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https://twitter.com/MikeKofiA/status/1437669548061249541?s=19
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Sep 14, 2021 16:21
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This is the kid-gloves version they do to you if you're an American citizen and you're careful about your physical security. Either of those aren't true and you just end up dead.
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Sep 14, 2021 19:16
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1437616310838562824?s=20
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Sep 14, 2021 19:57
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The Moto Z series had a Polaroid ZInk printer you just attached to the back of the phone with magnets and the accessory port. It's a lot of fun for parties because you can print instant photos with sticker backs instead of just uploading to social media. I still have the phone and printer plus a bunch of cheap packs of the stickers, if you bought off-brand they came out to 25 cents a picture. I also still have a couple of actual Polaroid cameras and occasionally buy Impossible Project film because it's fun and I enjoy the nostalgia. That Mattis quote is just the unsanitized version of the "War is hell, but we have to do it" ones they show on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare loading screens.
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Sep 14, 2021 20:21
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This could be the premise for a great movie done right Not as good as my brownmoses/partisangirl cia/mukhabarat handler proxy war proxy romance movie idea, but still
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Sep 14, 2021 20:47
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anybody got some context that makes this make any sense at all
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Sep 14, 2021 20:57
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eSports Chaebol posted:This could be the premise for a great movie done right Oh God. I didn't even think of the meet-cute aspect of this.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:04
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This is definitely more intimate, but the concept isn't new. I remember stories of Vietnam snipers talking about watching a target for hours or days then when they got the order letting the guy finish lunch or something before shooting. Similar vibes here. Just makes everything more stupid.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:11
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The Bloop posted:anybody got some context that makes this make any sense at all https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger
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Sep 14, 2021 21:13
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or like everything with the deserter in Disco Elysium
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Sep 14, 2021 21:13
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The Bloop posted:anybody got some context that makes this make any sense at all It's really messy and there's some conflicting reports but as far as I can tell, https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/steven-donziger-chevron/ has full details but tldr: Steven Donzinger helped Ecuadorians successfully sue Chevron for dumping billions of gallons of oil-exposed water across their homelands, so Chevron paid off a corrupt judge to whip up some bullshit charges (bribery, fraud, withholding evidence) and here we are.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:23
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The Bloop posted:anybody got some context that makes this make any sense at all For context, Donziger won a $9 billion lawsuit against Chevron for their human rights violations in Ecuasor. He was accused of fraud based on the testimony of judge Alberto Guerra, who is being paid $12,000 per month by Chevron for protection. SDNY declined to prosecute, so Donziger was privately prosecuted by Seward & Kissel, a law firm hired by Chevron in 2018.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:27
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So a private law firm ran a criminal prosecution? That's what I didn't understand. What the absolute poo poo
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Sep 14, 2021 21:31
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The Bloop posted:So a private law firm ran a criminal prosecution? yeah how does that even work. private citizens can't just file criminal charges against each other this isn't ancient rome
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Sep 14, 2021 22:28
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Rutibex posted:yeah how does that even work. private citizens can't just file criminal charges against each other this isn't ancient rome Have you considered being a massive fossil fuel corporation?
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Sep 14, 2021 22:30
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The Bloop posted:So a private law firm ran a criminal prosecution? bag em and tag em posted:Have you considered being a massive fossil fuel corporation? The judge was chevron affiliated too iirc.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:50
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He's being accused of racketeering, and part of that he was asked ot hand over a lot of personal stuff for discovery. He appealed that decision and refused to hand over the personal stuff while the appeal was runnign for obvious reasons. As a result, the judge in charge of that case, started contempt proceedings against him. Normally that's supposed to go into the NY courts docket queue to be picked up by a random judge, but he piped it directly to another chevron-affiliated judge to run. That judge refused to allow him a jury. He's been detained under house arrest for 3 years awaiting trial for a contempt charge that carries a maximum sentence of 6 months.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:53
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30.5 Days posted:He's being accused of racketeering, and part of that he was asked ot hand over a lot of personal stuff for discovery. He appealed that decision and refused to hand over the personal stuff while the appeal was runnign for obvious reasons. As a result, the judge in charge of that case, started contempt proceedings against him. Normally that's supposed to go into the NY courts docket queue to be picked up by a random judge, but he piped it directly to another chevron-affiliated judge to run. That judge refused to allow him a jury. He's been detained under house arrest for 3 years awaiting trial for a contempt charge that carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. That sucks poo poo but at least it makes sense in a "I can see how this can technically happen" kind of way
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Sep 14, 2021 22:58
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Rutibex posted:yeah how does that even work. private citizens can't just file criminal charges against each other this isn't ancient rome private prosecution is still on the books in a few states and Canadian provinces I think but it’s basically never used e: note that private citizens filing indictments that get approved, and judges appointing private prosecutors when the DA says no thanks are both separate extremely rare things that probably haven’t both happened together in a common law jurisdiction in like a century ee: oh yeah it’s only the latter here oops eSports Chaebol has issued a correction as of 23:04 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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Sep 14, 2021 23:01
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Rutibex posted:yeah how does that even work. private citizens can't just file criminal charges against each other this isn't ancient rome the judge apparently has the power to order a private firm to be hired to prosecute a case. who knew
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Sep 14, 2021 23:01
