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The US plan to win Cold War 2 is to blockade Eurasia. The US knows how to blockade islands, blockading the World-Island should be easy enough.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:27
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The UK already announced they will have two (small) ships permanently station in Asia after that ugly carrier did a trip in SCS. So I don't know what else will they commit other a new name. Australia is whatever.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:29
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reminder that all this anti china pivot poo poo started under obama
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Sep 15, 2021 22:30
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I can't even tell who's cucking who in this relationship.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:30
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How do you say lol in mandarin
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Sep 15, 2021 22:44
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Centrist Committee posted:How do you say lol in mandarin lMao
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Sep 15, 2021 22:49
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This would also explain why uranium prices spiked last week
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Sep 15, 2021 22:57
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Given that the previous submarine project resulted in massive "budget overruns", I think we can expect a similar level of corruption and grift to nullify any attempt to project power against the PRC.
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Sep 15, 2021 23:00
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Agrajag posted:curious that its western white dudes "taking the lead" and ASEAN are just expected to follow along If you have dozens of moderately powerful vassal states and you announce this new thing against your major rival, but you only have two of them grinning into the screen like idiots, is that good? There are more pathetic options though: The Brits threw a tantrum when the Americans left Afghanistan so uncle Joe is buying them a new shiny toy.
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Sep 15, 2021 23:24
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Mandoric posted:Yes, they're being extremely careful to be very specific that these are nuclear-propulsion subs with conventional weapons. In general you use diesel subs for defending coastlines and nuke subs for open ocean warfare. Australia basically wants to be able to sink Chinese ships in Chinese waters in other words.
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Sep 15, 2021 23:32
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aukus
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Sep 16, 2021 00:11
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Raskolnikov38 posted:aunus
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Sep 16, 2021 00:24
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NationalFile/status/1437833397125189632
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Sep 16, 2021 00:33
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Danann posted:In general you use diesel subs for defending coastlines and nuke subs for open ocean warfare. Australia basically wants to be able to sink Chinese ships in Chinese waters in other words. In the abstract, sure. In the practical, what waters are Australian ships going to be in, ESPECIALLY in conflict with China, that aren't in range of home port? And what shooting war with China, in an alliance of nuclear powers, is going to last long enough for extended-range raiders to matter? I don't think there's deep thought, I don't think there's an operational call at all other than leaving Australia in a Japanlike "one refit away from being a nuclear power" state, I think Scomo gets good boy points (and, if I wanted to spin up the hottest new conspiracy theory, a way to force quarantine-free international traffic to WA and crack their resolve) and Biden gets someone to pay for the problem that the US boomer fleet is nearly literally boomer-aged.
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Sep 16, 2021 00:54
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Antonymous posted:imagine marching your army to a remote backwater part of your former country that's falling the gently caress apart while being invaded by an insanely murderous Japanese empire and your so-called compatriots are trying to stab you in the back at every turn and taking the time to teach the local people how to read and practice some modern medicine rather than looting them blind how the cpc ended up gaining control of china is absolutely bonkers and downright foreign to a modern westerner used to the cia meddling in any and all attempts to create even a mild succdem government. march around the entire country (and china, last i checked, is pretty big) like twice and defeat murderous foreign forces? i am still in awe of how they did it. i guess people had a lot more free time before the era of Electronic Posting
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Sep 16, 2021 01:07
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"No fair only we can do that!" - 
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Sep 16, 2021 01:17
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1438208633377116177?s=20 when news of the meeting/announcement was swirling with rumors my guess in the COVID thread was: gradenko_2000 posted:it's gonna be SEATO 2 ... lol!
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Sep 16, 2021 02:12
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I prefer Three Eyes.
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Sep 16, 2021 02:19
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Femur posted:Are they not gonna trust sk/japan? Or dogs dont get to eat at the table?
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Sep 16, 2021 02:27
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we can't even build loving ships right or fast enough anymore lmao
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Sep 16, 2021 02:36
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Femur posted:Are they not gonna trust sk/japan? Or dogs dont get to eat at the table? assuming they actually thought this through in any depth, the reason why you wouldn't include Japan in any kind of trans-Pacific military alliance is that everybody else has had a bad history with Japan and wouldn't want to be involved with them or be seen as supporting their remilitarization. It's a big reason for why existing treaties/agreements are all technically separate between any one Asian nation, and then the US, but not all these nations taken together hell, even Australia has had a run-in with Japan
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Sep 16, 2021 02:38
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1438208633377116177?s=20 I hope chairman xi destroys the short bus.
