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Dr. Killjoy posted:have the federal government seize the Star Trek IP and then fund a few dozen simultaneously running series produced in various states every state submits their own series with local actors as the american eurovision
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Do you want to live in The Night Land? Because this is how you get The Night Land. What story are you thinking of that calls their place "the night land." i say swears online posted:every state submits their own series with local actors as the american eurovision states wouldn't be fair. The big states like Cali, Texas, New york, Florida would win. And no I don't want to see the geographically lucky rich kid stories that come out of wyoming, Montana, Either Dakotas and any southern state story that isn't from Atlanta.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:What story are you thinking of that calls their place "the night land." i would watch the mississippi star trek
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i say swears online posted:i would watch the mississippi star trek I would watch a southern star trek, it would be interesting to watch which state gets to be main guy, and which ones gets to be the emotion guy, the logic guy, the teleporter guy, and the lady guy. edit: and who would be the kingon guy that gets knocked out. Edit: minus Atlanta. like all the southern states are roughly equal in population, It would be interesting to see those states compete against each other. edit: i just want fairness. States lack fairness. mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 03:27 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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i like lower decks probably because i dont know much about star trek so its just a space military workplace sitcom to me
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Bro Dad posted:i like lower decks probably because i dont know much about star trek so its just a space military workplace sitcom to me That’s a good sign they’re executing it properly, because the show is *extremely* heavy on references to past iterations of Star Trek, some of which are deep cuts (and also hasn’t shied away from doing full-on meta-commentary at points).
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enterprise was the southern star trek
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:What story are you thinking of that calls their place "the night land." The Night Land, by William Hope Hodgson
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i just want a star trek thats about the federation reconstruction (both politically & physically) of the dominion after the war the integration of a giant population of brainwashed warrior slaves into a political context with no overt conflict? nah sounds boring the exploration of an entire quadrant of sentient races accustomed to living under an imperial thumb with no truly accurate information about the races now pursuing diplomatic relations? way too much talking drama surrounding the technological gap created by the return of federation starship with future technology so powerful it single handedly destroyed the borg? yawn a probing of the ontological implications of a hologram from that same starship apparently developing sentience? too many big words a story we completely pulled out of our assholes about how some wacky scientist crossbred data with humans and built an army of cyborg slaves? oh yeah now thats the innovation star trek needs for this new era
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Is there a single person in charge of Star Trek or is this all being done by some corporate committee at Paramount? I haven't seen anything palatable from Trek since the first Abrams reboot movie and even that wasn't brilliant.
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i just want a star trek thats about the federation reconstruction (both politically & physically) of the dominion after the war The Federation didn't control the Dominion after the war though. They had a single Founder under custody, but it was basically a Status Quo Ante Bellum. The Dominion pissed off back to their side of the wormhole and presumably took all their Jem'Hadar with them. The Federation was already rebuilding Cardassia before the war anyway because of the Klingons, so really you're just back to where everything was around season 5. I suppose with Cardassia in such bad shape you could make a thing about how the victorious Alpha Quadrant powers start bickering among themselves over carving it up. Klingons say Cardassian Planet A is historical Klingon sacred ground, Romulans seize resource rich Cardassian Planet B as "payment" for their contribution in the war. The Federation wants to keep Cardassian Planet C independent of any major power because it lies on the crossroads of the three victors. Some Ferengi Corporation tries to go all "British East India Company" and exploits Cardassian Planet D.
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Jetto Jagga posted:The Night Land, by William Hope Hodgson Ahhh, thank you.
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there a single person in charge of Star Trek or is this all being done by some corporate committee at Paramount? I haven't seen anything palatable from Trek since the first Abrams reboot movie and even that wasn't brilliant. i don't think there's anyone specifically. for a while it was whoever was executive producers of the shows, and that was a couple of guys after gene rodenberry died. each show up to voyager (I think) had its own technical manual that kind of set the rules although every show just broke them for the plot as needed, and lots of things were left wide open. now it's just whatever the showrunner wants. It's pretty clear that no one wants to write with the constraints of past canon given how much of the new shows deal with time travel, alternate timelines, and anything to avoid having to work with what the previous shows had done.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:I would watch a southern star trek, Civil War Confederate DS9: Sisko : James Longstreet Worf: John Bell Hood O'Brien: John Imboden Oh wait gently caress this exercise gently caress the Confederacy they were all a bunch of traitors and I don't want to compare anyone from my fake show that never happened to the bad real world that actually happened
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I didn't think Star Trek Discovery was "garbage" or exceptionally bad. The worst I will say is that I couldn't give a drat about what happened in the Mirror Universe that the third season took an extended detour into just for one character, but otherwise "rebuilding the Federation one piece at a time when you barely have warp travel and you don't have the kind of largesse that Earth+Vulcan did striking out the first time" was an interesting thread to pull on. I'm looking forward to Strange New Worlds. ___ Also the "Hawkeye" trailer came out and WOW now that one I can tell is going to be crap.
