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That was definitely a change for the better. I think the less rigid powerset works a lot better, and certainly the armband style made for way better fight scenes
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Retro Futurist posted:That was definitely a change for the better. I think the less rigid powerset works a lot better, and certainly the armband style made for way better fight scenes The link to actual Chinese martial arts and history makes it a perfect change. I do agree they'd have been a little too much like the Gauntlet in their original form, even if they came firtst historically.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:10
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Rhyno posted:The link to actual Chinese martial arts and history makes it a perfect change. I do agree they'd have been a little too much like the Gauntlet in their original form, even if they came firtst historically. Plus they don't fit being something Shang-Chi acquires not quite sure if that's a spoiler, but don't want to accidently post one for a new movie that's only in theaters while there's still a pandemic going on.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:40
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I’m reading Lost Girls after buying it in 2006 or whenever it came out, and the art is extremely good. Melinda Gebbie is an incredible artist with a lot of range. It’s a shame it’s all stupid pornography. Did she ever draw anything else?
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Sep 8, 2021 04:39
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I’m reading Lost Girls after buying it in 2006 or whenever it came out, and the art is extremely good. Melinda Gebbie is an incredible artist with a lot of range. It’s a shame it’s all stupid pornography. Did she ever draw anything else?
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I've been reading back issues for the last few years and enjoying it so haven't read anything new in quite a while. Somehow I wound up reading a review of The trial of Magneto #2 and it says Wanda isn't a mutant. How long has the been going on? Is Quicksilver still a mutant?
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Sep 15, 2021 17:49
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bessantj posted:I've been reading back issues for the last few years and enjoying it so haven't read anything new in quite a while. Somehow I wound up reading a review of The trial of Magneto #2 and it says Wanda isn't a mutant. How long has the been going on? Is Quicksilver still a mutant? No, they haven't been mutants in years. Basically Remender's Uncanny Avengers undid the retcon of Magneto being their father. It tied it back to the High Evolutionary since that's where their early origins had been tied to Wundagore/Whizzer/Miss America. It was also in the middle of the Fox/Marvel spat over mutants as well.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:56
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I'd say there's about a 50% chance of by the end of Trial of Magneto or sometime early next year Wanda will be alive again and both her and her brother will be mutants. Franklin will be a mutant again like in the first post Dan Slott arc, if Slott doesn't have a plan to make him one again himself
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Sep 15, 2021 18:00
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X-O posted:No, they haven't been mutants in years. Basically Remender's Uncanny Avengers undid the retcon of Magneto being their father. It tied it back to the High Evolutionary since that's where their early origins had been tied to Wundagore/Whizzer/Miss America. It was also in the middle of the Fox/Marvel spat over mutants as well. Ah thanks. Have they ever interacted with Jessica Drew over Wundagore? Skwirl posted:I'd say there's about a 50% chance of by the end of Trial of Magneto or sometime early next year Wanda will be alive again and both her and her brother will be mutants. Franklin isn't a mutant? Man I have missed everything. I'm approaching the 90s fast though so I am about to see some stuff!
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Sep 15, 2021 18:16
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bessantj posted:Ah thanks. Have they ever interacted with Jessica Drew over Wundagore? That one is super recent. In Slott's FF it was revealed Franklin admired the mutants so much he used his reality warping powers to make it appear he was. It was pretty clear at the start of the current X-Men run (started in 2019) there were a lot of plans to involve Franklin, and those all got shat on.
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Skwirl posted:That one is super recent. In Slott's FF it was revealed Franklin admired the mutants so much he used his reality warping powers to make it appear he was. It was pretty clear at the start of the current X-Men run (started in 2019) there were a lot of plans to involve Franklin, and those all got shat on. The only thing I really now about the current X-Men run is that they can some how resurrect any dead mutant, is that right? If it is, is Thunderbird back yet? Oh EDIT: Is Polaris still a mutant, she was different from Wanda/Pietro wasn't she?
