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Onean posted:drat good info Quoting this for later because its useful.
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Do profession specializations matter beyond HW? And if so, are there any universal recommendations, like Goldsmith?
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Sep 15, 2021 04:49
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They are almost trivial to switch beyond the 3 times/week limit. There's only really 3 cases where it matters. For the latest patch ⭐️ crafting you pretty much always have an ALC component you want to HQ, an ALC spec essentially saves you a CP drink because of the +15 CP, if you plan your crafting to start with those components first. Secondly, some of the latest glamours and collectables like Primal weapons, minions and music scrolls require spec to craft at all, these recipes all get rolled into the job in later patches though. If this is a consideration BSM is the best for weapons, ALC for music, and WVR tends to go for minions I think (remember you can still switch very easily though). The last consideration is that if you're doing challenge/cheevo expert crafts you want to focus one job at a time and definitely spec before starting the grind both because of the extra stats and because it lets you use delineations.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:20
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Regalingualius posted:Do profession specializations matter beyond HW? And if so, are there any universal recommendations, like Goldsmith? they do, because equipping the specialist "job stone" thing gives you extra crafting stats, which can put you over the threshold for making endgame stuff. which one you pick depends on what stuff you need to make. you can have 3 at a time, and can change for a scrip fee with a lockout of like, 3 changes per week? something like that.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:20
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Basically specialization only truly matters because when new crafted gear is first released it requires being a specialist to try and spread things around instead of one person cornering the marker or everyone trying to make one item and ignoring the rest. This limitation gets removed after a couple of weeks. Everything else is stats which might come into play at certain thresholds or trying to make bleeding-edge stuff, but it's tiny bonuses. Not like you're gonna be a tier better or something.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:39
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Locked recipes is only for a very small subset of items, anyone can do white/green DoW/DoH/DoL gear the day it drops. Even then most other items are still doable on day 1, I don't think anything from map mats have ever been locked for example.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:48
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Algid posted:Locked recipes is only for a very small subset of items, anyone can do white/green DoW/DoH/DoL gear the day it drops. Even then most other items are still doable on day 1, I don't think anything from map mats have ever been locked for example. Thanks for the correction. I only found out about it recently when the new Primal weapons and such dropped so I assumed it was for everything.
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Sep 15, 2021 06:20
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Yeah they stopped putting job unlocks behind expansions, but job quest series which tie to an expansion are still locked to reaching that expansion in the msq. You can't start the whm 60-70 quest series without having started stormblood for example
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Sep 15, 2021 06:55
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Chillgamesh posted:Yeah they're pure income, you can't lose. The lore concession is basically that Godbert eats a loss by ensuring you have a good time because it rakes in suckers like crazy that someone as famous as the WoL goes to his casino  . I had liked to think of the Gold Saucer as an eccentric redistributing wealth in his own way.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:49
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Yeah I just assumed it wasn't a business model as much as a free theme park run by a crazy rich dude.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:51
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Ahh, I shouldn't have really brought that up anyway - story discussion doesn't belong itt. Godbert definitely isn't a sleazy guy, though.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:58
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I mean, he’s constantly running around in public only wearing his boxers
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Sep 15, 2021 17:12
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:I think we're reaching a point where we can start including expansion content in the job quests again because really who's going to be level 70 before starting HW? Even with preferred world bonus that is just absurd. if i had stuck to WAR and kept doing roulettes every day i probably would've been 70 or very close before getting to HW. instead i did way less roulettes and siphoned almost all of that XP when i did do them into RDM SCH/summoner and it never even felt grindy just doing the daily stuff for funsies with my friends
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Sep 15, 2021 17:40
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:I think we're reaching a point where we can start including expansion content in the job quests again because really who's going to be level 70 before starting HW? Even with preferred world bonus that is just absurd. My first character hit level 70 with preferred server bonus about half way through the ARR patch quest. It’s trivially easy if you’re running your duty finder daily’s.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:47
