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Yeah, once you get to a good CP level, you don't need to group most times and can kill WBs and clear dungeons solo. It's kind of too bad, but also nice in some situations. A decent guild is a good solution to that, though. The flip side to that coin is when people complain loudly when you're in the area going about your own business. I was questing in Coldharbor and killed a quest objective 30 seconds before someone else showed up and in zone chat he goes "DON'T YOU LOVE IT WHEN SOMEONE RANDOMLY HAPPENS ON YOUR QUEST BOSS AND KILLS THEM SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT 15 MINUTES FOR IT TO RESPAWN?" It's like, are you so self-centered that you can't comprehend someone might be on the same quest as you? 
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Yeah, world bosses are a fun solo challenge now that I have decent set of gear. Edit: Not sure I would want the entire game to be like that, but a difficulty scaler would be cool if there was some way to do it without splitting the player base. Although I hear the dlc content is harder? Also, I would join a guild but I have some pretty heavy real-life commitments at the moment and prefer to totally switch off the brain when I have spare time. So I knew what I was signing up for in this weird solo MMO 
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Sep 16, 2021 18:46
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:There needs to be a hard mode for questing and public dungeons. Not sure how it would work without instancing everything, but it would be awesome. voluntary x3 or x4 damage taken modifier?
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Sep 16, 2021 20:37
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the combat in this game is kinda bad but also way better than every other elder scrolls game so its a wash
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Might give it a shot then. Sub optional just means I have to buy the game and DLCs and I can play it whenever, right?
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Thumbtacks posted:Might give it a shot then. Sub optional just means I have to buy the game and DLCs and I can play it whenever, right? There's also an infinite bag for crafting ingredients while your sub is active, which is very convenient but not essential (I wouldn't play without it but I'm lazy). There's also a fair few DLC to buy, which makes the sub somewhat worthwhile, you get cash shop currency for it too, which you can either sell for ingame money or use to buy the odd house or whatever. If you're extra-not  you only need to buy the base game, I think someone ITT did that and just bought everything with ingame money, but it's a serious time investment.
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Private Speech posted:
That’s cool, I wish I had the patience for poo poo like that, reminds me of the person who played wow naked Wait I mean with no armor, I’m the one who played naked 
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Sep 16, 2021 22:50
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Even the base game alone, if you go through all three factions, is hundreds of hours. Although I'd recommend just paying $15 To go to more spots and for craft bag.
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Thumbtacks posted:Might give it a shot then. Sub optional just means I have to buy the game and DLCs and I can play it whenever, right? Any DLC/expansions you own you can play without a sub. The sub gives access to all of them except the latest yearly expansion. The sub also increases bank space and adds a craft bag for mats. There are some other perks, those are the significant ones. Private Speech posted:If you're extra-not Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 23:04
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If you don't play this game for the pvp uninstall
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insane anime posted:If you don't play this game for the pvp uninstall I thought that was supposed to be the worst part Or at least what the op is always mad about
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Snowy posted:I thought that was supposed to be the worst part
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:My impression is that PVPers like the game's PVP but the performance sucks and ZOS keeps messing with the balance (PVEers also complain about this, each blames ZOS catering to the other for it). They have the 3 team fight DAOC siege pvp, but don't seem to do much of anything with it fun or make it worthwhile at all.
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I did PVP for exactly long enough to get the 30% riding speed passive, which involved doing like five tutorial things while I never saw another soul. So, I'm completely undefeated in PVP, I'm basically the king.
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Thumbtacks posted:Might give it a shot then. Sub optional just means I have to buy the game and DLCs and I can play it whenever, right? In addition to all other benefits of subscribing is that you get a decent amount of crowns (Zenimax version of bullshit coins used in cash shop). Even if you don't use them yourself, you can sell them. For selling I heartily recommend you don't go get scammed and lowballed on chat channels. Register for Crown Network or such and you can easily sell your crowns for much higher than what they go for on chat channels. You also get a broker for the trade so you don't get swindled. I sold all my sub crowns off a few weeks back and on CN they went for 1250:1 (-5% for broker). Best you can get on PC/EU atm on chat channels is 1000:1 without broker. e: Just checked CN, it's 1500:1 atm 
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Sep 17, 2021 06:08
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I'll give it a shot, $20 isn't too bad and I don't mind dropping that on it. I'm guessing I can't play the DLC classes or whatever unless I also have that DLC? Kinda dumb that I can either buy the base game or EVERY dlc put together.
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just actually bothered to read the OP, this has the equivalent of WvWvW? buying immediately
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Thumbtacks posted:just actually bothered to read the OP, this has the equivalent of WvWvW? buying immediately Cyroidil and Imperial City are very silly places.
