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Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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exmarx posted:

right, so bombing 20% of a country's population to death is 'genocide' now? tankies :rolleyes:

But if we never droned those brown people at weddings their future Osama 2.0 kids would kill us later

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Macau Casinos See $18 Billion Wipeout as China Tightens Grip

This news should make bigger news IMO.

During height of the trade war I heard a think tank mentioned this was going to be one of the countering policy against the US (capitalists).

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Mao went and had bankers/landlords dragged out and executed

Xi is just going to keep tightening the screws till speculative investors jump out of windows themselves.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/shaunrein/status/1438054185249951748

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


https://twitter.com/LassPeaches/status/1437826075581566978

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


the man rocks the look. gotta say the moustache works for him, a rare feat

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Guy walking down the street enjoying the night life, cant be Xinjiang since we all know that its a closed off penal colony.

hot witch divorcee
Jan 4, 2021

is that a tower in your pants or are you just happy to see me

Kill All Cops posted:

isn't their property price control method contributing to the evergrande's financial issues? aside from evergrande doing weird verticals like a football team and electric cars


Red and Black posted:

I mean you could argue that all social institutions from the economy to government are “imaginary bullshit”. Still, if a large firm defaults on 300 billion dollars in debt, that means the owners of the debt will lose 300 billion dollars they assumed they had. It’s not hard to see how this could ripple through the economy and cause a crisis.

Not that I think this will be the the final blow that sinks China or anything

from what i understand, this trashhole company invested in a whole load of stupid poo poo, and is also a hong kong company. it seems very likely if not outright a given that the cpc has their ducks in a row and is in position to handle any actual problems that domestic companies face from it imploding, while getting rid of one of the worst thorns in their side that is doing stupid poo poo like ballooning to 300 billion dollars in toxic assets.

socialized losses that all of us have to pay for when things like subprime mortgages go tits up via massive job losses and wage cuts and tax money going to fund the bankroll so these bourgeois losers always get another day at the casino as their birthright being used to justify further austerity is a capitalist thing. if china does any kind of bailout, it will be for whomever got hosed in honest dealing, and helping people who lose jobs over this; it's going to make the US response to 2008 look like (even more of) a loving joke

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

quote:

Behind the scenes: In mid-October 2020, top Pentagon officials grew concerned about intelligence they'd seen. It showed the Chinese were consuming their own intelligence that had made them concerned about the possibility of a surprise U.S. strike against China, three sources familiar with the situation tell Axios.

One of the sources said: "I think they [the Chinese] were getting bad intelligence... a combination of 'wag the dog' conspiracy thinking and bad intel from bad sources."
Then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper worried the Chinese were misreading the situation and that their misperception could lead to a conflict nobody wanted.

Esper directed his policy office to issue a backchannel message to the Chinese to reassure them the U.S. had no intention of seeking a military confrontation. The message: Don't over-read what you're seeing in Washington; we have no intention to attack; and let's keep lines of communication open.

These backchannel communications were handled a couple of levels below Esper, one of the sources said. U.S. officials involved thought the Chinese received the initial message well. Milley followed up later in the month with a call to his Chinese counterpart to reiterate the message, two of the sources confirmed.

It's unclear whether anyone at the Pentagon told President Trump or the White House what they were doing.
https://www.axios.com/mark-milley-woodward-trump-crisis-bb8a80b1-3e3a-492b-934a-99825cc6ef7f.html

So according to Axios, in October of last year, the Pentagon was repeatedly sending messages to Chinese officials to clarify there wouldn't be a war.

Was their international concern about that? From what I remember there was some fear Trump might target Iran.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

From October all I remember is stuff like https://twitter.com/jkbloodtreasure/status/1316846611327262722?s=21

Gorman Thomas
Jul 24, 2007
Lol at the US gov being confused as to why a country that is surrounded by US military bases, gets blamed for a worldwide pandemic in the media, and is accused of committing a genocide, might get a lil paranoid around a tight election cycle.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
dictatorship of the postertariat

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1008507/chinas-mass-line-moves-online

Policy implementation, economic modernization, and social conflict management remain the pillars of Chinese governance, but we shouldn’t overlook the Communist Party’s commitment to the “mass line” — which emphasizes maintaining close ties with the Chinese people — as a motivation for this shift. In addition to making it easier to file paperwork or process permits online, government bodies have invested in sites and platforms for canvassing public opinion and incorporating it into the policymaking process. The State Council — China’s equivalent to a Cabinet — has endorsed collecting online opinions and feedback as a low-cost, high-efficiency way to improve governance capacity, redress complaints, and conduct oversight of official misconduct.

This embrace of online platforms to bridge the gap between the party and the public can be traced back to the early 2000s, when most governmental agencies, from the prefectural to the national level, began establishing online platforms to provide public service announcements, publish important information, and respond to public requests. The trend picked up after 2008, when then-President Hu Jintao called for more proactive measures for consulting and responding to public opinion. Many local governments soon either established a website for public feedback or set up a column on an already existing government-affiliated website where residents could post their complaints, requests, and suggestions.

By 2010, reviewing online expressions of public opinion had become commonplace for party officials at all levels ahead of major policy decisions. In the past five years, however, monitoring and responding to public requests and opinions has become increasingly important, even for mundane matters. A notice sent by the State Council in 2016 made it clear that timely responses to public comments and suggestions would be considered an indicator of a local government’s capability to govern. In addition to mandating inspections and trainings on how to respond to public opinion, the State Council also required local officials to pay special attention to issues including any public misperceptions regarding major policies or incidents that could harm the public interest or social stability.

