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Hey c'mon they put it in spoilers, that was very considerate of them And of course the solution isn't as simple as we'd like it to be. Oh well. I guess we have to eat the rich!
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Sep 16, 2021 07:01
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ronya posted:[*]there aren't actually a lot of second homes outside of seaside communities, and the interests of those communities diverge sharply anyway: if they don't want rich old British retirees white as the driven snow moving in, do you think they want low-income or refugees? The second home owners probably don't, but the people in those communities who are angry about second homes absolutely do want low-income people to get houses, and keep them. Because that would be us.
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Sep 16, 2021 08:10
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It's a shifting talking point isn't it. 'Lets build millions of new homes' = 'Thats a foolish use of money we had enough homes we just need to use the the current stock better' 'Ok lets use the existing stock' = 'this is stupid it's all in the wrong place and the locals won't like it and the owners have rights' 'lets do nothing then'
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Sep 16, 2021 09:02
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Sep 16, 2021 09:03
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JoylessJester posted:
Yeah, the people who counter every single proposal to reform the housing market with a: "Yes, but..." are usually the people who happen do be doing very nicely out of the current system and don't actually want anything about that to change.
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Sep 16, 2021 09:19
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"Jordan Tyldesley is a fake alt-right name" - Tilo Cinnabon
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Sep 16, 2021 09:24
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Jordan Tyldesley's mother's biggest mistake: not having the abortion. It should come as no surprise to anyone that Tyldesley is a massive TERF, by the way.
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Sep 16, 2021 09:26
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Once you start having bad opinions you might as well collect the set.
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Sep 16, 2021 09:27
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Is there a wealth of empty homes sitting around pristine and unused? No, except maybe some bits of central London or Cornwall Is homelessness a government choice that could be removed if we put effort into it? Yes, as shown at the beginning of the pandemic. While that was often hotel rooms rather than full houses, it still shows that homelessness is a choice, not a nessesity. (there are further issues that come with this, but not unsolvable ones.)
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Sep 16, 2021 09:29
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Is there a wealth of empty homes sitting around pristine and unused? No, except maybe some bits of central London or Cornwall You're confusing homelessness with rough sleeping - obviously the latter is a subset of the former and people living on the streets should take highest priority but they're really only a tiny percentage of the total. The vast majority of homeless people have a roof over their head - it's just that roof is leaking, or is in a B&B, or is a single bedroom for 4 kids. The big problem is that once they're off the streets they basically disappear as far as politics is concerned, so nothing ever changes because while the solution - building a shitload of old-fashioned council housing - is actually easy (and surprisingly cheap), the political cost of obliterating the BtL market is far too high.
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Sep 16, 2021 09:55
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Normal country at ease with itself. https://twitter.com/JMPSimor/status/1438253538220646414
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Sep 16, 2021 09:57
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*Dr The Rev Ian Richard Kyle Paisley, Baron Bannside voice* Londonderry Girls  goddamnedtwisto posted:the political cost of obliterating the BtL market is far too high.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:05
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I would settle for obliterating homes under the hammer.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:07
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homes under the hammer and sickle.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:11
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keep punching joe posted:Normal country at ease with itself. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Cockney wide boy, falling through an open bar — forever.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:11
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Guavanaut posted:homes under the hammer and sickle. 
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Sep 16, 2021 10:12
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Possibly controversial take - the early series of only fools and horses before it was just Christmas specials and del boy became a yuppie caricature were actually good and an accurate and sympathetic portrayal of trying to get by in a country that has no interest in helping you Would be very funny if the government commissioned more shows about the misery of living under conservatism because they missed the point and just saw 'british' and 'mostly white faces' the sex ghost fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 10:16
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Any ideas why Marsha de Cordova and Charlotte Nichols have both resigned from the shadow cabinet in the past couple of days?Guavanaut posted:homes under the hammer and sickle. 
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Sep 16, 2021 10:16
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OwlFancier posted:I would settle for obliterating homes under the hammer. That would have to be a very big hammer.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:23
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Nichols is the "traveller incursions" weirdo so I dunno what she would have in common with cordova who afaik is decent?
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Sep 16, 2021 10:30
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I feel newspapers should be required to replace grinning photos of their columnists next to opinion headlines with grotesque caricatures to remind readers that these are not the thoughts of normal human beings
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Sep 16, 2021 10:31
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the sex ghost posted:Possibly controversial take - the early series of only fools and horses before it was just Christmas specials and del boy became a yuppie caricature were actually good and an accurate and sympathetic portrayal of trying to get by in a country that has no interest in helping you I don't know that anyone here hates on OFAH itself, just the 30 years of misty-eyed nostalgic tributes to it. And yeah obviously it went really crap at the end there. And agreed there's a big gap for socialist realist comedies
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Sep 16, 2021 10:31
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Convex posted:I feel newspapers should be required to replace grinning photos of their columnists next to opinion headlines with grotesque caricatures to remind readers that these are not the thoughts of normal human beings This does not seem to stop Toby Young.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:33
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Convex posted:I feel newspapers should be required to replace grinning photos of their columnists next to opinion headlines with grotesque caricatures to remind readers that these are not the thoughts of normal human beings e: ^ and Brainden and Taki and the rest
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Sep 16, 2021 10:36
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I'm more confused by the idea of what would constitute a program made by British TV network in Britain using British actors that is not "distinctively British". They list Fleabag, Gogglebox, Downton Abbey, Bake Off and The Bodyguard. So they're going to make it law that TV companies have to carry on making the same kind of programs they're already making?