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The Bloop posted:anybody got some context that makes this make any sense at all Chevron accused the plaintiff's attorney of bribing an Ecuadorian judge and in order to substantiate their allegations they paid to help immigrate a judge who was allegedly part of the scheme into the United States and paid him $12,000/month to aid their case. So basically they legally bribed a judge to say that he'd been illegally bribed. Also that judge later admitted he lied about a ton of stuff. It's the sort of story that will elicit the usual "doesn't look like anything to me" response from liberals who strongly believe that American law protects the rights of all citizens. Vox Nihili has issued a correction as of 23:21 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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Sep 14, 2021 23:17
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30.5 Days posted:He's being accused of racketeering, and part of that he was asked ot hand over a lot of personal stuff for discovery. He appealed that decision and refused to hand over the personal stuff while the appeal was runnign for obvious reasons. As a result, the judge in charge of that case, started contempt proceedings against him. Normally that's supposed to go into the NY courts docket queue to be picked up by a random judge, but he piped it directly to another chevron-affiliated judge to run. That judge refused to allow him a jury. He's been detained under house arrest for 3 years awaiting trial for a contempt charge that carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. maybe he should have just handed over the personal stuff then  (such as his laptop (which had personal information about his clients, particularly the ones that he had worked with for the initial settlement (which would have been a break of attorney-client confidentiality(which could have led to him losing his license and possibly getting sued himself(which is a major reason why he refused to hand it over in the first place)))))
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Sep 14, 2021 23:37
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Dreylad posted:the judge apparently has the power to order a private firm to be hired to prosecute a case. who knew they almost certainly picked a judge they knew would.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:25
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Bar Ran Dun posted:they almost certainly picked a judge they knew would. quote:According to The Intercept, Kaplan has written favorably about Chevron and "bypassed the standard random assignment process and handpicked someone he knew well, U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska, to oversee the case being prosecuted by the firm he chose." There's nothing almost about this
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Sep 15, 2021 00:41
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CodfishCartographer posted:maybe he should have just handed over the personal stuff then Hand over a brand new laptop from walmart.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:45
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Hand over a brand new laptop from walmart. Contempt of Court Go directly to JAIL. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:52
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yeah the whole case is so rigged and the law supports it. that guy is hosed
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Sep 15, 2021 00:56
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Dreylad posted:yeah the whole case is so rigged and the law supports it. that guy is hosed The law doesn’t even support it but they managed to put him in a purgatory where the only people in charge of ensuring the law is followed are the hand picked stooges (who are in turn the sole arbiters of whether or not they are hand picked stooges). America has a hard on for independence of the judiciary because being “non-political” means they side with capital even if somehow leftist politicians get elected. but it also means a show trial like this is even more of an obvious sham than poo poo like locking up Navalny
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Sep 15, 2021 01:00
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CodfishCartographer posted:maybe he should have just handed over the personal stuff then complying with a court order wouldn't have led to him losing his license, but it would have led to everyone who played any role in the ecuadoran case being tracked down and murdered by chevron The Oldest Man posted:This is the kid-gloves version they do to you if you're an American citizen and you're careful about your physical security. Either of those aren't true and you just end up dead.
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Sep 15, 2021 01:02
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CodfishCartographer posted:maybe he should have just handed over the personal stuff then and i'm sure his clients would have been assassinated too
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Sep 15, 2021 04:19
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eSports Chaebol posted:The law doesn’t even support it but they managed to put him in a purgatory where the only people in charge of ensuring the law is followed are the hand picked stooges (who are in turn the sole arbiters of whether or not they are hand picked stooges). America has a hard on for independence of the judiciary because being “non-political” means they side with capital even if somehow leftist politicians get elected. but it also means a show trial like this is even more of an obvious sham than poo poo like locking up Navalny he should just take bolt cutters to the ankle bracelet and go to jail for 6 months
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Sep 15, 2021 04:21
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Rutibex posted:he should just take bolt cutters to the ankle bracelet and go to jail for 6 months They'll pack on a ton of extra charges, deem him a flight risk and put him in jail indefinitely in place of house arrest, seize all his assets, etc. Or just kill him in prison. There's no "one weird trick" to make this better.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:30
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The Oldest Man posted:There's no "one weird trick" to make this better. There are several available to Biden or Garland.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:53
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eSports Chaebol posted:This could be the premise for a great movie done right they did this poo poo with jack ryan in the first episode right? drone operator just put dollar bills on the wall of kills he won in a bet so I guess it's not really as elaborate so true
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Sep 15, 2021 04:56
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The Oldest Man posted:There's no "one weird trick" to make this better. i'd flee to canada and ditch my identity. unless capitalism ends or something i dont think that oil company is going to leave him alone for the rest of his life
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Sep 15, 2021 05:01
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Rutibex posted:i'd flee to canada and ditch my identity. unless capitalism ends or something i dont think that oil company is going to leave him alone for the rest of his life Lol, they won't. But if you run and ditch your american identity, they can just kill you. Plus the guy has a family. They'll be totally hosed if their dad runs for it.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:12
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hobbesmaster posted:There are several available to Biden or Garland. Dnd is that way friend 👍
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Sep 15, 2021 08:49
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Dreylad posted:yeah the whole case is so rigged and the law supports it. that guy is hosed Sad enough to drive a man to suicide.
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Sep 15, 2021 09:05
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The Oldest Man posted:Lol, they won't. But if you run and ditch your american identity, they can just kill you. well uhh look on the bright side? the last 18 months of house arrest has probably been good for avoiding covid!
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Sep 15, 2021 11:27
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Sep 15, 2021 11:59
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