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Godbert is a man of contradictions.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:18
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God help me, I want to Fantasia into a Lalafell named Hundo Mondo. my metamorphosis is complete also, Mogstation question, do licenses get retroactively applied even on PS4? I preordered Endwalker for the earring and the minion (and because I'm a FF4 superfan sucker), but I don't own the Starter Edition. all that junk will get applied to my account as soon as I buy the base game, right? I'm far enough into HW that I might actually dip into that later this month for the inventory space alone
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Sep 15, 2021 19:23
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SuperKlaus posted:
He does intentionally go out of his way to hire refugees and those down on their luck, so you're not entirely wrong. He's just also a Monetarist, though one of the least bad ones.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:36
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catgirlgenius posted:God help me, I want to Fantasia into a Lalafell named Hundo Mondo. my metamorphosis is complete Each platform has separate licensing, which you can see on the Mogstation. The way they do expansion codes is as follows: If you pre-order, you get a pre-order key right away for the bonuses, which will also let you access EW content during early access. Once EW officially launches (or if you buy it right then with no pre-order) you get a permanent key for that platform. That key does the retroactive license bit for previous expansions. They give the pre-order keys like a 1-2 week grace period to be applied in case there's delays in mailing those out to folks. Now in your case, if you're trying to just get EW on a platform with no starter edition or previous license applied I'm not sure how that might work. You might have to simply get the complete edition on that secondary platform when that's updated to include Endwalker. In my case, I have a ARR (and HW) license on my PS4/5 and I'm up to date on the PC. I pre-ordered EW on PC already. When the expansion goes live I'll probably get EW from Sony as well to catch myself up on the console side as well - but since I'd gotten ARR in the past I just need the expansion, not the whole game there.
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Onean posted:He does intentionally go out of his way to hire refugees and those down on their luck, so you're not entirely wrong. He's just also a Monetarist, though one of the least bad ones.  for even the fictional rich then
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Sep 15, 2021 19:50
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Tortolia posted:Each platform has separate licensing, which you can see on the Mogstation. Hmm I'll probably just have to see if I get my pre-order bonuses when I buy the starter edition in a week or two, then. I'm betting I will, PSN and Mogstation can't both be so pointlessly arcane that it would incidentally screw over people in an edge case, right  Thanks! I'll be the guinea pig for the other newbies in this thread, if no one else has had this experience by then.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:55
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re the Lore Implications of the Golden Saucer, I think its worth keeping in mind that you are only allowed to buy MGP if you are below 500, which caps at a couple thousand gold, and its borderline impossible to ever lose enough MGP to drop back below that level once you're past like, 800. Even if you buy expensive prizes as long as you play enough extra games to keep a nestegg after the exchange you should never have to spend gil on MGP more than the first time. I assumed after I went there the first time and observed the game function's that the place's lore business model is the normal Theme Park model of Concessions And Merch, since the place has multiple bars, restaurants and shops.
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SuperKlaus posted:
The sentiment is pure but the blade would shatter on impact.
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Sanguinia posted:re the Lore Implications of the Golden Saucer, I think its worth keeping in mind that you are only allowed to buy MGP if you are below 500, which caps at a couple thousand gold, and its borderline impossible to ever lose enough MGP to drop back below that level once you're past like, 800. Even if you buy expensive prizes as long as you play enough extra games to keep a nestegg after the exchange you should never have to spend gil on MGP more than the first time. I assume that the WoL is treated as the high roller the Golden Saucer willingly takes a loss on because a high-profile successful person serves as a lure to bring in other people to get fleeced. It's a known phenomenon in real life casinos. People wouldn't go to casinos if they thought they'd lose. But if the WoL can make it big, surely they can!
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Sep 16, 2021 01:53
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Sanguinia posted:I assumed after I went there the first time and observed the game function's that the place's lore business model is the normal Theme Park model of Concessions And Merch, since the place has multiple bars, restaurants and shops. This is my assumption too. They make all their money on overpriced food and drink that you just don't engage with because you're too busy trying to win enough Chuck E Cheese tokens for a gigantic rideable mascot
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e: wait, this isn't the thread for shitposting, mb
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What’s the most efficient way to get Yellow Crafter’s Scrips for HW? Just hit the 60 quest on my weaver, and I’m assuming every crafter is going to need to buy the master recipe books too.