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Sep 16, 2021 02:39
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Just a full-blown demon cracker axis y'all, I'm sure it'll be fine, right?
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Sep 16, 2021 03:06
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1438208633377116177?s=20 Bring the mother loving AUKUS
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Sep 16, 2021 03:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:assuming they actually thought this through in any depth, the reason why you wouldn't include Japan in any kind of trans-Pacific military alliance is that everybody else has had a bad history with Japan and wouldn't want to be involved with them or be seen as supporting their remilitarization. It's a big reason for why existing treaties/agreements are all technically separate between any one Asian nation, and then the US, but not all these nations taken together that's a very western centric and naive read of the situation imo. the correct reasoning is probably something more along the lines that japan and sk would probably have declined membership if offered. they both have a very long history with china and i'm pretty confident that the presiding sentiment in japan at least is that the ongoing western dominance of asia at the expense of china is not in any way a foregone conclusion, and the consequences of picking the wrong team will be far more immediate for japan or sk than they would be for aus, much less the us or the uk.
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Sep 16, 2021 03:53
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Long ago in a distant land, I, AUKUS, the demon cracker master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil. But a foolish PLA soldier wielding a magic gun stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time, and flung him into the future where my evil is law. Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is AUKUS! staticman has issued a correction as of 04:39 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 04:36
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https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1438301285510533123
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Sep 16, 2021 04:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:assuming they actually thought this through in any depth, the reason why you wouldn't include Japan in any kind of trans-Pacific military alliance is that everybody else has had a bad history with Japan and wouldn't want to be involved with them or be seen as supporting their remilitarization. It's a big reason for why existing treaties/agreements are all technically separate between any one Asian nation, and then the US, but not all these nations taken together All the western powers are openly supportive of Japan remilitarizing anyway. The US literally militarized them by selling weapons and giving training lol.
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Sep 16, 2021 04:42
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1438310477923188740?s=19 https://twitter.com/franceintheus/status/1438297090845720577?s=19 The French are displeased. https://twitter.com/GerardAraud/status/1438252971893141515?s=19 The former French Ambassador to the United States puts it more plainly. https://twitter.com/StuartKLau/status/1438269647867031559?s=19 Awkward.
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Sep 16, 2021 04:44
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"re"militarizing
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Sep 16, 2021 04:45
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why is europe getting involved in "indo-pacific strategy". its on the other side of the world
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Sep 16, 2021 04:48
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Nobody trusted Charles de Gaulle, nobody trusts Macron
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Sep 16, 2021 04:50
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Since these subs are being built in Australia and Australia has zero infrastructure or workforce for building or maintaining a nuclear submarine fleet I doubt we'll see the first one in any less than ten years time. The announced consultation process is going to be 18 months.
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Sep 16, 2021 04:53
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mila kunis posted:why is europe getting involved in "indo-pacific strategy". its on the other side of the world the Aussies had already spent some 2 billion on a nuclear sub program in collaboration with the French apparently the AUS gov't has trashed all that after Biden offered US help with nucs
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Sep 16, 2021 05:00
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the subs is just one part of ramping up bullshit against china. don't see this going anywhere good. fuckin america always has to be at war with someone huh
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Sep 16, 2021 05:04
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this is such dumb framing lol. nz decides not to abandon standing policy following alliance by 3 other countries???
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Sep 16, 2021 05:12
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Can't wait to see which anti-lockdown activist gets picked to be New Zealand's Juan Guaido.
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Sep 16, 2021 05:19
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Gorman Thomas posted:I can't even tell who's cucking who in this relationship. Thread title material
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Sep 16, 2021 05:21
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exmarx posted:this is such dumb framing lol. nz decides not to abandon standing policy following alliance by 3 other countries??? nz is part of an alliance with us/uk/aus already, so a lot of idiots get confused when they're somehow asserting their own sovereignty
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Sep 16, 2021 05:43
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Mandoric posted:What on earth role those are meant to fill is unclear, other than "Ohios are getting real long in the tooth, let's make the Aussies pay development on the replacement."
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