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Thumbtacks posted:I'll give it a shot, $20 isn't too bad and I don't mind dropping that on it. I'm guessing I can't play the DLC classes or whatever unless I also have that DLC? Kinda dumb that I can either buy the base game or EVERY dlc put together. Also LOL no. Buying Blackwood gets you the chapters: Summerset, Elsewyr, Skyrim, Blackwood. There's like a dozen other DLC zones, and another dozen dungeon DLCs. Those can only be bought in the crown store (or gotten with the sub).
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On the advice of the OP i have started reading alcasthq's guides and I didn't realize there were ability and spell setups for every class, the idea that sorcerers can use bows is pretty funny. warden immediately stands out as the coolest option so i might explore that first
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Tbh don't bother with Alcast's copypaste builds unless you're at endgame and want some ideas on how to minmax your builds. Everything is viable for overworld content so just go with whatever weaponry and such you like. Only thing to note is that you'll want to decide early do you want to go with stamina, magicka or hybrid and pick your character race accordingly. If you make a breton char and decide you wanna do bow/dual wield (stamina) dps after all then it's  time.You can respec your attributes, cp and skills for a small amount of gold but a race change costs a good amount of crowns.
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I mostly look at builds for thematic things, like the Selene's set that gives you a ghost bear to go with warden's actual bear
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kirbysuperstar posted:I mostly look at builds for thematic things, like the Selene's set that gives you a ghost bear to go with warden's actual bear I have no idea what that means but i like summoning animals to beat people up and warden seems to do that so i'm just gonna go warden. i have no idea what the difference between stamina and magicka dps is, i'm assumingi t's one uses weapons and one uses spells more but they seem to both work differently so idk what gameplay differences would look like
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Basically gear is mostly horizontal and revolves around set bonuses, soquote:(1 item) Adds 1096 Max Stamina As for Stam/Magicka..uh..how to explain it..a lot of Class skill morphs (an upgrade when a skill hits rank v) will give you the option of running off one or the other, with different effects and you pair that with your weapon of choice - staves go off magicka, 2h/1h/bow use stamina - as well as what rank of armour (light for magicka dps/heal, medium for stamina dps, heavy for tank).
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kirbysuperstar posted:Basically gear is mostly horizontal and revolves around set bonuses, so oh, neat. i can probably just answer these questions by playing the game but i'm not home rn so i'll have to ask here, sorry. so is it like each class has its own bow/swords/staff abilities (like gw2, i guess) or there's the basic ability set for bow/sword/staff taht everyone has and then abilities on top of it
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Thumbtacks posted:so is it like each class has its own bow/swords/staff abilities (like gw2, i guess) or there's the basic ability set for bow/sword/staff taht everyone has and then abilities on top of it Every ability has a base of power, then after you level it up you can spend a second ability point to morph it. Those morphs often, though not always, have one stam and one mag morph each adding a slightly different focus to the base ability. There are a few morphs that are totally different from the base, but that's the general concept. Everyone can have all the weapon and guild abilities if they want and have the skill points. You can only use the 5/10 that you slot at any given time, though. The weapon abilities can only be used while you weild that weapon type.
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I kinda accidentally fell into magicka night blade and it’s really goofy how all my stabbin skills scale off of magic. Fun though, and gearing for crit chance on nightblade is hilarious because most of my attacks heal and they crit ALL the time so I am bizarrely tanky for a melee caster in light armpit. E: phoneposting, keeping that typo in
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Thumbtacks posted:oh, neat. i can probably just answer these questions by playing the game but i'm not home rn so i'll have to ask here, sorry. As Anarchy said, you get a base skill that does X, and when you rank it up enough by having something from that trait line equipped when you earn XP, eventually you get to morph that skill into a more advanced version. Typically, this takes the format of Base: Skill costs magicka, does X; Morph 1: Skill costs magicka, does X and Y; Morph 2: Skill costs stamina, does X and Z. This can be pretty confusing starting out because you think "oh this costs Magicka, so I should raise that stat", when a little while later it can morph into a stamina skill and you should have been levelling that instead. Conversely, sometimes you'll come across a skill that has the options of morphing into Magicka, or More Magicka. As much as it sucks wiki-ing before you play a game, I do recommend taking 10 minutes to look up what your skills morph into, because while it's easy and relatively cheap to respec, you don't get the opportunity until your second "real" zone out of the tutorial zones, and finding out that you basically stuffed yourself early is a pain in the rear end. In terms of comparison to GW2, you don't get class-specific skills depending on the weapon you use. It's the other way around, where you get class-specific abilities, and you also get a skill line based on the weapon. So the more you use a 2h weapon, the more of the skill line you unlock, but the abilities are generic across all classes. They all still get a morph, but which more you pick for that skill line will align with what that weapon does. E.g. for 2H, once you level it up enough, you get a skill that does bonus Execute damage to targets under 50% HP. When you get to the morph choice, you can pick if you want more execute damage, or if you want the damage to hit nearby targets. Either way, the skill still costs Stamina because it's a melee weapon, it just changes the way that stamina is spent. Edit: When you start playing, the game will advise "suggested" skills for you, and then yell at you if you choose the wrong morph. What this actually is is a "suggested build" system, and is advising you based on the newbie build the devs have in mind (usually Magicka based). You can interact with that menu, and select from a number of suggested builds, or conversely you can select the option for the suggestions to gently caress off forever and not have to deal with being skill-selection-shamed by a computer game. Brain In A Jar fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:I kinda accidentally fell into magicka night blade and it’s really goofy how all my stabbin skills scale off of magic. magicka night blade was the first class i stuck with, it has the unique utility of being able to convert mana into "i'm invisible now leave me alone" which is great for zooming around solo
