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bessantj posted:Thank you for your opinions JordanKai, Random Stranger. Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate, both from the mid-90s.
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bessantj posted:Thank you for your opinions JordanKai, Random Stranger. you're coming up on a truly heinous Invisible Woman costume so you don't even have to look at a different title to find one, get excited
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Karma Tornado posted:you're coming up on a truly heinous Invisible Woman costume so you don't even have to look at a different title to find one, get excited That costume design is still about 70 issues into his future. They're in the depths of the Englehart run which is a fate I'd wish on no one.
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Rhyno posted:Any costume that debuted in THE CROSSING gets a pass just for being a part of the worst crossover in Marvel history. What was so bad about it? Worst Crossover of both the big two or just Marvel? Antifa Turkeesian posted:Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate, both from the mid-90s. Oh, got that to come. Well Dr. Strange anyway. Karma Tornado posted:you're coming up on a truly heinous Invisible Woman costume so you don't even have to look at a different title to find one, get excited I was thinking you meant Malice or something like that and was going to say it wasn't great but better than Grimms redesign. But i see RS has given me something to dread.
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bessantj posted:What was so bad about it? Worst Crossover of both the big two or just Marvel? It's often called the worst crossover, full stop. That said, it's mercifully short compared to some truly awful crossovers I've read. Quick background: the Avengers were dogshit awful at the time. A book that mainly existed on inertia. The Crossing was one of those, "Everything you know is wrong!" storylines that were popular at the time. I read it a few years ago and nothing from it sticks in my head because outside of the big reveals, it doesn't make a lot of sense. There's a door in the Avengers' basement that's really mysterious and characters nobody could ever care about driving the plot. The big thing is that Tony Stark had been working for Kang right from the beginning and now was the time for him to betray everyone. That's how the Wasp gets injured and then fixed up by turning her into a.bug monster. The Avengers take care of their Iron Man problem by getting a teenaged Tony Stark from the past to replace him and the one that people had been reading about for decades gets killed. Then Heroes Reborn happened immediately afterward and everyone just politely forgot that any of it ever happened.
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Oh wow, well not looking forward to that.Random Stranger posted:Then Heroes Reborn happened immediately afterward and everyone just politely forgot that any of it ever happened. I feel that's true of a good chunk of crossovers. EDIT: I have "The Evolutionary War" coming up soon so that's something to look forward to. bessantj fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 15:11
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Rhyno posted:Any costume that debuted in THE CROSSING gets a pass just for being a part of the worst crossover in Marvel history. Remember how before Heroes Reborn that was going to reignite interest in the Avengers?
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Dawgstar posted:Remember how before Heroes Reborn that was going to reignite interest in the Avengers? You and I remember 1995 very differently.
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Sep 16, 2021 15:24
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I guess it's not exactly a redesign since it's a different character taking up the mantle entirely, but Thunderstrike Thor will forever haunt me.
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Sep 16, 2021 15:45
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JordanKai posted:I guess it's not exactly a redesign since it's a different character taking up the mantle entirely, but Thunderstrike Thor will forever haunt me. HOW DARE YOU
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Sep 16, 2021 15:48
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bessantj posted:
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Sep 16, 2021 15:57
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Skwirl posted:This is the Summers house on the moon lol, that is amazing.
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Lobok posted:lol, that is amazing. :format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19290556/RCO025_1570019300.jpg)
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JordanKai posted:I guess it's not exactly a redesign since it's a different character taking up the mantle entirely, but Thunderstrike Thor will forever haunt me. Thunderstrike is fine. Now late '90s Thor? That's where your problems come in. 
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X-O posted:Thunderstrike is fine. Now late '90s Thor? That's where your problems come in. Did they forget to design a lower left leg for him? Also while the mankini top is amazing they did show restraint by not giving him any pouches.
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I don't follow X-Men to know if they've ever "gone there" but I'm thinking about how in so many romance stories in fiction where the man and woman are at odds with each other until it's revealed the tension all along was actually attraction and they end up together and then thinking about Cyke and Wolverine over the years.
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Madkal posted:Did they forget to design a lower left leg for him? Also while the mankini top is amazing they did show restraint by not giving him any pouches.
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Rhyno posted:You and I remember 1995 very differently. Oh, it was going to be THE BIG THING for Avengers but of course did way more harm than good and it's understandable they toss it to the Image boys.
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X-O posted:Thunderstrike is fine. Now late '90s Thor? That's where your problems come in. That isn't even late 90s Thor, he wore that costume in like one comic. And one page of the Crossing.
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JordanKai posted:I guess it's not exactly a redesign since it's a different character taking up the mantle entirely, but Thunderstrike Thor will forever haunt me. I just read the issue of Thor where he appears as an early support character. Skwirl posted:This is the Summers house on the moon Lobok posted:lol, that is amazing.
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Lobok posted:I don't follow X-Men to know if they've ever "gone there" but I'm thinking about how in so many romance stories in fiction where the man and woman are at odds with each other until it's revealed the tension all along was actually attraction and they end up together and then thinking about Cyke and Wolverine over the years. There's an alternate reality Logan that's married to Hercules. But so far in X-Men I think it's more strongly implied that both Scott and Logan are with Jean and just friends with each other. Aside from the apartment diagram there's hasn't been anything explicit about Jean and Logan actually hooking up though. A Cyke/Wolverine make-out scene would be pretty cool, if only for how much it would freak the gently caress out of the comicsgate people.
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"Gamers took to the internet today to express their outrage over Insomniac's new Wolverine game that featured a cutscene between Wolverine and long-time frenemy Cyclops that prompted players with a QTE to make the two characters passionately make out. Frustrated with the Freudian implications of 'accidentally' pressing the button, they swarmed Insomniac's social media feeds and"
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Which one is the top?