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Sep 15, 2021 18:35
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bessantj posted:The only thing I really now about the current X-Men run is that they can some how resurrect any dead mutant, is that right? If it is, is Thunderbird back yet? Yeah, Polaris is still a mutant and still Magneto's daughter. She's also on the main X-Men team.
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bessantj posted:The only thing I really now about the current X-Men run is that they can some how resurrect any dead mutant, is that right? If it is, is Thunderbird back yet? No Thunderbird because he died before Xavier started making mental backups of mutants minds.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:12
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, Polaris is still a mutant and still Magneto's daughter. She's also on the main X-Men team. Is she still going out with Havock? Open Marriage Night posted:No Thunderbird because he died before Xavier started making mental backups of mutants minds. Ah so there is some sort of cut off point to it then. When did he start doing that? Was he going to do some weird experiments? because I wouldn't put it past him. Also I just finished Armor Wars and it got me wondering. I haven't read Civil War in ages but while Stark was all "sign the super hero thing gotta follow the law." did anyone throw his actions during the Armor Wars back in his face because he invaded Russia and attack Russian citizens and that's a big no no.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:17
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bessantj posted:Is she still going out with Havock? It's maybe better to not ask what's up with Havok romantically. It's a been a rocky decade or four. And that's not even counting the time he married The Wasp and moved to another planet to start a new civilization only to be turned into a bad guy by Red Skull using Xavier's stolen brain. Comics!
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Sep 15, 2021 19:21
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X-O posted:It's maybe better to not ask what's up with Havok romantically. It's a been a rocky decade or four. Whom amoung us...
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Sep 15, 2021 19:50
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bessantj posted:Is she still going out with Havock? No exact time on when he started. You should definitely check out House of X and Powers of X on Marvel Unlimited when you have time. It’s one of those super ambitious stories that flips the status quo on its head, but doesn’t feel like a cheat.
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Open Marriage Night posted:No exact time on when he started. You should definitely check out House of X and Powers of X on Marvel Unlimited when you have time. It’s one of those super ambitious stories that flips the status quo on its head, but doesn’t feel like a cheat. Well, it literally is a cheat. But I get what you're saying. It's a cheat that feels at least earned because a lot of thought was put into how to pull it off.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:03
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bessantj posted:Is she still going out with Havock? You're asking the wrong questions. Ask us if Jean Grey is with Cyclops or Wolverine.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:08
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In this version of Shroedinger's Cat we've replaced the box with conjoined Moon bedrooms. Let's see who's with who.
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It's really unclear as to when the "cutoff" is, Changeling (who died in X-Men #42 in 1968) was shown on Krakoa early on, but only in a crowd scene or two. On the other hand, there was a a whole storyline (written by Hickman no less) where Sway and Petra, who were (retconned to be) killed off just a few weeks before Thunderbird died got resurrected by the Five.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:26
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I'm not convinced there *is* a cutoff, since the whole story is predicated on Xavier, Moira, and Magneto conspiring in the background of X-Men comics since before even X-Men #1. I guess you could take the creation of Cerebro, which first appeared in X-Men #7, but having not read that, I don't know if it was invented or just revealed in that (though knowing 60s storytelling, I'm guessing the latter).
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The cut-off is important in some stories but not in others-- see the recent-ish Marauders subplot in which Sebastian Shaw plans on using a time machine (????) to get Lourdes Chantal back. I could buy the Changeling cameos as a mistake but the Petra and Sway issues are a little curious. The obvious answer with most Krakoan stuff is "the Quiet Council is lying to conceal something/Moira's true agenda" but I don't know if that makes much sense w/r/t Thunderbird. I'm hard pressed too think of any good reason they'd want to leave him, specifically, out of the queue.
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I may have missed something, but I don't recall him having been mentioned at all. Did I miss something?
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It was something that got brought up in an X-Men Monday with Jordan D. White a little while ago and then in X-Men #1 his death gets brought up. It's not a huge plot arc or anything, just a curious thing about the resurrection protocols.