Today, most local governments have a specific office designated to handle online opinions. Often, this office is professional and run by staffers whose job it is to ensure that the requests make it to the relevant department. Because anyone can visit these government platforms and check on the progress of a petition, local governments are under more pressure to respond than in the days of opaque government hotlines. Whereas once, petitioners’ emails would frequently go ignored, higher-ups — and even the public — can now check the time stamps of when a request was submitted, transferred, and answered, leading to a fall in average response time from 100 days in 2011 to fewer than 50 in 2014.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

stephenthinkpad posted:

I am listening to this book now. So far its just a Cuban travelogue novel. It's pretty funny the author repurposed personal travel writing into a "What If" alternate history novel. This kind of genre seem to be pretty popular in the east.

Lemme know how it shakes out

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Mao went and had bankers/landlords dragged out and executed

Xi is just going to keep tightening the screws till speculative investors jump out of windows themselves.

Mao was actually a moderate who was more into class rehabilitation whereas the leadership in Shanghai wanted much more bloodshed before Mao&Zhou became defacto communist leadership iirc

Mao pre 1950s was one of history's slickest people imo. Zhou is a close second, he got Chiang's bodygaurds to capture Chiang and bring him to Zhou and Zhou just said 'stop being an idiot' and let him go. Mao got the emperor to happily give tourists guided tours of the palace.

Most Merciful.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

imagine marching your army to a remote backwater part of your former country that's falling the gently caress apart while being invaded by an insanely murderous Japanese empire and your so-called compatriots are trying to stab you in the back at every turn and taking the time to teach the local people how to read and practice some modern medicine rather than looting them blind

just Alpha poo poo

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Where my Jiang Qing simps at

Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Xi save us from Newsom!

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

Where my Jiang Qing simps at

Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss

I watched a couple episodes of the Adam Curtis thing last week. I don’t know very much about the history of the revolution or the people involved but it seemed like just-so horseshit reproducing some “yoko/courtney was the downfall” to me. Ironic, he can only focus on selves and individuals now…

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
adam curtis is bad

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1438208633377116177?s=20

the anglos are at it again

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Antonymous posted:

Mao was actually a moderate who was more into class rehabilitation whereas the leadership in Shanghai wanted much more bloodshed before Mao&Zhou became defacto communist leadership iirc

Mao pre 1950s was one of history's slickest people imo. Zhou is a close second, he got Chiang's bodygaurds to capture Chiang and bring him to Zhou and Zhou just said 'stop being an idiot' and let him go. Mao got the emperor to happily give tourists guided tours of the palace.

Most Merciful.

were those the same Shanghai anarchists that declared a Shanghai commune/autonomous zone for like one month during the cultural revolution that mao then defused by going “hey that’s pretty cool, why don’t you guys set up a task force to formalize your demands” and caused to immediately turn back into an ML bureaucracy like Obama killing the NBA strike

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Wonder if Canada is invited or just automatically got volunteered by UK or USA.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Aukus

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Australia-US-Canada-UK

AUSCUK

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Go China 🇨🇳

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Are they not gonna trust sk/japan? Or dogs dont get to eat at the table?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

aukus

lmao

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao

How precious~! The Allies of WW2 have morphed into the Axis of WW3!

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


the australian guy looks like he is having a stroke

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Finally we can have a proper cold war

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
so the us's big idea is to grab two nobodies with no influence in the one area they actually need in order to counter china: continental europe

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
australia is really gonna push back on china, regionally

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
So Biden was hyping up the "Democratic Summit" a few months ago which was essential what i call the "Dragon Slaying Expo" trying to organize the G7 countries plus India, Taiwan to do an anti-china rally.

But the Afghanistan evacuation was such a disaster I haven't heard anyone from the Biden admin bring it up. This Aukus thing come out of nowhere I am guessing is a low key substitute of the Democratic Summit.

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Judakel posted:

australia is really gonna push back on china, regionally

they’re gonna do it by getting more racist to Chinese Australians

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

does australia have sub nukes currently or is this a new development?

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

In Training posted:

does australia have sub nukes currently or is this a new development?

Australia doesn't have nuclear weapons though they mine and refine uranium since they have a pretty big supply of it, so they could feasibly make a nuke in like, a couple months.

E: when they say "nuclear submarines" I assume they're talking about nuclear powered subs, and not subs designed to launch icbms

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Grapplejack posted:

Australia doesn't have nuclear weapons though they mine and refine uranium since they have a pretty big supply of it, so they could feasibly make a nuke in like, a couple months.

E: when they say "nuclear submarines" I assume they're talking about nuclear powered subs, and not subs designed to launch icbms

Yes, they're being extremely careful to be very specific that these are nuclear-propulsion subs with conventional weapons.

What on earth role those are meant to fill is unclear, other than "Ohios are getting real long in the tooth, let's make the Aussies pay development on the replacement."

E: Have to say, the decision to pronounce your new alliance's name as "Orcus" is the kind of choice more fitting for '00s robot anime than reality. Yet here we are anyway.

Mandoric has issued a correction as of 22:21 on Sep 15, 2021

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

curious that its western white dudes "taking the lead" and ASEAN are just expected to follow along

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Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Femur posted:

Are they not gonna trust sk/japan? Or dogs dont get to eat at the table?

orientals or them yellows and browns are not sophisticated enough to understand the strategic importance of their betters in this case being the white dudes protecting them

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