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Regalingualius posted:What’s the most efficient way to get Yellow Crafter’s Scrips for HW? Just hit the 60 quest on my weaver, and I’m assuming every crafter is going to need to buy the master recipe books too. Go to the Hard Place in Idyllshire (which you should get access to in late HW MSQ), talk to Zhloe, and start doing crafter custom deliveries. If you don't have Idyllshire access yet, see if there are collectable recipes using materials you can get cheap, and make those to turn in to the collectable appraisers in the major cities. (Rarefied Marron Glace worked for me -- it has two base ingredients you can get from Botany gathering in HW zones, plus one that the Tradecraft guy in Ul'Dah sells cheap. That's a CUL recipe, though, and I'm not sure if Weaver has any great options.) Antivehicular fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 04:07
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Outside of your weekly custom deliveries (12 per week limit, with 6 per week limit on each NPC) I wouldn't bother until you reach 80 and can easily grind scrip on ALC or CUL. There are level appropriately collectables, but the exp is worth mode than the scrip imo given the material cost. Custom deliveries are basically super-collectables unlocked at certain NPCs, they're also story gated and I think Zhloe is the only one at 60. The materials for crafting are bought from a nearby NPC vendor, gathering is just another collectable only nodenode in the overworld.
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Sep 16, 2021 04:14
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Is the non-collectible version of Tektite not used for anything at all?
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If something is a crafting material it will be mentioned in the item description. Some items used to fill both roles but they recently got split apart so collectable items are either unique or have "rarefied" attached at the beginning. Collectables are either normal turn ins to appraiser NPCs around the world, custom delivery turn ins, or aetherial reduction items. If you turn a collectable into a non-collectable now the only point is to vendor it for like 2 gil or whatever.
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Finally I am in the home stretch, doing patch 2.55 over the next few days then I can finally check out the jobs I'm interested in! Super excited to try RDM, GNB, DRK and the rest. White Mage was fast to level thanks instant queues for roulettes. I also racked up over 200 player commendations already, even for instances where I objectively caused a wipe. I really feel bad for DPS players, it seems like people just automatically commend the healer/tank.
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Sep 16, 2021 14:43
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Yeah, if nothing unusual happens, most people default to commending the tank or healer. You can also get some as a dancer by partnering with people, or by giving advice on mechanics, or just being chatty in alliance raids. Or sometimes you get showered with comms because everyone else in your party was grouped up before queueing. One time I did alliance roulette with six FC friends, and we gave the random bard that filled the last spot seven comms.
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That's why I always just commend a random DPS player unless I notice something real good or someone is explaining boss mechanics, in which case they get it
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Sep 16, 2021 16:28
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If you really want comms, name your character Literally Yourdad and then be a healer on top of it. It's like cheating.
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my best source of comms is saying "gg" at the end of Frontlines (even if it very much was not a gg)
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Sep 16, 2021 16:33
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The Gunslinger posted:Finally I am in the home stretch, doing patch 2.55 over the next few days then I can finally check out the jobs I'm interested in! Super excited to try RDM, GNB, DRK and the rest. White Mage was fast to level thanks instant queues for roulettes. I also racked up over 200 player commendations already, even for instances where I objectively caused a wipe. I really feel bad for DPS players, it seems like people just automatically commend the healer/tank. Glad you persevered, it's definitely a bit of a slog. And getting a bunch of new jobs to play with is a great reward.
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Sep 16, 2021 18:06
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The secret to getting player commendations is going afk for 2 minutes after you kill the final boss of a dungeon because most veteran players just immediately run for the exit portal so you are the only person left to get a commendation from fellow scrubs.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:10
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I haven't been getting any commendations lately despite playing healer. I guess the other healers and tanks are just better than me. 
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Sep 16, 2021 19:54
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Alxprit posted:I haven't been getting any commendations lately despite playing healer. I guess the other healers and tanks are just better than me. It is absolutely completely random. I also find sprouts are actually more likely to give them then veterans/mentors who seem to forget the system exists.
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Pwnstar posted:The secret to getting player commendations is going afk for 2 minutes after you kill the final boss of a dungeon because most veteran players just immediately run for the exit portal so you are the only person left to get a commendation from fellow scrubs. This is a valid tactic. Alxprit posted:I haven't been getting any commendations lately despite playing healer. I guess the other healers and tanks are just better than me. Cheer up! A lot of people just make a beeline for the exit without bringing up the commendation window at all, so I wouldn't take it as an indictment on your performance or anything. Keep at it, and I'm sure you'll get plenty!
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