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There's also just a giant gently caress que of mutants waiting to be resurrected and maybe Xavier's just being a jerk.
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Skwirl posted:There's also just a giant gently caress que of mutants waiting to be resurrected and maybe Xavier's just being a jerk. 
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Edge & Christian posted:It's really unclear as to when the "cutoff" is, Changeling (who died in X-Men #42 in 1968) was shown on Krakoa early on, but only in a crowd scene or two. drat. Didn’t even think of that.
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Open Marriage Night posted:No exact time on when he started. You should definitely check out House of X and Powers of X on Marvel Unlimited when you have time. It’s one of those super ambitious stories that flips the status quo on its head, but doesn’t feel like a cheat. Are they good? I've seen a few thumbnails on YouTube and headlines about the net people seem pleased with them. Skwirl posted:You're asking the wrong questions. Ask us if Jean Grey is with Cyclops or Wolverine. Surely she's with neither. Which one is she with? It hasn't been that long, in my own reading of back issues, since Cyclops up and dumped Madeline and their son. Frankly he seems more pissed off that she isn't Jean.
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I think at bare minimum there's some heavy "Quiet Council putting their thumb on the scales" for the resurrection queue, Petra and Sway I believe were explicitly brought back to observe/monitor/comfort Vulcan. Even if it's not full-on "we're not resurrecting Destiny, sorry!" or some of the weird hard rules around Madeline Pryor and clones, I could see the Quiet Council just deciding Thunderbird isn't that important. Which is no less inconsiderate, but isn't a direct act of vengeance or sabotage of the Proudstar family, just rude as all hell.
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Sep 15, 2021 23:23
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bessantj posted:Which one is she with? both
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site posted:both The first thruple.
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bessantj posted:Are they good? Very
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bessantj posted:Are they good? I've seen a few thumbnails on YouTube and headlines about the net people seem pleased with them. I'm going to give you the down side: I feel like the revamp simultaneously is retreading a lot of ground we've seen before (separatist mutant island nation) while nothing interesting is being done with the novel elements. It's also completely scatterbrained with its plotting where when I tried to read through the first year of it I found that no single comic had a story contained to just that series. I get the impression that most of the writers involved haven't thought through the consequences of the status quo change; they play with the concept of eternally reviving like a high school philosophy class. And then despite basically dumping continuity out the window with the change up, they immediately fell back into bad X-habits of making the first major storyline a continuity heavy piece where none of the things they were addressing mattered at all (I'm so glad they worked out how Captain Britain's magical piece of the Marvel universe interacts with Mutant Supremacist Island; that was the big question I had remaining). I'm fine with changing everything. I'm not married to the X-Men as they were and they've always been lovely as a metaphor. But when the new status quo hit I went, "Okay, now what? What stories can you tell in this setting that are worth exploring?" and I feel like two years into it and they still haven't answered that. Basically, I think it's got a couple of big ideas that aren't being used well and it feels like it's spinning its wheels but those wheels are spinning in a dozen different books.
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Thank you for your opinions JordanKai, Random Stranger. I'v gotten to the point in Fantastic Four where Thing and Ms. Marvel have been hit with cosmic rays and so Ms Marvel is now She-Thing (her story is weird) and Thing is now an extra pointy monster, his redesign is awful probably the worst I have ever seen, has there been a worse redesign in comic book history?
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bessantj posted:, has there been a worse redesign in comic book history? Kitty Pryde says hello.
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Rhyno posted:Kitty Pryde says hello. Oh forgot about Wasp, doesn't she become insectoid at one point or is that a fever dream I had?
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bessantj posted:Oh forgot about Wasp, doesn't she become insectoid at one point or is that a fever dream I had? Any costume that debuted in THE CROSSING gets a pass just for being a part of the worst crossover in Marvel history.
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One thing about Thunderbird: Sinister gave himself Thunderbird's DNA for some reason, and Sinister is on the Quiet Council. So it might have to do with him just being up to something.
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