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Logan/Scott hot coffee mod for wolverine when
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Rhyno posted:That isn't even late 90s Thor, he wore that costume in like one comic. And one page of the Crossing. Didn't Thor wear that costume in Marvel vs DC/DC vs Marvel ?
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maltesh posted:Didn't Thor wear that costume in Marvel vs DC/DC vs Marvel ? I guess, but like that even counts!
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A Brief History of Thor in the 1990s: 1991: Eric Masterson becomes Thor with a half-mask half-helmet and other minor cosmetic changes to make him a HERO FOR THE NINETIES 1993: Thor Odinson returns and has his classic outfit, but Eric becomes Thunderstrike, a HERO FOR THE NINETIES 1994: Thor joins "The Godpack" to work with High Evolutionary, and gets a cool new armored costume to truly show that he is a HERO FOR THE NINETIES 1995: Thunderstrike dies and his book is canceled, proving that Thor Odinson is the real HERO FOR THE NINETIES Also 1995: To really show that he is a HERO FOR THE NINETIES, Thor gets a revamp from Warren Ellis, which shifts the focus to a hardboiled British bastard chainsmoking in a trenchcoat who is trying to figure out what's going on with Thor. Short answer: he's been banging the Enchantress, has decided he should stop talking dumb and stop wearing his dumb outfit. He just starts walking around shirtless/helmetless and using NINETIES colloquialisms. Also 1995: Post-Ellis, Thor gets a costume with CHAINS and an AB-WINDOW courtesy of Mike Deodato Jr. as part of the Crossing event, except while he's shown in the costume in various promotional art and covers, he's just in his old shirtless outfit for 99% of the crossover. 1996: The cool chain costume eventually appears officially for the first time in Marvel vs. DC. After that it appears in a couple of guest appearances and in the final issue of Thor before he sacrifices himself in the Onslaught crossover, where he appears in the previous shirtless costume. Also 1996: Rob Liefeld redesigns the Avengers, including Thor, for Heroes Reborn, finally making him a HERO FOR THE NINETIES! 1998: Thor comes back in Heroes Return, looking pretty much exactly like he did in the 1980s. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Skwirl posted:There's an alternate reality Logan that's married to Hercules. But so far in X-Men I think it's more strongly implied that both Scott and Logan are with Jean and just friends with each other. Aside from the apartment diagram there's hasn't been anything explicit about Jean and Logan actually hooking up though. There’s an issue of X-Force that ends with Jean and Logan loving in a hot tub.
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Open Marriage Night posted:There’s an issue of X-Force that ends with Jean and Logan loving in a hot tub. Oh yeah. Needs to have something with a call back to that, but it's Wolves/Cyke in the tup.
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Skwirl posted:Oh yeah. Needs to have something with a call back to that, but it's Wolves/Cyke in the tup. Not particularly worksafe
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Lobok posted:"Gamers took to the internet today to express their outrage over Insomniac's new Wolverine game that featured a cutscene between Wolverine and long-time frenemy Cyclops that prompted players with a QTE to make the two characters passionately make out. Frustrated with the Freudian implications of 'accidentally' pressing the button, they swarmed Insomniac's social media feeds and" More controversial than the white phosphorous QTE in Spec Ops.
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Edge & Christian posted:Not really what you were thinking or what anyone sane would actually want, but Mark Millar did write a Wolverine/Cyclops hot tub scene in Youngblood: Bloodsport it's wild that that scene isn't even the worst thing in that book, because that book also has, if I remember right, a two page spread of Shaft riding a jetpack-wearing zombie MLK Jr
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Masterpiece of an explanation but...Edge & Christian posted:Also 1996: Rob Liefeld redesigns the Avengers, including Thor, for Heroes Reborn, finally making him a HERO FOR THE NINETIES! What's wrong with Thor's face?!?!?!
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bessantj posted:What's wrong with Thor's face?!?!?!
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The best thing about the crossing was it lead to avengers forever in which it said everything from that poo poo was space phantoms. Avengers forever is so so good and it’s a shame songbird ain’t in anything.
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Karma Tornado posted:it's wild that that scene isn't even the worst thing in that book, because that book also has, if I remember right, a two page spread of Shaft riding a jetpack-wearing zombie MLK Jr Can somebody please give me a rundown of whatever the gently caress is going on here? Is this a joke I’m not getting? Was Youngblood part of Marvel at the time somehow? How’d they not get sued for copyright infringement or, I dunno literal character defamation? I mean gently caress the Marvel poo poo, MLK Jr’s family is extremely loving protective of his likeness. Please help, I DO NOT want to google this poo poo.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Can somebody please give me a rundown of whatever the gently caress is going on here? Is this a joke I’m not getting? Was Youngblood part of Marvel at the time somehow? How’d they not get sued for copyright infringement or, I dunno literal character defamation? I mean gently caress the Marvel poo poo, MLK Jr’s family is extremely loving protective of his likeness. Please help, I DO NOT want to google this poo poo. Shaft is technically one of the only heroes still trying to be a hero, but he's worn down and cussing a lot and fighting The Legion of Evil, who turned all of the "Sixties Civil Rights Movement" leaders (Malcolm X, MLK, Elijah Muhammad, other people who maybe are real figures or just random black people in suits, Liefeld is not great at likenesses) into zombies who are trying to steal They never published anything past the first issue because Rob Liefeld is not good at finishing projects.
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I completely forgot about Millar's dire run on The Authority until now. How could you do this to me?
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