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The What We Left Behind Season 8 proposal of remnant Jem'Hadar converting to the Bajoran religion after the prophets demonstrated themselves to be overwhelmingly more powerful than the shapeshifters by zapping their fleet away is a fascinating idea https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/What_We_Left_Behind
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Hawkeye may be the first Marvel movie or TV property that's harder to get into because of continuity then the comics it's sort of adapting.
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Sep 14, 2021 06:49
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Alex Kurtzman is currently considered the "universe showrunner" for Star Trek and they just extended his contract through 2026
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:kira being a vedek is dumb Kira is basically the St Paul of the Bajoran religion, literally right-hand-woman to the Emissary and all.
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Massively increasing the volume to bring the quality up is some real executive  Face it; only a fraction of star trek has ever been good. Like maybe a 3rd, tops
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Blood Boils posted:Massively increasing the volume to bring the quality up is some real executive That's not nearly as biting a criticism you think it is. Any franchise that runs beyond a certain length and starts being run more and more by corporate boardrooms instead of the original creators starts putting out stuff that isn't made under the same mental state as the original stuff and just doesn't "get it". That good third of trek isn't just a random third sprinkled across the franchise, It's the first third. It's like how there's currently way more bad Simpsons than good, but not because it was always bad.
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Blood Boils posted:Massively increasing the volume to bring the quality up is some real executive Modern Trek is written by people who have rose-colored glasses about classic Trek, thinking it's all deep and meaningful then that's like 25% of the classic shows and the other 75% is stupid shenanigans.
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Modern Trek is written by people who have rose-colored glasses about classic Trek, thinking it's all deep and meaningful then that's like 25% of the classic shows and the other 75% is stupid shenanigans. One of the worst things that can ever happen to something is to be put on a pedestal as Deep and Meaningful, meaning no one is allowed to have fun with it anymore.
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Some of the greatest Trek episodes are just the crew dealing with random crap like it’s another wacky day at the office. Like that time Starfleet got taken over by worms, or that time Worf was trapped in a Wild West movie where every character is played by Data, or that time with Shaka, when the walls fell.
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The one where they get trapped in a casino simulation freaked little me THE gently caress out.
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can't wait to find out more about the hawkeye movie on my Jeremy renner app, by jeremy renner
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didn't he do something bad
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i just want a star trek thats about the federation reconstruction (both politically & physically) of the dominion after the war They honestly should have done this instead of picard. The plot could have easily been something like "the prophets send sisko out into the gamma quadrant on another emmisary mission".
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the main problem with doing anything ds9 related, aside from the fact that the paramount brain trust hates it for not making as much money as voyager, is that avery brooks retired from acting and is now a full time professor, and presumably spends most of his time outside of class playing the piano and getting as high as a lord
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so its very convenient he ended the series having been almost totally written out of the setting the real issue is that the people running the show consider next generation their unimpeachable ideal of what star trek should be never mind the fact that aesthetically next generation had lots of stinkers structurally nearly all of the stories were totally self contained and stylistically were farther away from next generation now than next generation was from the original series absolutely no one back then viewed the original series anywhere near as romantically as the showrunners today see next generation except possibly gene roddenberry and its not a coincidence that next generation improved dramatically as his involvement with it decreased
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gradenko_2000 posted:I didn't think Star Trek Discovery was "garbage" or exceptionally bad. The worst I will say is that I couldn't give a drat about what happened in the Mirror Universe that the third season took an extended detour into just for one character, but otherwise "rebuilding the Federation one piece at a time when you barely have warp travel and you don't have the kind of largesse that Earth+Vulcan did striking out the first time" was an interesting thread to pull on. I felt the first season was well-plotted. It wasn't good star trek, but I was able to appreciate it on its own merits. The entire season felt very carefully planned-out, and it's the only show I've seen that managed to pull off not one, not two, but three different season finales, each of which was satisfying in its own regard. The show lost me hard with the second season, which just didn't seem to have the same care put into its writing. Haven't bothered with anything Discovery-related after the midway point in season 2.
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Part of the problem for me with new trek is there's zero charm, the special effects budget is too large and it feels like a totally different franchise like Star Wars or Avatar. I guess I understand vaseline on the lens and cardboard sets and props wouldn't be received well in 2021 but transparent screens and sharp busy displays just look strange in star trek, and all the dang JJ lens flare!!! I do dig the klingon design in discovery independant of everything else
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quote:[O]ne of the things I find odd about fandoms is that there's a sort of reflexive, formulaic 'fannishness' that attaches to new things.
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Star Trek sucks except for a few of the movies
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stargate is superior to star trek simply because the stargate is a much better story device than a transporter
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oh my god norm macdonald died
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