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Sep 16, 2021 10:37
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the sex ghost posted:Possibly controversial take - the early series of only fools and horses before it was just Christmas specials and del boy became a yuppie caricature were actually good and an accurate and sympathetic portrayal of trying to get by in a country that has no interest in helping you John Sullivan should have ended the show when Lennard Pearce died. Not because Granddad was a particularly good character - Uncle Albert was actually funnier and could be used to move the plot along in more interesting ways than Granddad - but because by that point the show was already getting stale and the only way of fending that off - bringing in Raquel and Cassandra, having Rodney get a job outside of Del's influence - killed off the stuff that made it not just another sitcom. Also pre-poo poo OFAH was at least vaguely cosmopolitan; it's notable that the Christmas Special era got a lot, lot whiter and the spinoffs chose settings where an all-white cast is much less jarringly unrealistic than a show set in 90s Peckham where the only person darker than Donald Trump was Denzil and even he was mixed-race.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:40
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Regrettably, weird nationalists are not often concerned about factual reality, so there is nothing saying it has to make any sense.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:40
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Guavanaut posted:Counterpoint: The Spectator is still poo poo full of cunts It really is poo poo though. I like to try and get a cross section of views so I took out a £1 trial to The Spectator for a couple of months but it was just so powerfully bad that I couldn't carry it on. Just low effort, badly written and poorly sourced shite.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:41
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I stopped looking for a cross section of views when I came the the conclusion that most people seem to have the camera lodged up their own arseholes and the view is not generally very good.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:44
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OwlFancier posted:This does not seem to stop Toby Young. Counterpoint: almost everyone in the entire world knows Toby Young is an insufferable oval office
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Sep 16, 2021 10:44
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The real UK gold sitcom debate is whether the good life is praxis or actually just PMC suburban bores playing make believe. Also whether they were wife swapping with the neighbours (definitely were)
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Sep 16, 2021 10:47
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Red Oktober posted:It really is poo poo though. I like to try and get a cross section of views so I took out a £1 trial to The Spectator for a couple of months but it was just so powerfully bad that I couldn't carry it on. Possibly a frank admission that she's on the side that believes in bollocks that doesn't work, unless she actually thought that through and she's going to fight the culture wars on the queer side by making all boys mandatory gay. She has not thought that, nor anything, through. the sex ghost posted:PMC suburban bores playing make believe.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:53
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the sex ghost posted:The real UK gold sitcom debate is whether the good life is praxis or actually just PMC suburban bores playing make believe. Also whether they were wife swapping with the neighbours (definitely were) I believe that was more of a concern in Love Thy Neighbour.
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Sep 16, 2021 10:59
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keep punching joe posted:Normal country at ease with itself. DON'T MENTION THE WAR RODNEY!
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Sep 16, 2021 11:01
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peanut- posted:I'm more confused by the idea of what would constitute a program made by British TV network in Britain using British actors that is not "distinctively British". They mean full of white people. Edit: I mean if they really wanted to ruffle some feathers they would demand that a certain percentage of the films shown in cinemas in Britain show films filmed and made by British production companies and British distributors and give them massive government funding like they do in France but that would undermine the way money is already made and it might let a new Ken Loach appear so gently caress that poo poo, lets just do some dogwhistles about white people on the TV. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 11:06
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OFAH was good enough for another season or two after Uncle Albert came in, but if it was a choice of everything we got or stopping after season three then it definitely should have come to an end earlier. Rodney was the biggest issue, they just didn't know what to do with him as he got older. He got severely Flanderised as it went on, remaining the same naive child but older and moodier, and Cassandra was a bland, flavourless paste of a character and I have no idea why they persisted with her or thought she was a good counterpart to Rodney.
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Sep 16, 2021 11:09
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the sex ghost posted:The real UK gold sitcom debate is whether the good life is praxis or actually just PMC suburban bores playing make believe. Also whether they were wife swapping with the neighbours (definitely were) Luckily someone has already covered my feelings on the matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu44FTsE90Q which does actually bring up a good point - when was the last TV show (or popular media generally) where the police were the bad guys? I feel like it was around 1997 and I don't feel like that's a coincidence.
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Sep 16, 2021 11:11
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https://twitter.com/demarionunn/status/1438435866209312768?s=19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
Weren't people in this very thread claiming that Line Of Duty was brave for showing bent coppers, when in reality it's some of the most blatant copaganda in years lol
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