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Sprinting while using full medium armour and using Bird of Prey makes me feel like the guy in the "welcome to morrowind" gif
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:My impression is that PVPers like the game's PVP but the performance sucks and ZOS keeps messing with the balance (PVEers also complain about this, each blames ZOS catering to the other for it). I am convinced that people who try to get others to do ESO PvP are the same people who try to trick someone into eating laxatives instead of chocolate. Thumbtacks posted:warden immediately stands out as the coolest option so i might explore that first The best choice.  Fewd posted:Tbh don't bother with Alcast's copypaste builds unless you're at endgame and want some ideas on how to minmax your builds. I find that Allcasts' analyses on armor and skills is very good. But yeah, just read to get a feel for the way they work together and then make your own build. kirbysuperstar posted:Sprinting while using full medium armour and using Bird of Prey makes me feel like the guy in the "welcome to morrowind" gif Roll a Bosmer Warden. Max out Speed CP buffs. Use skills like Bird of Prey. It's pretty silly - the running animation can't keep up with your speed and you launch off every staircase like Wyle E Coyote and take damage when you land.
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I do this with a bow/bow dps It's ridiculously fun, sustain is almost infinite, but also if you ever stop moving in combat you will die. 11/10
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Pretty big news on patch 32 on the stream. My words: - Uncollected skyshards will start showing on map / compass, except I think they said it's just when you get close? - Like how the active dragon shows on your map, that'll start happening for all incursion things (dolmens, etc, I assume they meant world boss too?) - Boss drops will pick from what you haven't collected yet from sticker sets! This doesn't change boss drop rules though - so if a boss only drops 3 items, it'll still only give you those 3 until you got all 3. - Once you have everything that boss can drop, it's back to normal RNG - Treasure chests, regular mobs, etc will all still be completely random Basically farming for that certain weapon or whatever is gonna be insanely much easier. Huge news. Edit: Armory added to the game, save gear sets and skill loadout. Aka, Dressing Room addon. Need a furnishing (but it's free). Also swaps CPs for free, skill points for free, swaps your curses, quickslots. Fancy. xZAOx fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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This is all really, really good news for us filthy casuals.
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xZAOx posted:- Uncollected skyshards will start showing on map / compass, except I think they said it's just when you get close? quote:Edit: Armory added to the game, save gear sets and skill loadout. Aka, Dressing Room addon. Need a furnishing (but it's free). Also swaps CPs for free, skill points for free, swaps your curses, quickslots. Fancy. extra slots for crowns (per character), and also a new assistant to do this in the world. It'd really be best if it had 4 builds for free, or extra slots per account rather than per character. Also supposedly they're going to make hybrid more viable by changing set bonuses across the board. The item drop thing from dungeons is really nice and the highlight for me.
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insane anime posted:If you don't play this game for the pvp uninstall Imagine thinking that the current state of PVP in ESO is in a good place. Check out the big brains here.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Yeah it's really cool, but only 2 builds for free.
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okay i'm loving around with warden now, not sure what weapons i'll end up using. I kind of feel like i'm incentivized to immediately pick a weapon class and stick with it since i have to unlock weapon skills and stuff, that might change when i can swap weapons but idk. for now i'm just sticking with bow since there's immediate synergy with Dive, but i'll experiment a bit later. i'm not sure what armor class to use either, i have a suspicion medium armor will do more damage but heavy will mean i'm not vaporized if i get hit by something so i guess i'll go with medium for now until i start getting murdered by things
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Thumbtacks posted:okay i'm loving around with warden now, not sure what weapons i'll end up using. I kind of feel like i'm incentivized to immediately pick a weapon class and stick with it since i have to unlock weapon skills and stuff, that might change when i can swap weapons but idk. for now i'm just sticking with bow since there's immediate synergy with Dive, but i'll experiment a bit later. i'm not sure what armor class to use either, i have a suspicion medium armor will do more damage but heavy will mean i'm not vaporized if i get hit by something so i guess i'll go with medium for now until i start getting murdered by things For armor, go heavy chest+legs+helm, med boot+glove, light waist+shoulder for now. Heavy is unequivocally better until you start unlocking passives. Med is probably best long term for DPS but doing a few of each to start lets you level them all up as you level up. A lot of people go heavy chest even if the rest is med or light.
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