors

Video and film adaptations of web novels about same-sex couples are being lapped up by women and propelling actors to stardom
Although China decriminalised homosexuality in 1997, same-sex marriage is illegal and taboo trails LGBTQ issues

Two men exchange longing glances, a frisson of sexual tension in an on-screen relationship which must otherwise go unspoken – China’s “boys’ love” phenomenon is gripping video streamers, slipping by censors of LGBTQ themes with their subtlety. The genre rose to prominence in 2018, as adaptations of web novels about same-sex couples, or dangaiju, were increasingly picked up by on-demand services, propelling Chinese actors to stardom. In Word of Honour, a blockbusting adventure from video platform Youku, two handsome martial arts heroes develop a close bond, but refer to each other only as “brothers” as the heavily insinuated romance between protagonists fails to emerge. Although China decriminalised homosexuality in 1997, same-sex marriage is illegal and taboo trails LGBTQ issues. The community is facing renewed pressure, with web content censored and depictions of gay romance in films banned.

Yet “boys’ love” adaptations are booming, screened by streaming giants like Youku and Tencent Video, mostly fuelled by demand from straight women and their growing interest in a more delicate form of masculinity. Tickets for a Word of Honour themed concert in Suzhou sold out in seconds earlier this month, as hundreds of thousands rushed for a spot. The series quickly racked up millions of views after it was released in February, while Tencent Video reportedly made 156 million yuan (US$24.5 million) from advance viewings of a similar show. For video platforms in China’s boisterous, hyper-competitive streaming sphere, changing social mores means one thing: money. “In pop culture, creators look to subcultures for new stories or original material,” said Liaoning University lecturer Bai Meijiadai, an expert in fan culture. “The rise of ‘boys’ love’ content suggests the on-screen industry is aware of young women’s consumption power.”

The red pen of the state may have supported the video phenomenon. Authorities have cracked down on “illegal” writing on the web, censoring content deemed too risqué for Chinese readers. In 2018 a novelist was sentenced to 10 years in prison for writing and selling books deemed to be pornographic. “Sexual content in [same-sex] web novels has reduced since authorities embarked on cyberspace clean-ups and platforms introduced review and report mechanisms,” Bai said. This makes their storylines – many of grand, period adventures flecked with martial arts – easier to adapt for television, with more sexually explicit content removed, she said.

About 60 television adaptations are now under way. But the genre attracts mixed reviews among China’s queer communities. “They break the mould of heterosexual relationships being the norm on screen,” said a gay civil society worker who wanted to be known only as Shuai. “But they do not reflect the LGBT community’s struggles and difficulties.” Also, once lead actors attained fame, they avoided suggestions of gay identity to maintain their popularity, doing little to counter the airbrushing out of LGBTQ lives, he said.

The television adaptations mainly appeal to women. An e-commerce worker surnamed Xu said “boys’ love” allowed her a precious escape, unlike many other television shows in China that serve up a barrage of stereotypes in their depictions of women’s gender roles. “It allows me to think about fewer things and relax,” the 29-year-old said. Handsome boyish young men, including those from the television serials, have also become a preferred fantasy love interest. “That’s been influenced by boy band success from South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, since even the 1980s,” said Derek Hird, a senior lecturer in Chinese Studies at Lancaster University in northwest England. To surf the wave of popularity more people – mostly amateur scribes – are writing “boys’ love” stories for web in the hope they may be adapted for television. While authors are mostly part-timers who write for spare cash, “popular writers can earn more than 10,000 yuan a month via subscriptions and rewards from readers”, said a fiction editor who gave her name only as Chu. Up to 40 million yuan was paid for rights to a novel in the genre, official periodical Banyuetan said.

Experts say the genre could prove useful to China’s soft power ambitions. The country so far lacks a breakout entertainment product matching the global popularity of South Korea’s entertainment industry or Japan’s anime and manga. Hird said martial arts and period dramas were “really marketable aspects for China”. But there was tension between explorations on gender and the “fear of a masculinity crisis”, he said. In January, China’s education ministry pledged to improve physical education and “pay more attention to cultivating” masculinity. For now, the “boys’ love” industry has steered clear of regulators through subtle portrayals of same-sex moments or “normalising” shows’ endings. “For example, you may have deviations in your teenage years, but once you grow up, you still go back to reproductive ‘normalcy’,” Bai said.

It's not illegal to be gay in China, but seems like the censors have taken a stance on not wanting it to be normalized in media; basically seems they can't really show stuff that's clearly gay and even when they push the envelope a bit they couch it with "haha later in life he returned to BEING NORMAL and had a wife and kid!!!" in order to appease the censors.

Dunno the source of those of those quotes like "In January, China’s education ministry pledged to improve physical education and “pay more attention to cultivating” masculinity." etc. so not trying to make a broader point about the Chinese govt pushing "masculinity" and it may be specious (like that twitter thread suggests) but I've never seen anything to suggest that China's media censors are cool with normalizing open homosexuality, and people are forced to dance around it it seems., even when it's a hugely popular genre, and the smaller guys who are writing explicit stuff seem to be getting threatened with actual criminal charges.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Seems standard fascist regime playbook, toxic masculinity is very much part of that.

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


tamen de gushi will never get to be published because government censors want the author to remove all the gay bits

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